Gwlad Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 Ancelotti rumoured to be up for a Prem return next season....just saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 6 minutes ago, Gwlad all over said: Ancelotti rumoured to be up for a Prem return next season....just saying. We'll be in the Championship if this carries on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn31 Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 7 minutes ago, Gwlad all over said: Ancelotti rumoured to be up for a Prem return next season....just saying. Never happening. He will end up at a bigger club. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 Just now, Quinn31 said: Never happening. He will end up at a bigger club. was just going to say this as well. no chance he comes here regardless of compensation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 Sorry but it looks like he hasn't even coached us any particular system. £150m spent.... complete and utter joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn31 Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 Just now, markjazzbassist said: was just going to say this as well. no chance he comes here regardless of compensation. The people who were confident we were going to bust down the top four this year are the same who think Ancelotti and the like are lining up to manage us. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 I'm not, never thought we'd crack the top 4 but if this shite continues Koeman's going to be out and we'll be looking for a manager again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 4 minutes ago, Quinn31 said: The people who were confident we were going to bust down the top four this year are the same who think Ancelotti and the like are lining up to manage us. not to mention you fire him now you have the fine choices of Allardyce, Pardew, Moyes, De Boer, and other of that ilk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 1 minute ago, markjazzbassist said: not to mention you fire him now you have the fine choices of Allardyce, Pardew, Moyes, De Boer, and other of that ilk. No. You could get unsworth in to show what a manager can do with players with a system, an idea, some passion who gets the club. Can't be worse than koeman. Chach 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn31 Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 Just now, markjazzbassist said: not to mention you fire him now you have the fine choices of Allardyce, Pardew, Moyes, De Boer, and other ilk. I don't think Koeman went from being a manager who guided Southampton to 7th and 6th place finishes and taking us from 11th to 7th to a manager who is completely inept, clueless, and incompetent overnight. We went through some major changes this summer and it will take some time to progress and move forward. If we aren't significantly improved by Christmas, I'd be thinking about changing managers, but we've had slow starts before (Moyes...) and gotten better as the year has gone on. Clearly, Williams is past it, Martina is not good enough for anything except Cup matches. We need a #9, some pace out wide, and to strengthen out wide, ideally with pace. All of this in addition to jelling all the new squad members who just arrived this summer. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 Just now, Quinn31 said: I don't think Koeman went from being a manager who guided Southampton to 7th and 6th place finishes and taking us from 11th to 7th to a manager who is completely inept, clueless, and incompetent overnight. We went through some major changes this summer and it will take some time to progress and move forward. If we aren't significantly improved by Christmas, I'd be thinking about changing managers, but we've had slow starts before (Moyes...) and gotten better as the year has gone on. Clearly, Williams is past it, Martina is not good enough for anything except Cup matches. We need a #9, some pace out wide, and to strengthen out wide, ideally with pace. All of this in addition to jelling all the new squad members who just arrived this summer. sanity in the koeman thread, a rarity. i agree with you on the above, sadly the mob has started and i'm sure the koeman out chants will only gather as the year goes on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 I just think he's got it completely wrong here. Forget history at Southampton, here he's having a disaster. I think he'll be gone in the not too distant future he's got it spectacularly wrong on the field and off it. He's alienated good players and brought in the wrong mix. Chach 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 mentioned it so many times; if you gut a team and bring in mass change, expect players to play like strangers. Shukes and EFC-Paul 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memmaclub2 Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 I want him gone tonight it's not the results it's the performances the players at best don't know what they are suppose to be doing and at best don't care. It was the same last season at the treatment of Barkley has ruined him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted September 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 It's fucking shambolic. I feel sick watching us, I really do. pete0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 12 minutes ago, Matt said: mentioned it so many times; if you gut a team and bring in mass change, expect players to play like strangers. There is mass change every week.... called tactics. He is absolutely making it up as he goes along Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 Just now, hafnia said: There is mass change every week.... called tactics. He is absolutely making it up as he goes along So mass change of staff x changing tactics = clusterfuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 2 minutes ago, Matt said: So mass change of staff x changing tactics = clusterfuck Matt.... he has no clear plan. It's as plain as day - the players have no direction at all. More players/less players. Still the same clown coaching them. pete0 and Lowensda 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memmaclub2 Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 Please show me a player he signed and got the best out of I haven't seen 1 Shukes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 3 minutes ago, Harryson said: Please show me a player he signed and got the best out of I haven't seen 1 gueye Paddock, MikeO, MC11 and 4 others 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 6 minutes ago, hafnia said: Matt.... he has no clear plan. It's as plain as day - the players have no direction at all. More players/less players. Still the same clown coaching them. I'm not arguing mate. Tactics changing amongst players who know each other is not as bad as changing tactics amongst strangers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 We don't have the players to play 5-3-2 or 3-4-3 (however you want to describe 3 at the back) and we don't have the players to play 4-2-3-1 so it's reverting back to square pegs in round holes. In the days of Moyes you could almost forgive the square pegs in round holes due to working on a tight budget but, after investing how we did this summer, there's no excuses. Koeman needs to get a settled team and system asap as after Man U we've got a run of must win games - fail to win 5/6 back to back then that's when I think questions will begin to be asked. People maybe asking questions already but actually - based on last season's progression - it would be counter productive at this stage. Lowensda, MikeO and Romey 1878 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memmaclub2 Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 what did koeman do last season that made him so good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post c1982 Posted September 14, 2017 Popular Post Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 Just now, memmaclub2 said: what did koeman do last season that made him so good Improved us defensively, made Goodison a fortress and massively improved the points tally/finishing position compared to the 2 preceding seasons. StevO, markjazzbassist, Quinn31 and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 Please eat humble pie and do what's best for the club. get Barkley back, and get Niasse on the bench at least. The guy is scoring for fun at U23 level. yea it's a different level, but if we can't call for Niasse, then we have no right call for any U23 player. MikeO and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 2 minutes ago, Shukes said: Please eat humble pie and do what's best for the club. get Barkley back, and get Niasse on the bench at least. The guy is scoring for fun at U23 level. yea it's a different level, but if we can't call for Niasse, then we have no right call for any U23 player. again HE IS INJURED. there is no getting back regardless of firing/hiring/new manager Ross will be out til Christmas. FFS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 1 minute ago, markjazzbassist said: again HE IS INJURED. there is no getting back regardless of firing/hiring/new manager Ross will be out til Christmas. FFS I think we're talking about getting Ross back on board mentally/emotionally rather than sticking a crocked lad on the pitch Mark. Guarantee he's as pig-sick as the rest of us fans after the last couple of games. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lowensda Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 Genuine. If the board REALLY want to show ambition Tuchel or Ancellotti would be the perfect solution. They'd have to be sold the 'project' again because they're way above our level currently. pete0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 1 hour ago, Matt said: mentioned it so many times; if you gut a team and bring in mass change, expect players to play like strangers. You did Matt I echoed that to a lesser extent pre season as it was a, slight worry for me but I never thought in a million years we would be this shit ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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