markjazzbassist Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 Calm down lads Lowensda and Newty haven't been coming on because of the bickering! I'm in training all day at work and when I read this I literally laughed out loud. Ha, well played MC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 Calm down lads Lowensda and Newty haven't been coming on because of the bickering! Don't flatter yourself sugar tits xx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 Bickering? Bellends more like. Was being diplomatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 You've been sucking up to MC too long. **shlurrrpp** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 Bickering? Bellends more like. Was being diplomatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 There must be something in the air, because I agree with MC on this (not the only time recently). Deulofeu is a prodigious talent, and we're really not getting the best out of him right now. If his stamina is limited, then use him as an impact sub. Not every player in the squad has to be a starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 He was on fire last year and then got dropped by Martinez! Since then hasn't found any form. I thought he looked dangerous uptop earlier this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holystove Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 Our good friends at the "CIES Footbal Observatory", (an independent study centre located in Switzerland that specializes in the statistical analysis of football) have released their new list with the most expensive players. One Evertonian included at number 25: Romelu Lukaku - 70,9m EUR. Full list : http://www.football-observatory.com/IMG/sites/b5wp/2016/172/en/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainbeaker Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 This could be an offer hard to turn down. http://metro.co.uk/2017/01/18/romelu-lukaku-responds-to-speculation-hes-set-for-stunning-70m-chelsea-return-6388172/ surely can get a decent replacement and change for that. Again probably just speculation though with the prospect of costa going to China. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 That comment "he's refused to rule out a return " pisses me off. What he said was he isn't even thinking about it he's focused on Everton and then goes on to say "you lot will write what you want to welrite anyway" Looks like he's finally learning to deal with the gutter snipes. Sibdane, Matt and StevO 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 great comment - "you lot will write what you want to write anyway" The penny has finally dropped it seems. It has done him no favours being so "open" with the press... he knows that the reality is - score on the pitch and he will get interest.... if the interested clubs are interested enough to spend £60m then he will likely be sold.... essentially its in the hands of him and his performances - not his mouth. credit where it is due - I'm quick enough to slate him, so I will be just as ready to praise him for a well handled interview. Matt and Sibdane 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 great comment - "you lot will write what you want to write anyway" The penny has finally dropped it seems. It has done him no favours being so "open" with the press... he knows that the reality is - score on the pitch and he will get interest.... if the interested clubs are interested enough to spend £60m then he will likely be sold.... essentially its in the hands of him and his performances - not his mouth. credit where it is due - I'm quick enough to slate him, so I will be just as ready to praise him for a well handled interview. Good post mate, and shows you're not totally blinded by dislike for him. Fair play to you ?? Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 great comment - "you lot will write what you want to write anyway" The penny has finally dropped it seems. It has done him no favours being so "open" with the press... he knows that the reality is - score on the pitch and he will get interest.... if the interested clubs are interested enough to spend £60m then he will likely be sold.... essentially its in the hands of him and his performances - not his mouth. credit where it is due - I'm quick enough to slate him, so I will be just as ready to praise him for a well handled interview. Do we agree on a Lukaku post?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 Do we agree on a Lukaku post?! Good post mate, and shows you're not totally blinded by dislike for him. Fair play to you lets say I'm a harsh critic.... I think this weekend has made me realise why I don't particularly "LIKE HIM".... my appraisal of him as a footballer is irrespective of my opinion of him. I retain a lot of those opinions that he is a very good finisher with incredible athletic ability and potential. But I do not rate him as a technical player, or one who is team focused - his attitude does bother me. What I seen this weekend that makes me "fall in love" with a player is seeing someone like Tom Davies play for the shirt.... there is nothing like watching someone play for the shirt with genuine top class ability. When that player has come through the ranks and "gets Everton" - well its like Rooney all over again isn't it? That's where my lack of "liking" Rom comes from.... and I'm being honest - I can't sugar-coat it - there is something missing. Rom at Everton has been like inviting someone to your house for tea and when they get in they don't take their jacket off, sit their looking at their watch and don't bother conversing unless its something that interests them. You kinda want to say "feel free to go mate" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 I don't care if it was 200m we can't lose rom our whole team is built around him he is the only source of goals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 lets say