markjazzbassist Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 Less than a week away now from this League match, must win if you ask me. Relegation team will be fighting but it's a home match, we should get all 3 points. Strongest 11 we have available for me. Really don't want to see Ossie or Pienaar in there on the left while Kev is injured. A loss here could really hurt confidence which is already low and put us in the relegation fight. I predict a 2-2 draw. Robles Coleman Jags Mori Baines McCarthy Barry Gerry Barkley Lennon Lukaku Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 Less than a week away now from this League match, must win if you ask me. Relegation team will be fighting but it's a home match, we should get all 3 points. Strongest 11 we have available for me. Really don't want to see Ossie or Pienaar in there on the left while Kev is injured. A loss here could really hurt confidence which is already low and put us in the relegation fight. I predict a 2-2 draw. Robles Coleman Jags Mori Baines McCarthy Barry Gerry Barkley Lennon Lukaku Think we all take that as a given when you start a match day thread mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 We have to create momentum now. Hit them hard and fast and another clean sheet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted February 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 Think we all take that as a given when you start a match day thread mate Lol good point. With the recent results a proper win in the league would help us get some confidence back. Robles Coleman jags Mori baines McCarthy Barry Gerry Barkley Lennon Lukaku Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elston Gunnn Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 I'll be curious to see whether RM rotates Jagielka, Funes Mori, and Stones just a little the rest of the season. Can Jagielka play 3 in 7 days? Maybe so, if he expended relatively little energy yesterday. Does Funes Mori stay ahead of Stones for Newcastle? I assume at some point, maybe immediately, the regular CH pairing is Jagielka and Stones. But the Stones "situation" (?) is a little odd right now. Is Cleverley one of RM's essentials, and so play somewhere every match he's healthy? Will Barkley start every match, rested only occasionally at 70-80 minutes? Did McCarthy pick up enough of a nick yesterday to stay out against Newcastle? Hope to see Lennon staying exclusively on the right, sharing time with regular starter Deulofeu. Lennon starting when fixtures get crowded and subbing most matches at ~ 70 minutes. At LW, I prefer to see Oviedo starting against Newcastle. Like to see him sharing time on left with Mirallas the rest of the season. Mirallas first choice there. Forget Kone, Osman, Cleverley out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue 250 Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 We have to create momentum now. Hit them hard and fast and another clean sheet. If we could keep clean sheets we'd be top 4, it isn't just going to suddenly happen. Can't see Newcastle beating us, mind you I couldn't imagine Swansea doing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 If we could keep clean sheets we'd be top 4, it isn't just going to suddenly happen. Can't see Newcastle beating us, mind you I couldn't imagine Swansea doing it. That's what makes it so frustrating. Knowing that all we need to do is defend and we're suddenly a different team. We can hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 Newcastle have a breath of fresh air going into this game with a newly reinforced squad. If I'm totally honest I can see Everton losing this one. As mark said it's a must win, this is the point we need to turn our season around and push for Europe. Howard Coleman Stones Mori Baines Cleverly Barry Gerry Barkley Lennon Rom I don't think Jags can play so many games in such a short amount of time. This is the team I'd like to see out, however I can see Lennon starting on the left and either Kone's or Osman on the right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyblue23 Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 Newcastle have a breath of fresh air going into this game with a newly reinforced squad. If I'm totally honest I can see Everton losing this one. As mark said it's a must win, this is the point we need to turn our season around and push for Europe. Howard Coleman Stones Mori Baines Cleverly Barry Gerry Barkley Lennon Rom I don't think Jags can play so many games in such a short amount of time. This is the team I'd like to see out, however I can see Lennon starting on the left and either Kone's or Osman on the right. Europe's not happening without an FA cup win. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 Europe's not happening without an FA cup win. Bit defeatist, depending on who wins cups we're potentially only five points off it currently. Hopefully our players don't give up as easily as some of the fans . Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 Our run of fixtures till the end of the season is looking good for us if we can just start keeping clean sheets and get a bit of confidence. Especially at home! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeQuince Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 (edited) Did the window slam shut on his fingers? Well, looks like it's Joel time! Edited February 2, 2016 by JoeQuince Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 I have a good feeling about this one. For some reason I like playing against Newcastle. I don't think they have a defense that can withstand our attack and I think webhave a defense easily capable of dealing with there attack. If they can cut out the errors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 Did the window slam shut on his fingers? Well, looks like it's Joel time! He's out for 6 weeks apparently :jump for joy: Pearso and Lowensda 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 Europe's not happening without an FA cup win.ive said it many a time, but there are far too many points left to play for to be writing off our chances already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rusty747 Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 (edited) To get Europe next season via a league position finish, we will need about 64 points minimum. That means we need a minimum of 35 points from the 15 remaining games. Those are title winning figures and, even if we improve substantially, I just can't see us getting that many points from our remaining matches. We would need to win 10, draw 5 and lose none or win 11 draw 2 and lose 2. Edited February 2, 2016 by rusty747 nyblue23 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 To get Europe next season via a league position finish, we will need about 64 points minimum. That means we need a minimum of 35 points from the 15 remaining games. Those are title winning figures and, even if we improve substantially, I just can't see us getting that many points from our remaining matches. We would need to win 10, draw 5 and lose none or win 11 draw 2 and lose 2. Reality is a bitch. nyblue23 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 Reality is a bitch. the reality hasn't happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 the reality hasn't happened. Matt, we're in February and still haven't won 2 league games in a row. It'll be one hell of a spectacular turnaround in form for us to make Europe, and there has been no sign of that turnaround happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 To get Europe next season via a league position finish, we will need about 64 points minimum. That means we need a minimum of 35 points from the 15 remaining games. Those are title winning figures and, even if we improve substantially, I just can't see us getting that many points from our remaining matches. We would need to win 10, draw 5 and lose none or win 11 draw 2 and lose 2. All depends on who wins the cups and how many points top teams take off each other. Said it before but Europe potentially goes down to seventh place so we're possibly only five points off it; far too early to give up on it. If we were in second place five points off the lead would you say the title was gone? Last season Southampton qualified with sixty. When we qualified for Champs League in 04/05 (with 61 points) Liverpool (58), Bolton (58) and Boro (55) all qualified behind us. Between then and now teams have qualified with as few as 56 (Bolton 06/07) and 53 (Fulham 08/09). Before that Newcastle (56 03/04), Blackburn (60 02/03) and Chelsea (61 00/01). Certain there would be more examples if I went back further. Long way to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 To get Europe next season via a league position finish, we will need about 64 points minimum. That means we need a minimum of 35 points from the 15 remaining games. Those are title winning figures and, even if we improve substantially, I just can't see us getting that many points from our remaining matches. We would need to win 10, draw 5 and lose none or win 11 draw 2 and lose 2. Not many teams are gonna finish top six it seems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 Not many teams are gonna finish top six it seems. Six will. London Blue, markjazzbassist and Lowensda 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rusty747 Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 (edited) Top six, not necessarily in order, Leicester, Arsenal, Spurs, Man C, Man U, West Ham or Liverpool. We are currently 7 points behind West Ham who are sixth. As much as I would like to think we can catch them, I just cant see it happening. Best I can see us doing from the remaining 15 games is win 8, draw 4, lose 3 and thats looking through very rose tinted glasses. That would give us 56 points and I just can't see that being enough. Obviously we must try for as high a league position as possible but I really think our best route to Europe is via the FA Cup ...... unless there is a place for fair play again. How many red cards this season? Edited February 2, 2016 by rusty747 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnh Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 Apparently, someone passed the coffee pot to Howard and he dropped it on his foot. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 (edited) Matt, we're in February and still haven't won 2 league games in a row. It'll be one hell of a spectacular turnaround in form for us to make Europe, and there has been no sign of that turnaround happening.and there is Febuary, March and April to play for, typically when we are at our best. 7 point gap at this stage is nothing. I know my optimism can be annoying but honestly I feel I'm just being realistic. Alternatively, I can be as miserable as some of you lot or look at the points possible to win. Potentially avoid misery all together, or at least be miserable at the end of the season instead. No brainer for me Edited February 2, 2016 by Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 and there is Febuary, March and April to play for, typically when we are at our best. 7 point gap at this stage is nothing. I know my optimism can be annoying but honestly I feel I'm just being realistic. Alternatively, I can be as miserable as some of you lot or look at the points possible to win. Potentially avoid misery all together, or at least be miserable at the end of the season instead. No brainer for me Whilst not impossible those points are also available to every other team. 7 points is a a big gap IMO. If we can't go down we surely can't finish 6th? nyblue23, markjazzbassist and Romey 1878 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 (edited) and there is Febuary, March and April to play for, typically when we are at our best. 7 point gap at this stage is nothing. I know my optimism can be annoying but honestly I feel I'm just being realistic. Alternatively, I can be as miserable as some of you lot or look at the points possible to win. Potentially avoid misery all together, or at least be miserable at the end of the season instead. No brainer for me We need the positivity/optimism to balance things out. Can't believe you've just spelt February wrong though. As crumbly as Swiss cheese you are. Edit - your positivity isn't annoying, what's annoying is that you were saying the same things last season and we finished nowhere then too! You'll keep saying the same thing if we finish the season nowhere again, start next season the same... Rinse, repeat! Edited February 2, 2016 by Romey 1878 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyblue23 Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 and there is Febuary, March and April to play for, typically when we are at our best. 7 point gap at this stage is nothing. I know my optimism can be annoying but honestly I feel I'm just being realistic. Alternatively, I can be as miserable as some of you lot or look at the points possible to win. Potentially avoid misery all together, or at least be miserable at the end of the season instead. No brainer for me If we're to have any chance at all, we can't drop more than two points the whole month of February. That means wins against Newcastle, away at Stoke and home to West Brom. Then I'll be convinced we have a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 Whilst not impossible those points are also available to every other team. 7 points is a a big gap IMO. If we can't go down we surely can't finish 6th? didn't say it would be easy, but it's certainly possible We need the positivity/optimism to balance things out. Can't believe you've just spelt February wrong though. As crumbly as Swiss cheese you are. Edit - your positivity isn't annoying, what's annoying is that you were saying the same things last season and we finished nowhere then too! You'll keep saying the same thing if we finish the season nowhere again, start next season the same... Rinse, repeat! actually, this time last season I had pretty much given up and came round to the idea of getting rid of Roberto, briefly. That was down to the dire football more that's the results. When we finally tightened up and ground out some results I was more optimistic again . This season, we've addressed an awful lot and improved in many ways - there is only 1 point to address instead of 3-4 points. And I'm on the iPad, February wasn't corrected because I put in the capital (thus the word is ignored) If we're to have any chance at all, we can't drop more than two points the whole month of February. That means wins against Newcastle, away at Stoke and home to West Brom. Then I'll be convinced we have a chance.All of which should be winnable. Stoke are doing well this season, granted, but we should still win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 I'm more concerned that we are only 6 points above the drop zone markjazzbassist, Lowensda and MikeO 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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