Kohen Posted May 31, 2012 Report Share Posted May 31, 2012 This question asked by Sky on FB " With Frank Lampard ruled out of Euro 2012, who should play alongside Steven Gerrard in central midfield? Jordan Henderson Phil Jones Scott Parker Phil Jagielka James Milner" Really puts things into perspective.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodisonRoad Posted May 31, 2012 Report Share Posted May 31, 2012 lampard out...henderson in... Can't stop laughing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted May 31, 2012 Report Share Posted May 31, 2012 what, that England are fucked? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 31, 2012 Report Share Posted May 31, 2012 Those options aren't really options at all. Our midfield is going to get destroyed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted May 31, 2012 Report Share Posted May 31, 2012 Those options aren't really options at all. Our midfield is going to get destroyed. not really mate, we wont be able to field a midfield to destroy.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted May 31, 2012 Report Share Posted May 31, 2012 (edited) we should play 5 at the back....we have lots of cb's...2 full backs that are good goin forward..,stick parker in front of the back 3 with 3 of milner/gerrard/young/downing/henderson behind rooney..seems the only way we won't get overrun to me Edited May 31, 2012 by marcopaulo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted May 31, 2012 Report Share Posted May 31, 2012 we should play 5 at the back....we have lots of cb's...2 full backs that are good goin forward..,stick parker in front of the back 3 with 3 of milner/gerrard/young/downing/henderson behind rooney..seems the only way we won't get overrun to me Except at this rate, Rooney will only be there for the ultimately pointless final game... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted May 31, 2012 Report Share Posted May 31, 2012 carroll then.,, hahahahahahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted May 31, 2012 Report Share Posted May 31, 2012 Why is Osman constantly over looked, probs 2nd best English midfielder this season. Parker, Osman, Lampard. Jones, Gerrard, and Henderson have all had seasons to forget yet still ahead of Osman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kohen Posted May 31, 2012 Report Share Posted May 31, 2012 (edited) I'm gonna use Osman as a quick comparison as he's an English Midfielder. Phil Jones - Defender Phil Jagielka Defender Edited May 31, 2012 by Kohen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted May 31, 2012 Report Share Posted May 31, 2012 lampard out...henderson in... Osman should be there ahead of Henderson - surely it's of benefit to the national team to pick in-form players?! Henderson (and Downing) are decent players but they've have had god awful seasons and shouldn't really have been considered at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted May 31, 2012 Report Share Posted May 31, 2012 (edited) Scholes, Osman, Carrick, Butterfield, Barton, Cleverly, Barkley, McEachran, Sidwell, Jenas, Cork, Shelvey... Lansbury, Rose, Spearing, Henderson. Wishere, Rodwell, and Huddlestone the fat git would be a head as well but is injured. Anyone Ive missed who have been better? Edited May 31, 2012 by pete0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted May 31, 2012 Report Share Posted May 31, 2012 I'm gonna use Osman as a quick comparison as he's an English Midfielder. Osman should have 4 assists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 31, 2012 Report Share Posted May 31, 2012 Why are people surprised Henderson has been called up over Osman when Henderson was on the stand by list? Surely it can't have come as shock?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted May 31, 2012 Report Share Posted May 31, 2012 Why are people surprised Henderson has been called up over Osman when Henderson was on the stand by list? Surely it can't have come as shock?! Not a shock, I moaned he was on stand-by. I want a England team I can support, but every squad is always the 'big' teams players regardless of wether they have been shite. Completely reflects our nations culture were merit is classed below who you know/represent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 1, 2012 Report Share Posted June 1, 2012 Why are people surprised Henderson has been called up over Osman when Henderson was on the stand by list? Surely it can't have come as shock?! Might be because it was a stupid choice in the 1st place and the only consolation was that he wouldnt be going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted June 1, 2012 Report Share Posted June 1, 2012 (edited) Scholes, Osman, Carrick, Butterfield, Barton, Cleverly, Barkley, McEachran, Sidwell, Jenas, Cork, Shelvey... Lansbury, Rose, Spearing, Henderson. Wishere, Rodwell, and Huddlestone the fat git would be a head as well but is injured. Anyone Ive missed who have been better? To be fair most on there are ridiculous calls (but I'm sure you're just making a point). I think the genuine fair calls would be osman, Britton, Joe cole and even Adam lallana! Many on that list are retired, injured or simply haven't played much - I don't actually think Henderson would have been in ahead of cleverly or even Rodwell were fully fit. Edited June 1, 2012 by c1982 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 1, 2012 Report Share Posted June 1, 2012 Phil McNulty @philmcnulty 1m Walcott now going back to the group to continue training. Phil McNulty @philmcnulty 2m Walcott down and having his ankle strapped at Wembley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted June 1, 2012 Report Share Posted June 1, 2012 (edited) To be fair most on there are ridiculous calls (but I'm sure you're just making a point). I think the genuine fair calls would be osman, Britton, Joe cole and even Adam lallana! Many on that list are retired, injured or simply haven't played much - I don't actually think Henderson would have been in ahead of cleverly or even Rodwell were fully fit. The ridiculous ones are still better than Henderson eg. Sidwell and Jenas(only 1 injured but due back this week). I really dont see what Henderson has to offer. Think Powell should if been a head of him after the worldie he scored in the playoff final, game with lots of pressure and he still performed (dont know wether he's injured though). Missed Scholes and Beckham as well. Edited June 1, 2012 by pete0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted June 1, 