Paddock Posted March 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2017 He really did though, Pad. If for no other reason than he made us extremely narrow against a side who have full-backs that absolutely love to get forward. The way we set up let them have free-reign. Baines had a nightmare against Walker because he was constantly being bombarded. Coleman got it to a lesser extent with Rose being missing. We needed to give them something to think about going the other way but we had nothing. I'm not even sure how he expected us to play on the counter because our fast players were sat on the bench . I get what you're saying mate and it's all about opinions. I just think he wanted to stifle their midfield and stop them playing through the middle and nulify Ali and Erikson. Yes it did leave our full backs exposed but that was how he went about it. I honestly think they would have beaten us no matter what formation he played, they're a good side and are playing really well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted March 12, 2017 Report Share Posted March 12, 2017 I said before the Spurs game most fans can except a loss against a (so called better team) as long as everyone has gone out there and given their all to win the game, and that includes the manager it all started wrongly with Koeman's line up, to try and defend for ninety minutes against a team who have been scoring goals for fun was a decision which handed them the game. Koeman's not a silly man, if most of us who are could see it wasn't the right tactic, I'm sure he has realised the same and we improve and move on. Thing is though, a lot of us, including me, have questioned certain line ups before games and we've won most of them. I don't like the whole 3 attacking players thing, but it's working, so..... It's always easier to say afterwards that it was wrong, this, that, etc. For all we know, we could have gone into it 'as normal' and got smashed 5-0...then it would have been 'we should have been more defensive, a draw was our best hope' etc. You just know it!!! But, really, we know the gap between us and Spurs isn't that much. It's not huge. So as you say, learn, improve, move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted March 12, 2017 Report Share Posted March 12, 2017 The changes were definitely right yesterday and it showed. I wasn't too surprised that Barry started because he wasn't that bad last week but he was getting pulled around as no-one really knew where they should be as we had 4 people who ideally wanted to play in the same spot. You end up second guessing all the time. I was glad to see Jags in as well. There isn't much between him and Mori but the latter is just that little bit more unpredictable and against that West Brom team we didn't need to give them any encouragement because they were poor. I hope this shows to Koeman how he needs to set us up in a 433. He has it sussed in the 352 so now he doesn't have any excuses for the rest of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted March 12, 2017 Report Share Posted March 12, 2017 You would throw in 11 Mirallas's if that was possible. No. I'd start one Mirallas in every game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted March 12, 2017 Report Share Posted March 12, 2017 No. I'd start one Mirallas in every game. But you need the mirrallas who played at West Brown to turn up every time. I'm a big fan of him, but this season I've accepted that he isn't going to reach that level I first thought he would. Matt, Lowensda and MikeO 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted March 13, 2017 Report Share Posted March 13, 2017 A season of Kevin Mirallas. Mirallas starts 3 games, performances drop > benched for two games > comes on as sub in second game and turns game around > gets recall > starts next game, goes missing > benched for two games > comes on as sub in second game and turns game around > gets recall > has a blinder > hits purple patch > Starts in BIG game, goes missing > benched for two games > comes on as sub in second game and turns game around > gets recall > starts next game goes missing > benched for two games > comes on as sub in second game and turns game around > gets recall > hits purple patch > Starts in BIG game delivers > gets injured > 1 month out. MikeO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted March 13, 2017 Report Share Posted March 13, 2017 yeah Lowesenda, seems he's best off the bench as an impact sub with Koeman. His skill set isn't well utilized with Koeman's style, I think he will be sold in the summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted March 13, 2017 Report Share Posted March 13, 2017 A season of Kevin Mirallas. Mirallas starts 3 games, performances drop > benched for two games > comes on as sub in second game and turns game around > gets recall > starts next game, goes missing > benched for two games > comes on as sub in second game and turns game around > gets recall > has a blinder > hits purple patch > Starts in BIG game, goes missing > benched for two games > comes on as sub in second game and turns game around > gets recall > starts next game goes missing > benched for two games > comes on as sub in second game and turns game around > gets recall > hits purple patch > Starts in BIG game delivers > gets injured > 1 month out. Bar his first season, this is Kev every season. That's just the way he is. Probably frustrates the shit out of his managers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted March 13, 2017 Report Share Posted March 13, 2017 I don't get why anyone would think Koeman would just go selling players so willy nilly. Kev is a very useful, but inconsistent, player. He may not be a world beater but he's a good member of the squad by all accounts nowadays, and he will want some consistency as well as squad improvements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted March 13, 2017 Report Share