I'm a harsh critic.... I think this weekend has made me realise why I don't particularly "LIKE HIM".... my appraisal of him as a footballer is irrespective of my opinion of him. I retain a lot of those opinions that he is a very good finisher with incredible athletic ability and potential. But I do not rate him as a technical player, or one who is team focused - his attitude does bother me. What I seen this weekend that makes me "fall in love" with a player is seeing someone like Tom Davies play for the shirt.... there is nothing like watching someone play for the shirt with genuine top class ability. When that player has come through the ranks and "gets Everton" - well its like Rooney all over again isn't it? That's where my lack of "liking" Rom comes from.... and I'm being honest - I can't sugar-coat it - there is something missing. Rom at Everton has been like inviting someone to your house for tea and when they get in they don't take their jacket off, sit their looking at their watch and don't bother conversing unless its something that interests them. You kinda want to say "feel free to go mate" And all that is fair comment and I understand where you're coming from with all of that. It's just you use any opportunity to reinforce that opinion when you really don't have to, it's a valid point of view probably shared by plenty but other have different ones to it. When you needlessley critisise people will needlessly defend, it's just a viscious circle mate isn't it. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 What I seen this weekend that makes me "fall in love" with a player is seeing someone like Tom Davies play for the shirt.... there is nothing like watching someone play for the shirt with genuine top class ability. When that player has come through the ranks and "gets Everton" - well its like Rooney all over again isn't it? I love Rom but after seeing how Tom Davies plays for the shirt I have to admit that he jumps ahead of Rom as one of my favorite players at Everton. I would hate to lose Rom but the spirit shown by Davies is what makes me love Everton even more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 I love Rom but after seeing how Tom Davies plays for the shirt I have to admit that he jumps ahead of Rom as one of my favorite players at Everton. I would hate to lose Rom but the spirit shown by Davies is what makes me love Everton even more. This is why I understand how some maybe younger fans love Lukaku. They have had nothing but bargain level strikers with less prolific stats in average teams to "endure".... ultimately younger fans do love seeing one of their players bag goals vs other top named strikers in the league almost as much as they like to see their club on top of the table. When I first started watching Everton I would be crestfallen to see Mark Falco, Frank Mcavenie, Ally Mcinally or Ian Rush lead the charts. But what I didn't realise that was I was watching a team that "every single player" "got Everton"... led by Reid, Gray, Ratcliffe, Southall - they all would spill blood for the shirt. I've never seen anything with Rom that tells me he would do that - its as if he still hasn't unpacked his suitcase and lives in a hotel. A goalscorer he may well be - but he never has struck me as someone who allowed himself to soak up the club. Many players have done that - he's not the first, Keown, Lineker, Cottee, never really let the fans know they were happy to be here. The fans aren't soft. Its just that in the recent the climate many fans are that desperate for a hero they will forgo certain things. I do think Rom is growing up though.... there are signs of that. I am 100% certain that when he reflects on his career he will realise we were the best thing that ever happened to him - absolutely certain. It will not get any better for him. He will fall short of the striker that is required to play for the very top teams - certainly on a regular basis. At best he will be a rotation striker for a PSG, or lead the line for a team like Juve who just aren't at the level they used to be in a league that is becoming more and more pedestrian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 There is a big difference between Davies and Rom though; Rom was never raised a blue and therefore will never have the same passion as Davies. Also, one has a prick of an agent, the other doesn't. Romey 1878 and Lowensda 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 He will fall short of the striker that is required to play for the very top teams - certainly on a regular basis. At best he will be a rotation striker for a PSG, or lead the line for a team like Juve who just aren't at the level they used to be in a league that is becoming more and more pedestrian. Don't necessarily agree with this. I think he could easily start for PSG and a few other teams in a couple of years. He still has a lot to learn, but I have no doubt that his ambition will take him there. Lowensda and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 (edited) Don't necessarily agree with this. I think he could easily start for PSG and a few other teams in a couple of years. He still has a lot to learn, but I have no doubt that his ambition will take him there. probably right there, I was thinking rotation for city or Chelsea. He would start for PSG - I just don't think there is much satisfaction for players there - a bit like playing for Celtic, expected to win every game in a poor league. Edited January 18, 2017 by Hafnia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 This is why I understand how some maybe younger fans love Lukaku. They have had nothing but bargain level strikers with less prolific stats in average teams to "endure".... ultimately younger fans do love seeing one of their players bag goals vs other top named strikers in the league almost as much as they like to see their club on top of the table. When I first started watching Everton I would be