Popular Post StevO Posted April 25, 2016 Popular Post Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 I think we need one home game with him gone. We don't need the players leaving with a completely negative atmosphere in the back of their minds. Get rid ASAP, then let us send them off with a positive memory. If they have the summer thinking how horrible it is at Goodison, and it has been horrible and will be worse on Saturday, I don't think we'll see them all come back. chicagoblue, duncanmckenzieismagic, markjazzbassist and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kankurette Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 I was going to mention the Star, but someone beat me to it. That article didn't pull any punches. It's not wrong though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 I think we need one home game with him gone. We don't need the players leaving with a completely negative atmosphere in the back of their minds. Get rid ASAP, then let us send them off with a positive memory. If they have the summer thinking how horrible it is at Goodison, and it has been horrible and will be worse on Saturday, I don't think we'll see them all come back. That's a really good point. Send the lads off with a thumping atmosphere at Goodison. Could make a few people think about thier future very carefully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagoblue Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 Is he not gone yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 This is the dilema and why I am against booing players. I would hate for players like Barkley to think the fans were against him, we are not. If we force players like him who love the club to leave then it really says something about the state our club is in. WE have to rally round the players without showing support for Martinez, the sooner he goes the better. The board must act on this. markjazzbassist and Kankurette 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kankurette Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 Yep. There are 11 men on the pitch who are not Martinez and need our support too. Fucking hell, Barkley is one of my faves and I'll be so gutted if he leaves. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 Funny thing is a banner saying " thank you Roberto but no " would probably have more of am effect. Telling him to go will make him more determined. Not sure that would be a good thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 Yep. There are 11 men on the pitch who are not Martinez and need our support too. Fucking hell, Barkley is one of my faves and I'll be so gutted if he leaves. I have criticised him so much this year. But I would honestly feel sick if he left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgem123 Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 Nice little dig at Moyes If I had been given 10 years to work with Everton by being mediocre I would not accept that. We are a big club with big expectations and we have not won silverware for 21 years. http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/david-moyes-mediocre-ae-says-11238635 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 I have my opinions on moyes but Martinez can fuck off if he thinks he can slate moyes to defend himself. Moyes defended Martinez the other night on sky... just go roberto. georgem123 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 I have my opinions on moyes but Martinez can fuck off if he thinks he can slate moyes to defend himself. Moyes defended Martinez the other night on sky... just go roberto. Spot on. Shows which of the 2 have class. Roberto blaming everyone but himself on the way out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 Bobby is right in saying we were mediocre in ten years but under him in three we are absolute shite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaidharper Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 Won't lose his job before the end of the season. Already lost the dressing room. Should play youth. They would listen / play for the shirt. But that is logical and he is not. Will instead play senior players out of position. Can't wait for summer. Improvement needed. COYBS!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/david-moyes-mediocre-ae-says-11238635 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogsy Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/david-moyes-mediocre-ae-says-11238635 Fair play, Keys is a massive Knob, but that is actually a sensible offering from him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted April 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 Fair play, Keys is a massive Knob, but that is actually a sensible offering from him! It's an absolutely spot on assessment. Yet the clown is STILL here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 Keys has had his eyebrows done... very mediocre job that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/david-moyes-mediocre-ae-says-11238635 Who is it on here that gets the piss taken out of them for posting links just after someone else has posted the same one???!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 Who is it on here that gets the piss taken out of them for posting links just after someone else has posted the same one???!!! Louis, our glorious leader. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 Louis, our glorious leader. Haha...well Dunc can have a bit of it this time!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 who cares what he says? His opinion is no more relevant to mine. Except he probably plays golf with moyes twice a week in Dubai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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georgem123 Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 (edited) Haha...well Dunc can have a bit of it this time!!! Ah it doesn't really bother me. It just pissed me off to see Martinez taking digs at Moyes when he's done worse with more resources. I don't think Moyes will ever be considered an all time great Everton manager but I think he did a fantastic job at stabilising us after Walter Smith. I also think the foundation he left is the reason why Martinez did so well in his first season so Martinez having a go feels even more scummy. Edited April 25, 2016 by georgem123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chach Posted April 26, 2016 Report Share Posted April 26, 2016 There is absolutely no chance that comment by Martinez was aimed at Moyes, say what you like about him but he's an intelligent man, he's not going to start comparing apples with oranges. Absolutely amazing watching so many grown men and women completely ruled by their emotions. MikeO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Droobie Posted April 26, 2016 Report Share Posted April 26, 2016 In my opinion, Bill needs to follow Roberto out the door. Personally, no one can fault Bill's heart for the club. I don't think anyone can fault Roberto's good intentions either nor his charisma. BUT... We have too much heart and charisma. Really, to get anywhere we need to be a bit more ruthless and down to business. I think Roberto is not feeling any pressure from the top. I think he feels he has the complete backing from Bill - and I can't see Bill doing otherwise. The fans may scream all they want, but if the board is all "It's okay... Uncle Bill understands and supports you" then there's no urgency to change or do things differently. I wonder though, will it change the people's club? How would EitC fare? StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jofanon Posted April 26, 2016 Report Share Posted April 26, 2016 Has he gone yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted April 26, 2016 Report Share Posted April 26, 2016 There is absolutely no chance that comment by Martinez was aimed at Moyes, say what you like about him but he's an intelligent man, he's not going to start comparing apples with oranges. Absolutely amazing watching so many grown men and women completely ruled by their emotions. "If I had been given ten years to work with Everton by being mediocre I would not accept that. We are a big club with big expectations and we have not won silverware for 21 years." Of course it's a dig at Moyes... the clue is in the 10 years.... moyes is the longest tenured manager at a premier league club to not win a trophy. I know you are looking to defend Martinez but come on... That's as clear as daylight To me it says that he knows he's going... hope so anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kankurette Posted April 26, 2016 Report Share Posted April 26, 2016 The road to hell is paved with good intentions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chach Posted April 26, 2016 Report Share Posted April 26, 2016 "If I had been given ten years to work with Everton by being mediocre I would not accept that. We are a big club with big expectations and we have not won silverware for 21 years." Of course it's a dig at Moyes... the clue is in the 10 years.... moyes is the longest tenured manager at a premier league club to not win a trophy. I know you are looking to defend Martinez but come on... That's as clear as daylight To me it says that he knows he's going... hope so anyway. Thanks, but believe it or not I had already considered the quote and the context in which it was made. The clue for you is that Martinez would not consider Moyes achievements to be mediocre in the context that he achieved them, and unless you can direct me to a long line of malicious quotes by him, which you can't, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt on a quote that doesn't even actually make any sense anyway if that's ok with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted April 26, 2016 Report Share Posted April 26, 2016 Thanks, but believe it or not I had already considered the quote and the context in which it was made. The clue for you is that Martinez would not consider Moyes achievements to be mediocre in the context that he achieved them, and unless you can direct me to a long line of malicious quotes by him, which you can't, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt on a quote that doesn't even actually make any sense anyway if that's ok with you. Do what you like, just don't be too frustrated if the people who will give him benefits of doubt are as rare as a Goodison clean sheet. Everything he says nowadays are the desperate ramblings of a man who can't accept his goose is cooked. Pretty awkward to watch through or read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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