MC11 Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 You can predict, for sure, but wouldn't you be just a little pleased on this occasion to be proved wrong? I'd be made up if he turned out a good player. But it's very evident he's not very good. I can only compare him to The Straq. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 The Straq was a god Damn hero! The guy could step on a mine and he would brush it off as just a flesh wound. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 The Straq was a god Damn hero! The guy could step on a mine and he would brush it off as just a flesh wound. Yeh cannon fodder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 always loved stracfacts Matt and Romey 1878 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 I know we all want big things from traore (no pun intended) but unless we have an option to loan for next season I can't see the benefit of signing him if he will take the rest of the season to get accustomed to the pace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodisonRoad Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 Naismith was always played out of position! Nothing even close to a Naismith scenario. The lad is just not very good. When you see a good player you see a good player and for me it's quite easy to see the lad needs a "huge" amount of work to even come close to being a top end premier league player. He was shockingly bad. Laughable how you can judge him after 1 game considering his circumstances. Pointless saying anything more because you've already made your mind up. Bit embarrassing really. markjazzbassist, Matt and Ant1979 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 (edited) http://www.evertonfc.com/news/archive/2014/02/17/traore-more-to-come didnt realise he didnt speak English edit: Just thinking ahead, anyone else thinking we might be getting him on loan again next season? As Romey pointed out, its a weird deal taking on a player with limited match fitness but Im wondering if we are trying to setup up links to Monaco? Edited February 18, 2014 by Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 http://www.evertonfc.com/news/archive/2014/02/17/traore-more-to-come didnt realise he didnt speak English edit: Just thinking ahead, anyone else thinking we might be getting him on loan again next season? As Romey pointed out, its a weird deal taking on a player with limited match fitness but Im wondering if we are trying to setup up links to Monaco? I dont think so... I get the feeling it was just a short term measure to make sure we had another body in the squad and so that we can save our money for a striker (or 2) in the summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 I dont think so... I get the feeling it was just a short term measure to make sure we had another body in the squad and so that we can save our money for a striker (or 2) in the summer.but loan deals can cost a fair bit, and like Mark said he's been brought in in not good shape. I'm sure we could've found a fitter player to loan in to make up bodies, which is why I'm thinking we're making relationships with the rich clubs. Would be a smart move if we are, though I accept a long shot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 Im not sure how much this loan would have cost because they have only just brought him in and obviously think he needs game time. If the club are looking for him to go on loan then the actual cost wont be too high. On the whole I dont think there are too many realistic options and Martinez or his scouts clearly thought that this lad was worth a shout despite his injury. Im only speculating of course but I dont see Monaco looking to sell so quickly after buying him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 send him to that new bloke at Fulham for a week, that should sort him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Droobie Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 I heard out for 5-6 weeks. Can anyone confirm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest blueboy122 Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 What a great bit of business this is turning out to be.. Meanwhile at Hull... Hindsight I know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 I heard out for 5-6 weeks. Can anyone confirm? No, but if he is then I'm going to be mightily pissed off. This sort of thing happening was always a risk when you've brought in an already injured player because, as we all know, when you're coming back from an injury there's always a risk of re-injury or picking up niggling injuries. Silly business getting him in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 No, but if he is then I'm going to be mightily pissed off. This sort of thing happening was always a risk when you've brought in an already injured player because, as we all know, when you're coming back from an injury there's always a risk of re-injury or picking up niggling injuries. Silly business getting him in. I agree Think it was a bit of a panic buy, if only Roberto had done what he said he was going to do in the first place and not let Jelavic go until we had a replacement in.Then I doubt we would ever have taken the risk, Its back fired badly and left us without a CF for the busiest part of the season. Naismith has come in and done a job but he isnt the answer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Droobie Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 I think this signing traore will be a learning curve for Martinez,not to delve into the unknown traore was definitely a panic signing, And I'm sure he will be packing his bags to go back to Monaco before the end of season. Then lucky it's a loan, and not a huge signing that broke the bank.