Sev Posted March 6 Report Share Posted March 6 Just fooling around with realistic and potential points for the rest of the season. Some might be a tad to optimistic. But hey, I'm a fan. Teams Realistic/Potential My not realistic points Man. United - Everton 0 or 1 1 Everton - Liverpool (PP) 0 or 1 3 Bournemouth - Everton 0 or 1 1 Newcastle - Everton 0 1 Everton - Burnley 3 3 Chelsea - Everton 0 or 1 1 Everton - Nott. Forest 3 3 Everton - Brentford 3 3 Luton - Everton 0 or 1 1 Everton - Sheff. United 3 3 Arsenal - Everton 0 0 Points sum 12 or 17 20 Total season points 37 or 42 45 And none of that will probably happen Our second "breach" is not included cos we we have no clue what will happen. List looks shit, sorry about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted March 6 Report Share Posted March 6 1 hour ago, Sev said: List looks shit, sorry about that. I like it. I'm useless at formatting so it makes a nice change to see a chart I understand Sev and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRob Posted March 7 Report Share Posted March 7 Most of our away games are fairly tough - so would be happy getting 3 -4 points from these (3 draws or a win) if our luck changes a little at home. Home, we have been shocking results wise - but if we don't take at least 9 points from those 5 games then we really don't have any right to be in the Premiership. Unless we get a couple of unexpected results beforehand you would have to say the Forest game could have a lot riding on it. We could really do with a result against Man U to take the club in to the short break we are then going to have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted March 7 Report Share Posted March 7 End of season tension for the third year running Sev 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted March 7 Report Share Posted March 7 If we can double our points in our next 11 games from our last 11 we will be on target for another 12 points, giving us 39 for the season if we are capable of achieving the 12 points, which is in no way a guarantee the way we performed in the last 11. Then we have the next PSR hearing and if found guilty we will lose more points, the league have already confirmed anyone found guilty will get a points deduction, and if Forest are found guilty as well we will both suffer the same points deduction in my opinion, which I believe will be 6 points a piece. To stay up I believe we need beat Forest and hope they don’t get more points than us in the next 11 games, if they do this could be the season that our PL status comes to an end, for no fault of the fans the management, or the players (bar maybe some poor finishing) but the owner and his board who have royally fucked us up financially. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted March 11 Report Share Posted March 11 https://www.everton.news/everton-set-to-appoint-record-breaking-former-player-as-new-head-of-youth-recruitment/ StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted March 11 Report Share Posted March 11 Adding some structure. Good to see Kev having a bit more impact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Palfy Posted March 11 Report Share Posted March 11 6 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: Not going to help us this season when we face our 2nd charge and another possible points deduction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted March 11 Report Share Posted March 11 5 minutes ago, Palfy said: Not going to help us this season when we face our 2nd charge and another possible points deduction. I know. It’ll be a case of us and Forest getting done and that’s that. City and Chelsea get away with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted March 11 Report Share Posted March 11 2 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: I know. It’ll be a case of us and Forest getting done and that’s that. City and Chelsea get away with it. To be honest I didn’t consider City and Chelsea getting away with it scot free, now you’ve mentioned it I’m fuming and won’t sleep tonight. Matt and Romey 1878 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted March 11 Report Share Posted March 11 Called it the day we got the first sanction. Was always going to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted March 11 Report Share Posted March 11 This is the league admitting that the current regulations are flawed and one of the main reasons they’re changing them is because the original regulations never allowed for inflation (if they had we’d have been fine). So I’m sure Super Silk is licking his lips at getting to put our case forward for the second charge. Newty82, StevO, Matt and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted March 11 Report Share Posted March 11 25 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: This is the league admitting that the current regulations are flawed and one of the main reasons they’re changing them is because the original regulations never allowed for inflation (if they had we’d have been fine). So I’m sure Super Silk is licking his lips at getting to put our case forward for the second charge. Would love him to go into the second case and open by asking for our points back from the first case in light of new evidence. Matt and Romey 1878 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Romey 1878 Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 https://www.evertonfc.com/news/3930574/vaughan-becomes-evertons-head-of-academy-recruitment-player-pathways Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted March 13 Report Share Posted March 13 https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-points-deduction-nottingham-forest-28805281 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoof_It_Nev Posted March 13 Report Share Posted March 13 Surely the new rules will be going forward, not retrospective? Ridiculous if so. Means any of the top 6 can break the rules whenever they want then get a bail out when they change the rules after the crime has been committed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted March 13 Report Share Posted March 13 1 hour ago, Hoof_It_Nev said: Surely the new rules will be going forward, not retrospective? Ridiculous if so. Means any of the top 6 can break the rules whenever they want then get a bail out when they change the rules after the crime has been committed. Like they have been doing you mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gwlad Posted March 17 Report Share Posted March 17 Burnley and Luton both dug in and showed belief yesterday. We have done it before but we still have the Sword of Damocles over us with the uncertainty of points deduction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-points-deduction-key-days-28836438 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 Forest only got a 4 point deduction then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 9 minutes ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: Forest only got a 4 point deduction then! https://www.joe.co.uk/news/nottingham-forest-receive-premier-league-points-deduction-after-breaching-ffp-rules-427498 So we'll be getting 6 then I guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sev Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 Which, again, makes you wonder where the hell the 10 points deduction we recieved first came from. Matt, Formby, MikeO and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRob Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 No offficial announcment on Forest's 4 points, so another leak if indeed true. It will be interesting to read the details that are written on this case once they are posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 Didnt the PL tell us 6 points minimum for any PSR breach as a starting point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formby Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 5 minutes ago, Matt said: Didn't the PL tell us 6 points minimum for any PSR breach as a starting point? In Everton’s appeal hearing the commission said that a six-point deduction is “the minimum but sufficient sanction required to achieve the aims of the PSR.” StevO and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRob Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 1 minute ago, Matt said: Didnt the PL tell us 6 points minimum for any PSR breach as a starting point? I think they pretty much said that a points deduction is an appropriate punishment for a breach- and that 6 points was appropriate for our breach - but doing think it crystal clear that 6 points was a absolute minimum, becasue it sounded like you could claw points back for good things an offending club did. Maybe they did get 6, but reduce for 4 becasue they did have the intent to sell a player (it was just a few months late to maximise his sale value). It will all be very interesting to read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sev Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 50 minutes ago, RuffRob said: No offficial announcment on Forest's 4 points, so another leak if indeed true. It will be interesting to read the details that are written on this case once they are posted. Is this official enough? https://www.premierleague.com/news/3936397 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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