Newty82 Posted January 15 Report Share Posted January 15 Absolute fuckin farce. Biggest, richest league in the world and they can't even bring in a legal team to at least advise them on how they should set up their own regulations? They haven't even bothered to think about how the system will work should a charge be brought forward... A club could have a shite year...and be charged for that shite year 3 years in a row under the current system. Each time costing the club more money and putting them in a worse position. Fuck me. There should be people handing in their notice on this. Matt and Romey 1878 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted January 15 Report Share Posted January 15 StevO and London Blue 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 15 Report Share Posted January 15 13 minutes ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: Palfy and Romey 1878 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 15 Report Share Posted January 15 It’s funny really, when the Sly 6 wanted to belittle the Premier League which club was it that was loudest in defending the Premier League? That’s right, it was Everton Football Club. Now they seem hellbent on trying to destroy us. Cunts. Quinn31, Matt, RuffRob and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted January 15 Report Share Posted January 15 2 hours ago, Palfy said: How do you work that out we are not appealing because we were innocent we are appealing on the severity of the sentence. Now they seem to have come up with a formula for these breaches, which is a initial 6 points deduction if found guilty and and 1 point for every 5 million over the 105 million allowed, so I don’t see us getting a reduction in the forthcoming appeal and if found guilty on the 2nd charge we will incur a minimum 6 points deduction. Fortunately, Mark answered your post with this post… 1 hour ago, Romey 1878 said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted January 15 Report Share Posted January 15 30 minutes ago, StevO said: Fortunately, Mark answered your post with this post… Let’s hope they are right about that as a genuine expenditure that cannot be used as part of any over spend, I’ll be honest I’m not sure so won’t be betting my house on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted January 15 Report Share Posted January 15 1 hour ago, MikeO said: I think you are right Mike all we can really do is cross our fingers and hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted January 15 Report Share Posted January 15 Alex Crook on TalkSPORT saying that 80% of the Premier League are on the edge of a breach. 16 out of 20 clubs! The transfer window shows whats going on. Clubs are now scared to spend. What happens here is we now don’t get as many of the worlds best players coming here. The league ends up devaluing itself by its actions. But wait, they see this happening. So they have already got plans in place to change the rules to make sure that doesn’t happen. So when they change the rules City and Chelsea are ok, so they can carry on spending £100m on a player. During that time the damage has already been done to Everton and Forest. If I wasn’t so annoyed I’d be laughing. Hafnia, Romey 1878, Matt and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted January 16 Report Share Posted January 16 11 hours ago, StevO said: Alex Crook on TalkSPORT saying that 80% of the Premier League are on the edge of a breach. 16 out of 20 clubs! The transfer window shows whats going on. Clubs are now scared to spend. What happens here is we now don’t get as many of the worlds best players coming here. The league ends up devaluing itself by its actions. But wait, they see this happening. So they have already got plans in place to change the rules to make sure that doesn’t happen. So when they change the rules City and Chelsea are ok, so they can carry on spending £100m on a player. During that time the damage has already been done to Everton and Forest. If I wasn’t so annoyed I’d be laughing. Thick as pig shit - masters and co.. They are so arrogant and incompetent, they can't even see that the current rules allow double jeopardy. Their press release yesterday was pathetic, they sent it to try and create the impression that we admitted guilt. Just who the fuck is running that shit show. Reminds me of our club under the now dismantled board. Masters is up in front of select committee today. Hope the prick gets absolutely grilled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted January 16 Report Share Posted January 16 https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/richard-masters-breaks-silence-over-28454853 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 16 Report Share Posted January 16 1 minute ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/richard-masters-breaks-silence-over-28454853 The woman questioning him tore him to shreds and made him look like the clown we know he is. Palfy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted January 16 Report Share Posted January 16 https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/13048786/everton-reporter-notebook-groundhog-day-at-goodison-but-blues-need-help-in-drama-series StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonsta Posted January 16 Report Share Posted January 16 I don't pretend to understand all that is going on, as it changes from day to day, we have already been punished for most of what we have been accused of now. Yet part of that period is also in this latest charge, we have not bought anyone, we have cut the wage bill, we have sold our best player, I don't see what else we can do. We know its all down to one man who bought the club, and decided he was above the law because he was rich, and would not have anyone telling him what to do, But we also had a board of directors who sat on their hands and said, and did nothing, they are as guilty as he is. The football world told us we were the worst run club in europe, nothing changed. This once great club, (and will be again) has been pushed to the edge of the cliff by arrogance, and gross incompetence. As always the fans will never desert them, and will continue to fight the good fight, to save our club. Sev 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted January 16 Report Share Posted January 16 2 hours ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/richard-masters-breaks-silence-over-28454853 The different environment thing what exactly is that meant to mean, pathetic there’s only one difference between us and City which is they are big enough to hurt the PL and we aren’t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 16 Report Share Posted January 16 It was good to have it confirmed by him that the PL views it's members in terms of big and small clubs though, and we're just one of the small ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggytop Posted January 16 Report Share Posted January 16 Mr Masters dug the PL into a bigger hole imo, one rule for us one rule for City, things like that must surely go in our favour at any appeal. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 16 Report Share Posted January 16 4 minutes ago, Wiggytop said: Mr Masters dug the PL into a bigger hole imo, one rule for us one rule for City, things like that must surely go in our favour at any appeal. He effectively wrote our appeal for us throughout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted January 16 Report Share Posted January 16 2 hours ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/richard-masters-breaks-silence-over-28454853 When City are mentioned all you get is smoke and mirrors from the PL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post plaidharper Posted January 16 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 16 Can no longer celebrate goals because of VAR. It is now clearly more about spreadsheets than team sheets. The PL keeps inventing ways to destroy joy... What's next? StevO, Romey 1878, Sibdane and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRob Posted January 16 Report Share Posted January 16 Let's just say we are argubley found guilty for a second year in a row (nothing would suprise me now), how on earth would is be just and fair to have the punishment for both seasons dished out as two lots of points deductions in a single season. PL could have saved themselves a massive headache on this by taking in to account our arguement that over spends relates to stadium development cost. (Wish could be argued eitherway by the sound of it) and come to the conclusion that we missed breaking the financial rules by a whisker - end of, we looking in to it, no punishment needed. Instead they really have opened a shit storm around this. We are currenly being lined up for two lots of punishment and then they are talking about changing the rules again. StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Boston Toffee Posted January 16 Report Share Posted January 16 My word it can be so painful being an Everton supporter. The manager n players have putting everything into the matches. But the idiots thst have been in charge seemed to have no clue. Still chance the new owners could be 777 who gi en their history will just muddy the waters more. It's like a curse. Hopefully we get good news eventually and things turn for the better. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRob Posted January 16 Report Share Posted January 16 what is interesting is that one of the things forest are likely to say is that they hung on to transfer deadline day to sell Johnson for £47m rather have sell him in June for £35m (some made roughly 30% more by holding out to TDD) to ensure the sale came in the financial year needed. where as we did the very opposite, selling Richarlison in order to make sure we got sale done in June and thus in the most appropriate accounting year - Everton arguably missing out on 30% more fee just to try and adhere to PL rules. 30% more being roughly £19m!! ironically the amount we have been told we breach the rules by. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 6 hours ago, RuffRob said: what is interesting is that one of the things forest are likely to say is that they hung on to transfer deadline day to sell Johnson for £47m rather have sell him in June for £35m (some made roughly 30% more by holding out to TDD) to ensure the sale came in the financial year needed. where as we did the very opposite, selling Richarlison in order to make sure we got sale done in June and thus in the most appropriate accounting year - Everton arguably missing out on 30% more fee just to try and adhere to PL rules. 30% more being roughly £19m!! ironically the amount we have been told we breach the rules by. Very shrewd business acumen from Forest, yet that doesn’t mean it will be accepted by the commission. Then you look at our decision and think that as the worst run club in the the PL are we really surprised at the lack of foresight when it comes to looking after the clubs finances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 9 hours ago, RuffRob said: what is interesting is that one of the things forest are likely to say is that they hung on to transfer deadline day to sell Johnson for £47m rather have sell him in June for £35m (some made roughly 30% more by holding out to TDD) to ensure the sale came in the financial year needed. where as we did the very opposite, selling Richarlison in order to make sure we got sale done in June and thus in the most appropriate accounting year - Everton arguably missing out on 30% more fee just to try and adhere to PL rules. 30% more being roughly £19m!! ironically the amount we have been told we breach the rules by. You think we were going to get £90m for Richarlison?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 49 minutes ago, Matt said: You think we were going to get £90m for Richarlison?! Absolutely no chance. There's a reason that even with us being in desperate need of a quick sale that only Spurs were interested in him. We were lucky to make a profit on the £40m we paid. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 Masters saying there is no set framework for punishments for breaching FFP (and he thinks that lack of framework is the best way of doing it) means that even though it's thought that Forest are double over our first breach that they could end up with a lesser punishment than we got . Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 Watched the committee meeting yesterday. Masters is thick as pig shit, didn't come across well at all. The club need to get active in letting the media know that the EPL have abused process by changing how interest charges were treated. Matt and Romey 1878 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 8 minutes ago, Hafnia said: Watched the committee meeting yesterday. Masters is thick as pig shit, didn't come across well at all. The club need to get active in letting the media know that the EPL have abused process by changing how interest charges were treated. Was rewatching (autocorrect tried to change that to retching, not far off ) and I'm wondering something. If Masters said that if City broke FFP they'd be charged too in the same way... Doesn't that imply they're not under investigation for financial breaches? If so, how the actual fuck not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoof_It_Nev Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 1 hour ago, Matt said: Was rewatching (autocorrect tried to change that to retching, not far off ) and I'm wondering something. If Masters said that if City broke FFP they'd be charged too in the same way... Doesn't that imply they're not under investigation for financial breaches? If so, how the actual fuck not? I might be wrong but I think he said if City had breached in the last financial records they'd be under the same timeframe as us (and other small clubs!). I guess they submitted 'clean' accounts this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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