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 Awful awful decision to let Jelavic go to Hull and not have a viable permanent replacement ready. There should be at least £20m spent in the summer with all the player sales this season. I really just don't get the departure of players and not replacing them properly. Not only was this guy injured in the first place he looks an absolutely awful player. Jelavic was no superstar at the end, but by god we could have done with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 Just watched MotD and he looked the business yesterday, I know which one I would prefer being on Evertons books at the moment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 (edited) He looked the business when he first joined us too. What was his record after his initial burst? At the end of the day, he's on of these that makes an initial impact then moves on. 6 clubs in 7 years says that. Edited February 23, 2014 by Newty82 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 He looked the business when he first joined us too. What was his record after his initial burst? At the end of the day, he's on of these that makes an initial impact then moves on. 6 clubs in 7 years says that. He has only had 6 clubs in his entire career so that should read 6 clubs in 12 years, also with stats of 116 goals in 292 appearances I would class him as a consisten scorer, apart from the drought he had with us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 Jelavic never got a chance under Martinez. The first 3 games were poor but it was a breaking in period. It wasn't for the want of his trying things just wernt going for him. I think it was a big mistake letting him go and not replacing will a permanent striker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 He has only had 6 clubs in his entire career so that should read 6 clubs in 12 years, also with stats of 116 goals in 292 appearances I would class him as a consisten scorer, apart from the drought he had with us No it shouldnt read that at all...because I wasnt talking about his whole career. If I was, then it would have said that (to be honest, averaging a club every 2 years is still pretty poor). As it is, in the last 7 years, he has played for 6 different teams. I have no problem with him. He did well for us for 6 months. But then next to nothing for over 12 months. Why would that indicate to any of you that he could make a difference? If he had carried on like he did those first 6 month, or even at 50% of that, then we would have kept him. But he offered nothing anymore...and thats unfortunate. And where do you get 116 goals from? He's got 87 club goals?!!! Plus 5 in 31 for Croatia. Hardly breathtaking. I just dont see the point in pining for something that wasnt all that anyway. Good luck to him though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Guest Posted February 23, 2014 Popular Post Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 I don't get this Jelavic love in all of a sudden. Do people have short memories he was fuckin useless! Couldn't hold a ball up, had no pace, no tricks and crap in the air. He hit the ground running and was found out shortly after. Fuck me we were all gob smacked hull give us that much money for him two months a go Madmatt, Quinn31, Cornish Steve and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 Yes but he's got 3 goals for Hull now Trev...we'd be 4th with that now.... ; )))) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 (edited) No it shouldnt read that at all...because I wasnt talking about his whole career. If I was, then it would have said that (to be honest, averaging a club every 2 years is still pretty poor). As it is, in the last 7 years, he has played for 6 different teams. I have no problem with him. He did well for us for 6 months. But then next to nothing for over 12 months. Why would that indicate to any of you that he could make a difference? If he had carried on like he did those first 6 month, or even at 50% of that, then we would have kept him. But he offered nothing anymore...and thats unfortunate. And where do you get 116 goals from? He's got 87 club goals?!!! Plus 5 in 31 for Croatia. Hardly breathtaking. I just dont see the point in pining for something that wasnt all that anyway. Good luck to him though! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikica_Jelavi%C4%87 Not the most reliable source I know With the exception of his move to Hull every time he has moved its been to a bigger club so he must have been doing something right Oh and Im not pining for him I simply think it was a very poor decision to sell him when we didn't have a replacement in first. It has left us without a forward at a crucial stage of the season and has effectively ended our chances of CL football Edited February 23, 2014 by duncanmckenzieismagic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikica_Jelavi%C4%87 Not the most reliable source I know With the exception of his move to Hull every time he has moved its been to a bigger club so he must have been doing something right Yep. I used the same source. One of us is adding up wrong??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 Ah, I see whats happened. At the top, if you add up the goals it comes to 87...but further down in career stats, it includes cup and euro games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 Yep. I used the same source. One of us is adding up wrong??? yes you are, apology accepted! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 yes you are, apology accepted! Technically I didnt add up wrong....I just didnt realise the very top of the page was league goals only. Therefore, no apology has been exchanged!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubecula Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 Grow some and say sorry BOTH of you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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