crestfallen to see Mark Falco, Frank Mcavenie, Ally Mcinally or Ian Rush lead the charts. But what I didn't realise that was I was watching a team that "every single player" "got Everton"... led by Reid, Gray, Ratcliffe, Southall - they all would spill blood for the shirt. I've never seen anything with Rom that tells me he would do that - its as if he still hasn't unpacked his suitcase and lives in a hotel. A goalscorer he may well be - but he never has struck me as someone who allowed himself to soak up the club. Many players have done that - he's not the first, Keown, Lineker, Cottee, never really let the fans know they were happy to be here. The fans aren't soft. Its just that in the recent the climate many fans are that desperate for a hero they will forgo certain things. I do think Rom is growing up though.... there are signs of that. I am 100% certain that when he reflects on his career he will realise we were the best thing that ever happened to him - absolutely certain. It will not get any better for him. He will fall short of the striker that is required to play for the very top teams - certainly on a regular basis. At best he will be a rotation striker for a PSG, or lead the line for a team like Juve who just aren't at the level they used to be in a league that is becoming more and more pedestrian. They done the same with Ferguson but in a different way though. He was idolised because he loved the club (still does) but in reality his goal scoring record was awful, he was injured all the time and when not injured he was suspended, he cost us more games than he won us but we were dreadful at the time, proper in the doldrums with no hope of anything so fans clung to Ferguson. In reality if we were a really good side back then Ferguson wouldn't of been tolerated like he was or idolised. MikeO, Matt and Romey 1878 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 They done the same with Ferguson but in a different way though. He was idolised because he loved the club (still does) but in reality his goal scoring record was awful, he was injured all the time and when not injured he was suspended, he cost us more games than he won us but we were dreadful at the time, proper in the doldrums with no hope of anything so fans clung to Ferguson. In reality if we were a really good side back then Ferguson wouldn't of been tolerated like he was or idolised. probably not - he did get away with some really idiotic behaviour.... however he represented the rebellious but brilliant maverick capable of putting the most cultured and capable defenders to the sword and made to look like pathetic little boys. "On his game" - probably the most devastating traditional centre forward the modern game has seen. Absolutely freakish ability - we talk about first touch a lot.... he had "chewing gum feet" (actually what he referred to them as) - rarely seen him miscontrol a ball. I loved the way he could fire a ball across his shoulder. there were some games where players walked off the pitch having played him and looked shellshocked. I had a few bevvies with Mark Wright from Liverpool when Mikel Madar played up front for us. He said Ferguson was the toughest, strongest striker he faced.... Alan Shearer wasn't a fraction near him in that sense. He then went on to say Van Basten was by far the best he had ever faced. Basically most defenders were afraid of Dunc - he would make sure you went off with aches. But yes - he did short change us.... could have been so much more even when you account for his injuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 That comment "he's refused to rule out a return " pisses me off. What he said was he isn't even thinking about it he's focused on Everton and then goes on to say "you lot will write what you want to welrite anyway" Looks like he's finally learning to deal with the gutter snipes. Absolutely right. The press are making a meal of it to sell papers. In life, though, it's always best to say nothing and not rule out options - no matter how strongly we may believe something today. That's just sage advice in general. I don't expect any player to state publicly Everton is the only team they'll ever play for. We have to earn their loyalty, and they have to prove their worth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 Didn't ferguson have a good goal scoring record in his first spell? Something like 44 in 116? But then his second spell brought it down. Back on topic though....wow was that Rom who said that. Fair play to him, growing isn't he. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 A good insight into what Lukaku needs to do more of. I think a lot of people will already know this, but a good read..... http://www.skysports.com/share/10740225 holystove, nutmegwolf203, Sibdane and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 Nothing that I haven't said in a different manner. The only issue is that many questioned of what I was saying is true.... it's there in black and white. For me though he seems to be shifting his attitude.... definately notice so.ething there that wasn't. The new kids have lit fires under arses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 Well in Newty, it was going so well and all ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 A good insight into what Lukaku needs to do more of. I think a lot of people will already know this, but a good read..... http://www.skysports.com/share/10740225 About his running off the ball: Let's not forget that, when he joined us, he couldn't manage more than 60 minutes per game. He's improved leaps and bounds in this area, and maybe the price paid is less running off the ball. I'm sure that will improve over time, but let's not overlook the improvements he's already made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 newty :shaking fist: :shaking fist: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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