London Blue Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 I would imagine that the deal has already been worked out prior to the work permit being applied for it may well be a condition of application. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 Its normally: Agree Fee - Work Permit/Documentation - Signing Complete. (SHORT STORY) I think this is a done deal to be honest. Like ive said previously, I'm sure that the same thing happened with Manny and Mikel before they signed! They're both european citizens, they didn't need work permits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 They're both european citizens, they didn't need work permits. I think he was refering to the respective Spanish clubs denying anything was going on as opposed to them needing work permits! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC247 Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/aug/24/everton-sign-lokomotiv-moscow-bilyaletdinov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprooly Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 i think valencia are doing something dodgy here why would moyes say something just going on BKs word doesnt make sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 (edited) http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/aug/24/everton-sign-lokomotiv-moscow-bilyaletdinov This is the interesting read (in bold) due to Steve Round claiming Everton are going to sign players they've been tracking for the last 2 seasons...maybe Ever and Bily, were targets before. Ever may have been a target whilst at Boca? Moyes has received a glowing reference on Bilyaletdinov from Guus Hiddink, the Russia coach and Chelsea's former temporary manager, and tried to bring him to Goodison Park a year ago. The Everton manager also hopes to add Banega to his threadbare squad in the next 48 hours, despite confusion over the Argentinian's proposed move from Valencia. Edited August 24, 2009 by tenaciousj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adpom Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 i think valencia are doing something dodgy here why would moyes say something just going on BKs word doesnt make sense Why would we even bother trying to get him a work permit if there was no truth in it. Is very very strange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigb Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 Why would we even bother trying to get him a work permit if there was no truth in it. Is very very strange. yeah thats what i dont get... Moyes has even commented on this, so we cant say the whole thing is made up, but with valencia and the playerr even denying any involvement with this deal, makes you wonder what is actually going on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DangerMouse Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 yeah thats what i dont get... Moyes has even commented on this, so we cant say the whole thing is made up, but with valencia and the playerr even denying any involvement with this deal, makes you wonder what is actually going on... Spanish clubs allways seem to do this however............... I believe Valencia have got wind of our transfer dealings and are holding out for a better deal.............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 http://www.sport.co.uk/news/Football/25743/Valencia_on_verge_of_signing_former_Arsenal_target.aspx Valencia are apparently in talks with de Guzman, could possibly be Banega's replacement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 http://goal.com/en/news/462/netherlands/2009/08/25/1460098/feyenoords-jonathan-de-guzman-on-valencia-radar-report http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard-sport/football/article-23736649-details/David+Moyes+looking+to+spend+expected+transfer+windfall/article.do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 Spanish clubs allways seem to do this however............... I believe Valencia have got wind of our transfer dealings and are holding out for a better deal.............. Agree with the bold bit, not with the other. I think Valencia dont want to say anything untill they have the replacement all but signed up. If they let Banega go, and not get, in this case De Guzman, its an egg in thier face. You will see Banega at Everton after Valencia have all but wrapped up the De Guzman deal Dont blame them tho. Like we should have done with Lescott! also, another quick note. People saying Banega isnt a typical Everton player...no your right. he's different, unpredictable, very south american...and i love it we need that different type of quality to add balance and give us an unpredictable edge im excited anyway!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 http://www.toffeeweb.com/season/09-10/rumour-mill/index.asp#090826a A bit on Toffeeweb saying he has patched up his differences with Valencia and is staying there , and that Stuttgart have bid 9M Euros for him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anto-EFC Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 (edited) I think he was refering to the respective Spanish clubs denying anything was going on as opposed to them needing work permits! That's what I meant, that the Spanish clubs don't give nothing away. They tend to get a replacement in first and then say that the player is surplus to requirements! I dont think Moyes will have made it up though, theres no smoke without fire (that's rich, i know, coming from an everton transfer forum) but surely there isnt at that level of the club? Your normally lucky to find anything out from the club apart from Ramsey/Naughton we didnt know about Felli/Saha/Nash last year until theyd signed in! Edited August 26, 2009 by Anto-EFC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 Personally I have given up on this deal now its been four days since we got the work permit and he still hasnt flown over. The only thing I can think of is that they want him to play in the second leg of the Europa League game on Thursday night So if he isnt here by Friday its not going to happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calico Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 Agree with ^. I can see this one falling through, sadly. For me, what tenaciousj said about having a different type of player like Banega is entirely correct; remember Manny Fernandes' first time with us? With that in mind I think it is very obvious that these kinds of players always carry a risk of inconsistency and sometimes displaying a lack of hard work so that they look like the games in the Prem are just passing them by - Castillo anyone? - but very often these players are worth the hard work to get them up to speed. The lad was chosen to replace Gago when he went to Real Madrid and is of a long line of Argentinian deep-lying play-makers so if we can get him permanent and then Moyes can get anywhere near the quality of play worth the 18 million Euros Valencia shelled out for him I reckon he would be a very good addition to the squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainFerguson10 Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 We need a strong central midfielder, whether Bangera or somebody else. Time is running out, yet when I see Cana play he was a good price yet would have been ideal. I also have the feeling Bangera isn't coming, it's an issue of money with Valencia and a loan isn't in their interests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 http://www.espnstar.com/football/primera-liga/news/detail/item312948/Valencia-stay-for-Ever/ ESPN say he has turned down a move to Stuttgart and wants to stay at Valencia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehelmet Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 It does seem that the bid from Stuttgart was made earlier though, doesn't it? Or am I assuming to much with the reading order of the article? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wall Writer Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 I really don't understand this at all.... why have they gone and had a work permit for this guys approved, when it looks like they haven't even come to an agreement with Valencia or Banega about him coming here. Something's not right here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted August 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 This looks unlikely to happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 It does seem that the bid from Stuttgart was made earlier though, doesn't it? Or am I assuming to much with the reading order of the article? Stuttgart's bid was accepted after our supposed agreement for him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 But didnt he come out and say the other day he didnt know about the interest in Everton but would be leaving Valencia this window. Seems to get eveen wierder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calico Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 Either way it is yet another wonderfully handled transfer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adpom Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 the daily mail today said, Moyes looking to bring in 4 more players after signing Benaga and bily. So have we or havn't we signed this guy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 does anyone know if he is "owned" like Manny was? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 the daily mail today said, Moyes looking to bring in 4 more players after signing Benaga and bily. So have we or havn't we signed this guy? We havent signed him no, we applied for a work permit (which was granted) but that was as a precautionary measure. Everton probably dealt entirely through Banega's agent and thats where the confusion lies. The agent is now trying to negotiate a deal with Valencia and Banega and neither of them are that interested. Valencia will want a replacement however, and if they do finally say yes then it wont happen untill the day of the TW shutting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 The channel 5 commentators at the match tonight mentioned us getting Distin in after signing Bilyaletdinov and Banega, it seems that most peeps think we've already signed him. The club havent said a word, but why go to a tribunal hearing for a work permit. This one baffles me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamiemaher85 Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 I heard the C5 commentators say that, wrong end of the stick i think. He's on the bench for Valencia tonight, take from that what you will. I know how I think the situation will conclude and it doesn't end with him playing in Blue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 This was an interview before tonights game in Sigma............. DAVID MOYES believes Everton can emerge stronger without Joleon Lescott – provided he lands his main transfer targets. The Goodison outfit remains confident of bringing in at least four new faces before the transfer window closes at 5pm next Tuesday. Moyes has already made a £9million move for Lokomotiv Moscow left winger Diniyar Bilyaletdinov and is confident of landing Valencia midfielder Ever Banega on a season-long loan. --------- It must be still in the pipeline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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