duncanmckenzieismagic Posted May 14, 2023 Report Share Posted May 14, 2023 https://www.toffeeweb.com/season/22-23/comment/editorial/43504.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 14, 2023 Report Share Posted May 14, 2023 1 hour ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: https://www.toffeeweb.com/season/22-23/comment/editorial/43504.html Hopefully Billy Bullshit doesn't somehow manage to hoodwink another buyer into keeping him around. London Blue and Newty82 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted May 14, 2023 Report Share Posted May 14, 2023 I think being part of a group could be the best move for us as we ‘navigate’ FFP and future trading. They’ve got Genoa C.F.C. in Italy, Standard Liège in Belgium, Red Star F.C. in France, CR Vasco da Gama in Brazil and Hertha BSC in Germany. I can see it as a way of not making the Gbamin, Tosun type mistakes e.g they’d always be a ‘buyer’ - it wouldn’t surprise me if there’s a lot of trading between the groups and I’d imagine it’d be to our benefit as the highest valued £££ club in the group. It will help with ‘unknown’ talent with work permit issues too. I, for one, am all for the ‘partner’ clubs idea. StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted May 14, 2023 Report Share Posted May 14, 2023 7 minutes ago, c1982 said: I think being part of a group could be the best move for us as we ‘navigate’ FFP and future trading. They’ve got Genoa C.F.C. in Italy, Standard Liège in Belgium, Red Star F.C. in France, CR Vasco da Gama in Brazil and Hertha BSC in Germany. I can see it as a way of not making the Gbamin, Tosun type mistakes e.g they’d always be a ‘buyer’ - it wouldn’t surprise me if there’s a lot of trading between the groups and I’d imagine it’d be to our benefit as the highest valued £££ club in the group. It will help with ‘unknown’ talent with work permit issues too. I, for one, am all for the ‘partner’ clubs idea. I get more worried for the game, its going to make it even more unbalanced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodison Glory Posted May 14, 2023 Report Share Posted May 14, 2023 39 minutes ago, c1982 said: I think being part of a group could be the best move for us as we ‘navigate’ FFP and future trading. They’ve got Genoa C.F.C. in Italy, Standard Liège in Belgium, Red Star F.C. in France, CR Vasco da Gama in Brazil and Hertha BSC in Germany. I can see it as a way of not making the Gbamin, Tosun type mistakes e.g they’d always be a ‘buyer’ - it wouldn’t surprise me if there’s a lot of trading between the groups and I’d imagine it’d be to our benefit as the highest valued £££ club in the group. It will help with ‘unknown’ talent with work permit issues too. I, for one, am all for the ‘partner’ clubs idea. A very cursory look suggests those owners are not operating in that way today. Doesn't mean we couldn't offload players but doesn't seem like a strategy between those clubs currently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted May 14, 2023 Report Share Posted May 14, 2023 3 hours ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: https://www.toffeeweb.com/season/22-23/comment/editorial/43504.html Absolute fuck up. Basically, before any new owner even starts to look at player purchases, wages etc, they need to splash about £1billion?! How the fuck have these people managed to fuck this up so bad? And still they stay in their jobs? Deflecting blame to anyone but themselves? I see a long road ahead. Minimal player investment (probs a good thing, let's focus more on the youth and plucky bargains rather than cast offs from the 'big' clubs). I fear whether we'll own our stadium. One way or another, massive funds are going to be raised against it. Don't forget we already don't own our training ground! Goodison will probably end up sold off rather than the club having and dealings with any redevelopment or sentimental purpose. Dyche and the players really need to avoid relegation. That would be catastrophic for the clubs already disastrous finances. Palfy and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted May 14, 2023 Report Share Posted May 14, 2023 55 minutes ago, Newty82 said: Absolute fuck up. Basically, before any new owner even starts to look at player purchases, wages etc, they need to splash about £1billion?! How the fuck have these people managed to fuck this up so bad? And still they stay in their jobs? Deflecting blame to anyone but themselves? I see a long road ahead. Minimal player investment (probs a good thing, let's focus more on the youth and plucky bargains rather than cast offs from the 'big' clubs). I fear whether we'll own our stadium. One way or another, massive funds are going to be raised against it. Don't forget we already don't own our training ground! Goodison will probably end up sold off rather than the club having and dealings with any redevelopment or sentimental purpose. Dyche and the players really need to avoid relegation. That would be catastrophic for the clubs already disastrous finances. My