StevO Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 On 02/10/2022 at 11:27, Palfy said: I thought he did alright to be honest we dominated the game in MF and the fact we did that without him having to run around headless for me proves that a Gana who is more focused and controlled in his duties is better for the team as a team, if not so eye catching for himself. No, no, no. It proves his old manager here wanted him to chase the ball, his current manager doesn’t. Surely that’s obvious to you now? Palfy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 55 minutes ago, StevO said: No, no, no. It proves his old manager here wanted him to chase the ball, his current manager doesn’t. Surely that’s obvious to you now? Thank fuck for new management Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 23 minutes ago, Palfy said: Thank fuck for new management Thank fuck we agree! Palfy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 No wonder PeteO hasn't resurfaced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted October 5, 2022 Report Share Posted October 5, 2022 10 hours ago, Gwlad all over said: No wonder PeteO hasn't resurfaced. What’s he and mjb up to? On another forum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted October 20, 2022 Report Share Posted October 20, 2022 He started well again yesterday but he faded badly and his recovery effort and concentration was shocking at times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted October 20, 2022 Report Share Posted October 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Bailey said: He started well again yesterday but he faded badly and his recovery effort and concentration was shocking at times. Still a hell of a lot better than Onana. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elston Gunnn Posted October 20, 2022 Report Share Posted October 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Bailey said: He started well again yesterday but he faded badly and his recovery effort and concentration was shocking at times. 21 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: Still a hell of a lot better than Onana. I’m in favor of dropping both Gana and Onana for the Palace match, and starting Garner and Davies or Doucouré. Use Davies as DCM, Garner and Iwobi as ACMs. If Doucouré rather than Davies, I’m not sure Doucouré is capable of sticking to a sitter/DCM role, as he’s a wanderer. So if it were to be Doucouré and Garner, perhaps Garner sits and protects, allowing Doucouré and Iwobi to attack. Both Iwobi and Doucouré are energetic enough to defend, too. Re Gana/Onana, I’m a bit more hopeful that Onana will come good as the season progresses. I worry that Gana thinks he’s a box-to-box player, and even more worried that Lampard thinks that, too. Although Gana seems somewhat less likely than in his previous years at Everton to run all over the pitch, he still ventures too far forward, even though as an attacker he has few skills, and when too far forward is out of position as DCM. He should sit and protect the back 4, only rarely venturing forward much past midfield. He needs to do fewer things, and concentrate a helluva lot more on taking few risks and protecting the back 4, not to mention protecting the ball. Matt and Romey 1878 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted October 20, 2022 Report Share Posted October 20, 2022 8 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: Still a hell of a lot better than Onana. I think they are both much of a muchness but at least Onana has a bit of an excuse of being younger and new to the league. As a new dynamic midfield, it isn't really working out how we had hoped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elston Gunnn Posted October 20, 2022 Report Share Posted October 20, 2022 2 hours ago, Bailey said: As a new dynamic midfield, it isn't really working out how we had hoped. Yes, pretty frustrating just now. Not as bad as our “strikeforce,” but hardly dynamic, either. Iwobi’s done the best, obviously. I prefer Lampard keep Iwobi, but replace the 2 underperformers with Garner and either Davies or Doucouré. We need hungry players in midfield on Saturday. And competence in the front 3. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted October 22, 2022 Report Share Posted October 22, 2022 Back to his usual self today, like a few of his team mates. London Blue, plaidharper and Romey 1878 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted October 23, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2022 On 20/10/2022 at 09:50, Elston Gunnn said: I’m in favor of dropping both Gana and Onana for the Palace match, and starting Garner and Davies or Doucouré. Use Davies as DCM, Garner and Iwobi as ACMs. If Doucouré rather than Davies, I’m not sure Doucouré is capable of sticking to a sitter/DCM role, as he’s a wanderer. So if it were to be Doucouré and Garner, perhaps Garner sits and protects, allowing Doucouré and Iwobi to attack. Both Iwobi and Doucouré are energetic enough to defend, too. Re Gana/Onana, I’m a bit more hopeful that Onana will come good as the season progresses. I worry that Gana thinks he’s a box-to-box player, and even more worried that Lampard thinks that, too. Although Gana seems somewhat less likely than in his previous years at Everton to run all over the pitch, he still ventures too far forward, even though as an attacker he has few skills, and when too far forward is out of position as DCM. He should sit and protect the back 4, only rarely venturing forward much past midfield. He needs to do fewer things, and concentrate a helluva lot more on taking few risks and protecting the back 4, not to mention protecting the ball. Isn’t hindsight a wonderful thing ! StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elston Gunnn Posted October 23, 2022 Report Share Posted October 23, 2022 1 hour ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: Isn’t hindsight a wonderful thing ! It’s possible Lampard knows more than I. Understand, I’m not conceding he does, just admitting the possibility. I will continue to fret each time Gana Gueye acts the ACM rather than the DCM, and will continue to (1) curse the heavens each time he advances even so much as one step ahead of Iwobi/Onana, and (2) advise Frank both pre- and in-match. I do like Frank and will not, should our boys lay an egg in some upcoming match, call for his head, nor even utter the phrase, “Frank’s lost the plot.” StevO, Wiggytop, plaidharper and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted November 2, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2022 https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/it-hurt-me-idrissa-gueye-25416160 Sibdane and Romey 1878 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elston Gunnn Posted November 21, 2022 Report Share Posted November 21, 2022 Gana Gueye is playing ACM for Senegal today v. Netherlands. Also taking their free kicks; not so good. I don’t know ...