2012 Report Share Posted June 1, 2012 (edited) Scholes - retired Osman - better option than Henderson Carrick - retired Butterfield - have you really seen him play enough? Barton - shouldn't be considered Cleverly - injured Barkley - hardly played so Henderson is a better option McEachran - same as barkley Sidwell - pretty sure he's injured too? Jenas - injured Cork - looks decent but once again have you really seen enough? Sure Henderson would look class at championship level Shelvey - pretty much on par Lansbury - not done anything to note Rose - looks okay but mainly used as a full-back Spearing - meh Wishere - injured Rodwell - injured Huddlestone - injured Who is the fat git? Powell - big difference between prem and league 2! Like I said ridiculous list really, I think osman, Britton and cole are the only real legitimate calls. Plus maybe Beckham now you've mentioned him! Edited June 1, 2012 by c1982 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted June 1, 2012 Report Share Posted June 1, 2012 (edited) A good manager would be able to convince Scholes to play, he was tempted last time but said no as he thought it was unfair on the players who had played the qualifiers. Carrick didnt retire, he went on holiday rather than be a back-up(which was a slap in the face as he had a much better season performance wise than those included in the squad). Not seen much of him this year, but he was excellent last season. Why shouldnt Barton be considered? The captain and ex-captain ar much worse. Cleverley is fit. Barkley and McEachran have played as much as AOC who's in the squad, with the former being the better imo. Didnt realise Sidwell had another injury, Jenas is due back though. The fat git is Huddlestone and I mentioned he, along with Wilshere and Rodwell are injured. Seen a few games of Cork and he performed much better than Henderson. Shelvey and Spearing are shite I was making the point of them having a better season than Henderson so its ridiculous that he's a head of them. Powell strongly linked to united, Henderson strongly linked to Liverpool reserves Edited June 1, 2012 by pete0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 1, 2012 Report Share Posted June 1, 2012 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18299713 wonder how that would work? Id be pissed if I was an Italian fan who had booked everything already and it happened though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted June 1, 2012 Report Share Posted June 1, 2012 A good manager would be able to convince Scholes to play, he was tempted last time but said no as he thought it was unfair on the players who had played the qualifiers. Carrick didnt retire, he went on holiday rather than be a back-up(which was a slap in the face as he had a much better season performance wise than those included in the squad). Not seen much of him this year, but he was excellent last season. Why shouldnt Barton be considered? The captain and ex-captain ar much worse. Cleverley is fit. Barkley and McEachran have played as much as AOC who's in the squad, with the former being the better imo. Didnt realise Sidwell had another injury, Jenas is due back though. The fat git is Huddlestone and I mentioned he, along with Wilshere and Rodwell are injured. Seen a few games of Cork and he performed much better than Henderson. Shelvey and Spearing are shite I was making the point of them having a better season than Henderson so its ridiculous that he's a head of them. Powell strongly linked to united, Henderson strongly linked to Liverpool reserves The fact remains that Scholes and Carrick are unavailable - you've just said yourself there too that Carrick didn't want to be on stand-by so pressumably ahead of Henderson. Cleverly may be back from injury but he's nowhere near match fit/tournament fit. To say Barkley/McEachran have played as much as AOC is incorrect - AOC has probably played more competitive football this season than the both of them added have in their careers! Barton is rightfully omitted - Terry shouldn't be there imo but he's 'innocent until proven guilty' - and that won't proved until after the Euro's (how convenient!). Gerrard is a different case to Barton in a way that Gerrard has control now (and is a much better player) - Barton is simply a liability and to be honest he's been poor this season too! As for Powell - give the lad time - he's not played at the top level yet. Yes he's linked to man.utd but he's not there yet - not every promising youth is the next Wayne Rooney (this applies to Barkley, etc too!) I agree that Henderson shouldn't be in, I just think you've got a little carried away with your replacements! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Posted June 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2012 http://www.bbc.co.uk...otball/18299713 wonder how that would work? Id be pissed if I was an Italian fan who had booked everything already and it happened though... Either the team that failed to qualify with the most points would be put into the Euro's or the team that finished behind Italy in the group's would go through. I doubt it will happen though, I think he's just saying that to look good, no team will pull out of a major tournement on their own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted June 2, 2012 Report Share Posted June 2, 2012 Just bought an England away shirt...reduced to £12.50 with free delivery from JJB direct or via ebay http://www.ebay.co.u...#ht_1851wt_1139 . Never had one before....but as it's blue thought I'd go for it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted June 2, 2012 Report Share Posted June 2, 2012 really good deal that mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted June 2, 2012 Report Share Posted June 2, 2012 Not ba at all Mike! Put a bet on the England game. £5 on a Belgium 2-0 victory...returns £145 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 2, 2012 Report Share Posted June 2, 2012 Not ba at all Mike! Put a bet on the England game. £5 on a Belgium 2-0 victory...returns £145 bloody hell id do that and i rarely bet any more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted June 2, 2012 Report Share Posted June 2, 2012 Eduardo 100/1 to be topscorer seems a very large price, worth an e.w. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted June 2, 2012 Report Share Posted June 2, 2012 ashley young is 80/1..seems a good price to me gonna have a think about that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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