nogs Posted April 16, 2016 Report Share Posted April 16, 2016 Of course not, but I've seen far worse unlike many on here, your "devil's advocate" point was spot on, delighted someone finally picked up on it! I salute you. Thank you I've seen far worse, too - the late 90s were horrific. But we'd got past that, and for all the Moyes knockers on here, I'm sorry, he ended that dreadful 8 or 9 years in our history. You want to know why I'm so angry? Because I feel the way I did under Kendall in his third spell and under Smith. We're shit, and I hate it, just like I did then. And we shouldn't be shit. And Martinez calling draws with Crystal Palace and Southampton 'positive results' just makes me want to break things! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted April 16, 2016 Report Share Posted April 16, 2016 Thank you I've seen far worse, too - the late 90s were horrific. But we'd got past that, and for all the Moyes knockers on here, I'm sorry, he ended that dreadful 8 or 9 years in our history. You want to know why I'm so angry? Because I feel the way I did under Kendall in his third spell and under Smith. We're shit, and I hate it, just like I did then. And we shouldn't be shit. And Martinez calling draws with Crystal Palace and Southampton 'positive results' just makes me want to break things! Jeez dude don't diss St Kendall! You'll get as unpopular as me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaiah Posted April 16, 2016 Report Share Posted April 16, 2016 And there you have it. Unforgivable. And why have we suffered our worst season at home in 140 years? Because we have a manager in charge who is desperately out of his depth. No. Argument. He isn't "desperately out of his depth" at all. Semi finals of both cups this season (no other manager did that), and if a few of those absurd 'last minute' results had gone our way we'd be up near the top 4 of the league. Yes,some of the performances have been poor, but earlier in the season some of the performances were pretty awesome and we were very unlucky not to win. You may want someone slightly better than Martinez, and that'd be fair enough, but to suggest Martinez is "desperately out of his depth" is insanity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chach Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 (edited) He isn't "desperately out of his depth" at all. Semi finals of both cups this season (no other manager did that), and if a few of those absurd 'last minute' results had gone our way we'd be up near the top 4 of the league. Yes,some of the performances have been poor, but earlier in the season some of the performances were pretty awesome and we were very unlucky not to win. You may want someone slightly better than Martinez, and that'd be fair enough, but to suggest Martinez is "desperately out of his depth" is insanity. Thats the thing though isn't it, when he said it wasn't all about results but performances, I could kind of see where he was coming from (Klopp has said the same thing this year to far less ridicule) that sooner or later great performances would turn into great results, in our case poor results have turned into a lack of confidence, which has fed into negativity which is producing poor performances and I don't see anyway back for him now, he's persona non grata. He's going to have to go, likely straight after we get knocked out the cup. Edited April 18, 2016 by Chach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubecula Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 I am wondering on whether it is the backroom staff who mess things up. Naah probably not. I have never met him but he is possibly a nice man, BUT his tactics and inability to change are making us suffer. I feel shitty saying it but he needs to be given a tasty talking to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalkpie Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 He isn't "desperately out of his depth" at all. Semi finals of both cups this season (no other manager did that), and if a few of those absurd 'last minute' results had gone our way we'd be up near the top 4 of the league. Yes,some of the performances have been poor, but earlier in the season some of the performances were pretty awesome and we were very unlucky not to win. You may want someone slightly better than Martinez, and that'd be fair enough, but to suggest Martinez is "desperately out of his depth" is insanity. Sounds like you're fine wallowing in mediocrity. Not me, sir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalkpie Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krF80d0n_Cg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 https://twitter.com/evertonfcpics/status/717498517233745920 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 He cannot be allowed to have another year in charge. He just can't. He is fucking soul-destroying. duncanmckenzieismagic, Kev627 and rubecula 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalkpie Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 http://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/apr/16/everton-southampton-premier-league-match-report Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogsy Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 (edited) http://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/apr/16/everton-southampton-premier-league-match-report' They have taken a mere five from the last 27 available on home soil' Nobody can possible justify that this is an acceptable statistic! Edited April 17, 2016 by mogsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 ' They have taken a mere five from the last 27 available on home soil' Nobody can possible justify that this is an acceptable statistic! Don't think I have saw a single person Tey to be honest. MikeO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 He is a dead man walking we will get tonked Wednesday. Then he has the semi which we won't win. dlblue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 Just watched Ranieri's post match interview today and interestingly he said that performance was more important than result. Just saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 Just watched Ranieri's post match interview today and interestingly he said that performance was more important than result. Just saying. I heard him say "our performance 11 v 11 and 10 v 11 was fantastic" nothing about it being more important than the result. He's not that stupid! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn31 Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 "You're getting sacked in the morning" chants, should we lose the semi-final, anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted April 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 Just watched Ranieri's post match interview today and interestingly he said that performance was more important than result. Just saying. Well that's just as daft as the Maldini quote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 I heard him say "our performance 11 v 11 and 10 v 11 was fantastic" nothing about it being more important than the result. He's not that stupid! Watch it again. "...if the score is OK if he doesn't score (re the last minute pen) it doesn't matter because our performance 11v 11, 10 v 11 was fantastic, when the performance is in this way I'm happy, the result is another thing..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 Watch it again. "...if the score is OK if he doesn't score (re the last minute pen) it doesn't matter because our performance 11v 11, 10 v 11 was fantastic, when the performance is in this way I'm happy, the result is another thing..." Easy to say when you're 7 points clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 Context is key. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted April 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 It's also easy to say when your team is actually playing well. Null point either way though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 (edited) If Martinez had Everton 7 points clear with a handful of games I'd be happy with him saying anything! Edited April 17, 2016 by barryj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 Like I said, just saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalkpie Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 Comparing Rainieri and Martinez is like comparing a Ferrari and a broken down '82 Toyota. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 Like I said, just being contrarian. Fixed it for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 Fixed it for you No need to, I'm not going against "popular opinion". Just pointed out that he did say it and then quoting it when Haf said he didn't. Context or contrary is irrelevant, was just stating a fact, people can interpret it how they want but don't judge me for reporting it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chach Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 Comparing Rainieri and Martinez is like comparing a Ferrari and a broken down '82 Toyota. You know he was sacked from his last job for losing to a country with a population of 50,000 right? He got sacked quite a lot, and not for winning things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 You know he was sacked from his last job for losing to a country with a population of 50,000 right? He got sacked quite a lot, and not for winning things. This is true. Some say 'if only we had Raneiri' but actually you would never have picked him before this season as his history is more miss than hit. Has lost several jobs, has never really won anything, has a history of starting well but then falling off. He's done something amazing at Leicester this season and deserves full credit for that. But before this season, well, not a lot to shout about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 We're moving in the right direction ......were now 11th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 http://www.espnfc.us/barclays-premier-league/23/blog/post/2853372/roberto-martinez-and-arsene-wengers-tired-acts-wearing-thin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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