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elston Gunnn Posted November 21, 2022 Report Share Posted November 21, 2022 I have been a Gana Gueye critic, and pretty regularly these days, but I will credit him with a cracker of a strike attempt from outside the box. Netherlands goalie had to make an excellent parry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted February 19, 2023 Report Share Posted February 19, 2023 I noticed Gana had a fair few motm votes, he did catch the eye a few times, both positive and negative, whilst I wholeheartedly appreciate his positives in the game, I can't discount his negatives of 2-3 very poor back passes that if we were playing a half decent team could have easily resulted in goals, therefore for those reasons I could no way brush them under the carpet and give him motm, if he hadn't made those poor errors then I would have definitely considered him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggytop Posted February 19, 2023 Report Share Posted February 19, 2023 I thought he had generally a good game, after the bad start with a horrible back pass, as we know he has errors in him and I always think there’s one coming. He did do some excellent shielding of the ball yesterday, maybe he will shine under Sean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodison Glory Posted February 19, 2023 Report Share Posted February 19, 2023 He also nutmegged someone in the box and then laid a perfect cut back for Onana. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted February 22, 2023 Report Share Posted February 22, 2023 Whenever I was able to concentrate on the game, he was everywhere. It was a really positive performance and sure, it wasn't perfect but his energy, along with that of Onana and Doucoure, was key to the result. Shukes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted March 2, 2023 Report Share Posted March 2, 2023 I'm ecstatic that Dyche shamed the moron for his fuck up by subbing him at half time. I hope he tore him to shreds in front of the team when he explained to him that he wouldn't be appearing for the second half as well. A player of his experience fucking daydreaming that close to his own penalty area is unacceptable. KinL, Palfy, Matt and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted March 2, 2023 Report Share Posted March 2, 2023 Agree. It was literally what we train kids football. Keeping playing and let the red decide when to stop. Absolute playground stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted March 2, 2023 Report Share Posted March 2, 2023 Dyche will learn the hard way that you don't want Gana anywhere near the penalty area in possession of the ball, or challenging for the ball in or around the penalty box. He is the most dangerous player on the pitch when in possession of the ball, not to the opposition but to his own team. Matt, KinL and Wall Writer 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted March 3, 2023 Report Share Posted March 3, 2023 Dyche isn’t stupid. He saw what happened on that match. 40 minute’s of competition be away to the leagues leaders. Schoolboy mistake and pulled off. Total collapse. He will be playing Sunday. plaidharper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hafnia Posted March 3, 2023 Popular Post Report Share Posted March 3, 2023 4 hours ago, Shukes said: Dyche isn’t stupid. He saw what happened on that match. 40 minute’s of competition be away to the leagues leaders. Schoolboy mistake and pulled off. Total collapse. He will be playing Sunday. For dyche to take a player off at half time says “I’m fucking fuming with you”. The collapse had nothing to do with gana being off the pitch, it was because his blunder when he was on it completely took the gas out of us. I would play James Garner on Sunday with Doucoure and Onana. Palfy, Matt, StevO and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted March 3, 2023 Report Share Posted March 3, 2023 6 hours ago, RPG said: I hope you are correct and that Gueye hasn't spat the dummy at being (quite rightly) subbed at half time. On his day he is a real asset to the team but we can't afford any more cock ups like the last one from him. I never thought of that to be honest. If he has after that, then I agree completely he should be dropped. I would like to think that being a senior player he would take it and own it, but you just don’t know with pro footballers anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted March 3, 2023 Report Share Posted March 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Hafnia said: For dyche to take a player off at half time says “I’m fucking fuming with you”. The collapse had nothing to do with gana being off the pitch, it was because his blunder when he was on it completely took the gas out of us. I would play James Garner on Sunday with Doucoure and Onana. It started from his mistake of course, but it definitely did make an impact on the rest of the game. That second half wasn’t a couple of brain farts, it was us hanging on for dear life. We looked lambs to the slaughter. The only shock was they didn’t score more goals. If you’re right and that goal destroyed us completely…. Then we have much deeper problems than we could have ever imagined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaidharper Posted March 3, 2023 Report Share Posted March 3, 2023 3 hours ago, Hafnia said: For dyche to take a player off at half time says “I’m fucking fuming with you”. The collapse had nothing to do with gana being off the pitch, it was because his blunder when he was on it completely took the gas out of us. I would play James Garner on Sunday with Doucoure and Onana. Is he ready though? Anyone watch the u21 game? All I know is the scoreline and it was a 3-0 loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted March 3, 2023 Report Share Posted March 3, 2023 48 minutes ago, plaidharper said: Is he ready though? Anyone watch the u21 game? All I know is the scoreline and it was a 3-0 loss. He played 70 odd minutes and Dyche said he's very close to a first team return now. Probably be on the bench Sunday I reckon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted March 3, 2023 Report Share Posted March 3, 2023 3 hours ago, Shukes said: It started from his mistake of course, but it definitely did make an impact on the rest of the game. That second half wasn’t a couple of brain farts, it was us hanging on for dear life. We looked lambs to the slaughter. The only shock was they didn’t score more goals. If you’re right and that goal destroyed us completely…. Then we have much deeper problems than we could have ever imagined. That has been a long standing issue, we seen that bs Brighton, we seen it vs Villa, we seen it vs Liverpool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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