Posted March 13, 2017 There's only been two matches were he wasn't given any game time. Stats wise Mirallas gets a goal or an assist every 148 minutes. In comparison Ross plays a part every 161 minutes. Can see why he's frustrated though as he's only played the full 90 minutes twice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted March 14, 2017 Report Share Posted March 14, 2017 We just look much better with Mirallas off Rom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted March 14, 2017 Report Share Posted March 14, 2017 Yes Mirallas is inconsistent but he is more consistent than anyone else we have in that position and like MC says we look more of a threat with him there. Other than possibly Lookman, he is the only one that can do nothing all game and pop up with a bit of skill or shot to get us a goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted March 14, 2017 Report Share Posted March 14, 2017 I think that's part of the problem Bailey, I don't think football managers, and particularly the Premiership game, these days can tolerate a 'do nothing then pop up' type of player. He's still useful mind. I wouldn't sell him unless he wanted to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted March 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2017 I like Mirallas and I prefer it when he plays. All players of his ilk frustrate like that, it's just part of what they are. Matt and Sibdane 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted March 14, 2017 Report Share Posted March 14, 2017 Yes Mirallas is inconsistent but he is more consistent than anyone else we have in that position and like MC says we look more of a threat with him there. Other than possibly Lookman, he is the only one that can do nothing all game and pop up with a bit of skill or shot to get us a goal.That's why I'd think about subbing Barkley before him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted March 14, 2017 Report Share Posted March 14, 2017 I think that's part of the problem Bailey, I don't think football managers, and particularly the Premiership game, these days can tolerate a 'do nothing then pop up' type of player. He's still useful mind. I wouldn't sell him unless he wanted to go. But every other player we have in that position is the same. If we had solid 7/10 players every game then Mirallas should be on the bench but we don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted March 16, 2017 Report Share Posted March 16, 2017 After some turbulent days, really good, honest, strong words from the manager. markjazzbassist and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted March 16, 2017 Report Share Posted March 16, 2017 his response to the first question is hilarious. this quote on romelu was key "i'm not worried, he has 2 more years on the contract, he must respect that". his response on ross was spot on basically saying "shit or get off the pot". you have a contract, sign it, or you could be sold this summer. he said it's not an ultimatum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted March 16, 2017 Report Share Posted March 16, 2017 After some turbulent days, really good, honest, strong words from the manager. I'm starting to really like him, bar the fact he doesn't say "us" as much as I'd like. But his response has given a lot of hope and deserves an equal amount of respect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted March 16, 2017 Report Share Posted March 16, 2017 I'm starting to really like him, bar the fact he doesn't say "us" as much as I'd like. But his response has given a lot of hope and deserves an equal amount of respect Just starting to really like him?! Ha, hard to please! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted March 16, 2017 Report Share Posted March 16, 2017 Just starting to really like him?! Ha, hard to please! learnt the hard way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted March 16, 2017 Report Share Posted March 16, 2017 learnt the hard way Ah yes. Very true!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 Adrian Durham speaking highly of Koeman on TalkSport. Says that if Everton had gotten him a season earlier, with the way the yop sides just stalled, who knows what might have happened. Nah he is too arrogant and doesn't give kids a chance ......... looks for the sarcastic as fuck emoji Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 http://royalbluemersey.sbnation.com/2017/3/31/15144078/ronald-koeman-trolls-martin-oneill-with-tweet-burn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 Love this manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted April 1, 2017 Report Share Posted April 1, 2017 Well played koeman, that's up there with the soton empty pitch tweet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rusty747 Posted April 1, 2017 Report Share Posted April 1, 2017 My favourite is after we beat Man City 4-0 and Guardiola was saying that the result wasn't a true reflection of the game as City had something like 60% possession. Ronald's response "You would expect to have a lot of possession if you have to kick off 5 times in the same match!" Sibdane and MikeO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted April 1, 2017 Report Share Posted April 1, 2017 My favourite is after we beat Man City 4-0 and Guardiola was saying that the result wasn't a true reflection of the game as City had something like 60% possession. Ronald's response "You would expect to have a lot of possession if you have to kick off 5 times in the same match!" Fucking love the man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted April 1, 2017 Report Share Posted April 1, 2017 Shit his pants. Again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted April 1, 2017 Report Share Posted April 1, 2017 Let's hope he rebounds lineup wise for united. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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