fear also is do the club sell the new stadium to a property investor for a large sum, and we then end up extortionate leasing agreements. Newty82 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo 2.0 Posted May 14, 2023 Report Share Posted May 14, 2023 I've long stopped being excited for the new stadium. It won't be ours and will be leased back to us at an extortionate cost. It'll be a massive hindrance if anything, especially with the clowns in charge we have running the show. Everything about us is a massive shitshow and it's a long road ahead until that's fixed. Matt and Newty82 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted May 14, 2023 Report Share Posted May 14, 2023 2 hours ago, Palfy said: My fear also is do the club sell the new stadium to a property investor for a large sum, and we then end up extortionate leasing agreements. 53 minutes ago, Zoo 2.0 said: I've long stopped being excited for the new stadium. It won't be ours and will be leased back to us at an extortionate cost. It'll be a massive hindrance if anything, especially with the clowns in charge we have running the show. Everything about us is a massive shitshow and it's a long road ahead until that's fixed. Yep. Not only that but can we really trust these people to get an investment deal that's the best for the club vs themselves? Doubt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted May 14, 2023 Report Share Posted May 14, 2023 4 hours ago, Newty82 said: Don't forget we already don't own our training ground! I thought Moshiri bought it back, it was relatively small value when we sold it to the council. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted May 14, 2023 Report Share Posted May 14, 2023 49 minutes ago, StevO said: I thought Moshiri bought it back, it was relatively small value when we sold it to the council. Still shows as being owned by the council from what I can see. Could be wrong though. StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted May 14, 2023 Report Share Posted May 14, 2023 Not sure where to ask this but guess these fuckers had a role in it. Anyone notice the mad amount of security around the players tunnel at the end of the City game? What's that all about? StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 14, 2023 Report Share Posted May 14, 2023 6 minutes ago, Newty82 said: Not sure where to ask this but guess these fuckers had a role in it. Anyone notice the mad amount of security around the players tunnel at the end of the City game? What's that all about? Apparently it was a trial run for the Bournemouth game in case we go down. Newty82 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted May 14, 2023 Report Share Posted May 14, 2023 11 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: Apparently it was a trial run for the Bournemouth game in case we go down. Do the powers that be genuinely believe the supporters would attack the players, or is it for show to try and justify what’s been said by Kenwright about us to the media. duncanmckenzieismagic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted May 14, 2023 Report Share Posted May 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Palfy said: Do the powers that be genuinely believe the supporters would attack the players, or is it for show to try and justify what’s been said by Kenwright about us to the media. After the Howe incident, probably just being careful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo 2.0 Posted May 14, 2023 Report Share Posted May 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Palfy said: Do the powers that be genuinely believe the supporters would attack the players, or is it for show to try and justify what’s been said by Kenwright about us to the media. I said straight away that it looked like a Bill Kenwright special - probably a security threat after Erling Haaland was put into a headlock outside The Blue Dragon chippy. The security at the end was properly over the top, especially given the mood in the stadium wasn't violent in the slighest. The security at the game has sadly been a joke (at both ends of the spectrum) for as long as I can remember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted May 18, 2023 Report Share Posted May 18, 2023 Lots of rumours flying around that 777 are now on the brink of a complete takeover for £600m https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/everton-sale-farhad-moshiri-takeover-30009537 https://www.goodisonnews.com/2023/05/18/alan-myers-shares-fresh-everton-takeover-update-after-600m-777-partners-development/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 18, 2023 Report Share Posted May 18, 2023 8 minutes ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: Lots of rumours flying around that 777 are now on the brink of a complete takeover for £600m https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/everton-sale-farhad-moshiri-takeover-30009537 https://www.goodisonnews.com/2023/05/18/alan-myers-shares-fresh-everton-takeover-update-after-600m-777-partners-development/ I've got to say I'm a little bit worried about these but I really hope if they do buy us that they instantly get rid of Kenwright et al. Matt and StevO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted May 18, 2023 Report Share Posted May 18, 2023 11 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: I've got to say I'm a little bit worried about these but I really hope if they do buy us that they instantly get rid of Kenwright et al. To be honest, this was inevitable with the way football has evolved over the past 20 years. We're a commodity to be traded, a toy. I lose more and more love for the game with each passing story. Newty82 and Sibdane 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo 2.0 Posted May 18, 2023 Report Share Posted May 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, Matt said: To be honest, this was inevitable with the way football has evolved over the past 20 years. We're a commodity to be traded, a toy. I lose more and more love for the game with each passing story. Thanks for saving me the time in posting - this. I go the game to spend time with my old man. My love for Everton has been killed by both our board and the direction to sport is rapidly heading to. Newty82 and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted May 18, 2023 Report Share Posted May 18, 2023 I just wanna give a little nod to Kenwright, he said we’ve had good times. Well, this season I’ve had the pleasure of supporting Newcastle in a few games, Liverpool last Monday, will be a massive West Ham, Newcastle and Arsenal fan on the weekend. good times indeed. dunlopp9987 and Newty82 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted May 18, 2023 Report Share Posted May 18, 2023 48 minutes ago, Hafnia said: I just wanna give a little nod to Kenwright, he said we’ve had good times. Well, this season I’ve had the pleasure of supporting Newcastle in a few games, Liverpool last Monday, will be a massive West Ham, Newcastle and Arsenal fan on the weekend. good times indeed. Bloody fantastic isn't it? Having to hope for a Redshite win Hafnia 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted May 18, 2023 Report Share Posted May 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Newty82 said: Bloody fantastic isn't it? Having to hope for a Redshite win Need Brighton tonight so it makes Newcastle have to get a result from the Leicester match. Newty82 and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Zoo 2.0 Posted May 18, 2023 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 18, 2023 This whole supporting everyone else in the league is fun but it's costing me a fucking fortune in football shirts. Shukes, Bailey, StevO and 7 others 2 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Romey 1878 Posted May 18, 2023 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 18, 2023 15 minutes ago, Newty82 said: Bloody fantastic isn't it? Having to hope for a Redshite win Nope, I refuse. I only acknowledge that I want whoever they're playing to lose. It is not the same . Goodison Glory, duncanmckenzieismagic, Matt and 2 others 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonsta Posted May 18, 2023 Report Share Posted May 18, 2023 A bit worried what team West Ham will put on Sunday against Leeds after there game in Europe. Having said that its up to us to lay the marker down. COYB Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted May 18, 2023 Report Share Posted May 18, 2023 3 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: I've got to say I'm a little bit worried about these but I really hope if they do buy us that they instantly get rid of Kenwright et al. I'd be shocked if they didn't do their research before buying us and seeing how much most want rid of him(and them), but then again that's just me being hopeful. The first thing they'd need to do is clean house though. Matt and Romey 1878 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted May 18, 2023 Report Share Posted May 18, 2023 4 hours ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: Lots of rumours flying around that 777 are now on the brink of a complete takeover for £600m https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/everton-sale-farhad-moshiri-takeover-30009537 https://www.goodisonnews.com/2023/05/18/alan-myers-shares-fresh-everton-takeover-update-after-600m-777-partners-development/ Mirror article says it hinges on Premier league status so there might be a wait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted May 19, 2023 Report Share Posted May 19, 2023 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65636260 Interesting bit at the end London Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted May 19, 2023 Report Share Posted May 19, 2023 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-12104085/Battle-buy-Everton-takes-turn-MSP-Sports-Capital-confident-complete-deal.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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