Cornish Steve Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 Why does it need to be public? He doesn't. And such naivete just reduced whatever fee we hope to get for him. I feel rather bad for Niasse, since he's really had little opportunity to prove himself. He doesn't deserve all this negativity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 Name one Matt. Niasse has not been given a squad number. What can you tell us about his future at Everton? Go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 He doesn't. And such naivete just reduced whatever fee we hope to get for him. I feel rather bad for Niasse, since he's really had little opportunity to prove himself. He doesn't deserve all this negativity. He brought a lot of it upon himself for getting arrested for assault, as well as being very poor when he had the chance. chicagoblue and nutmegwolf203 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 Name one Matt. Niasse has not been given a squad number. What can you tell us about his future at Everton? Go Name one what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 Name one what? Think he means how should he of answered. I really don't get people being updet by this, he's not been given a number what else could he say. He wished himluck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 Think he means how should he of answered. I really don't get people being updet by this, he's not been given a number what else could he say. He wished himluck. Aaaah "We're discussing with Oumar about his future and possibilities". Not "he's shit and we're trying to get rid of him" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 Aaaah "We're discussing with Oumar about his future and possibilities". Not "he's shit and we're trying to get rid of him" He didn't say that though did he, he said he's not the type of player we're after in that position or something similar. I've forgot what he said now after all that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 (edited) I don't have an issue with him answering a question honestly, it does seem a bit cold, but then so was not giving him a squad number. And that wasn't even like he took it off him for someone else, he took it off him and just left it unused. That's a quiet dig at him, at least this shows a bit of context. Edited August 11, 2016 by StevO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 Name one Matt. Niasse has not been given a squad number. What can you tell us about his future at Everton? Go Were looking Into that right now. We want what's best for the club and the player and will make a decision accordingly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 Were looking Into that right now. We want what's best for the club and the player and will make a decision accordingly. The decisions made he never got a squad number nor has he been registered so he's clearly being shipped out.. To be fair it was a stupid question to ask as it's blatantly onvious seeing as he's not even registered in thesquad. Anything other than an honest answer leaves Koeman looking like a liar imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 Assuming he has spoken to Niasse about it before now (which I am certain he would have) then I don't see what the issue is. The guy isn't going to play for us this season and therefore he needs to leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 The decisions made he never got a squad number nor has he been registered so he's clearly being shipped out.. To be fair it was a stupid question to ask as it's blatantly onvious seeing as he's not even registered in thesquad. Anything other than an honest answer leaves Koeman looking like a liar imo. Does that count for the others that don't have squad numbers too? I think there ate better ways to do it that don't involve lying.....like my answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Isaiah Posted August 11, 2016 Popular Post Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 Christ almighty, the over-reactions in here are bizarre, you'd think Koeman had said "He hasn't been given a squad number because I don't want that shower of shit anywhere near the stadium, lest the aura of absolute footballing wankness that he exudes infects the players. Fuck him and every single one of his relatives. Next question..." He was asked a question, he answered it plainly and succinctly, without any bullshit. For Christ's sake Niasse has come from a league where he was making comparatively little money and in half a year he's been made a millionaire several times over by Everton for doing almost nothing. His signing on fee alone will have been more than most of us will make in our entire lifetimes. And yet some of you now are feeling sorry for him because Koeman didn't pussyfoot around with words? You're worried the 'spirit of Everton' is being lost because a manager spoke plainly? You're worried he might have 'upset Niasse's friends in the squad'? Nonsense. What would upset me if I were a hard working player would be the Martinez approach, of molly-coddling people who aren't pulling their weight (while publicly chastising someone like Baines for having the balls to speak his mind). Koeman was not classless and he was not cold, he was merely behaving like a proper manager. In any walk of life, in any successful business, that style works. You want 'nice kind Everton', fine, but then don't complain when we win fuck all for 21 years. Sibdane, efc1111, EFC-Paul and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 (edited) It does seem a little cold, but I also appreciate the honesty. I feel bad for Niasse -- it's not his fault that roughly 14MM was spent on him, and I really don't think he's been given a fair shot, BUT it's pretty easy to tell where he is based off of his cameos. Edited August 11, 2016 by TonkaRoost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 Isaiah...calm down friend. No one is overeacting, people are just discussing how they feel about it. If it was me I would be disappointed. As a professional I would have expected Ronny to he able to handle a question like that better...that's all. Not gonna pop round his house with the boys or anything....yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 Koeman was not classless and he was not cold, he was merely behaving like a proper manager. In any walk of life, in any successful business, that style works. You want 'nice kind Everton', fine, but then don't complain when we win fuck all for 21 years. My place of work is successful and i am very lucky...it seems....to have a manager who can promote people, sack people, discipline people, while keeping it on a professional level and not feeling the need to hurt a person just for no real gain at all. Like I say, I must be very lucky. EFC-Paul 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 Christ almighty, the over-reactions in here are bizarre, you'd think Koeman had said "He hasn't been given a squad number because I don't want that shower of shit anywhere near the stadium, lest the aura of absolute footballing wankness that he exudes infects the players. Fuck him and every single one of his relatives. Next question..." He was asked a question, he answered it plainly and succinctly, without any bullshit. For Christ's sake Niasse has come from a league where he was making comparatively little money and in half a year he's been made a millionaire several times over by Everton for doing almost nothing. His signing on fee alone will have been more than most of us will make in our entire lifetimes. And yet some of you now are feeling sorry for him because Koeman didn't pussyfoot around with words? You're worried the 'spirit of Everton' is being lost because a manager spoke plainly? You're worried he might have 'upset Niasse's friends in the squad'? Nonsense. What would upset me if I were a hard working player would be the Martinez approach, of molly-coddling people who aren't pulling their weight (while publicly chastising someone like Baines for having the balls to speak his mind). Koeman was not classless and he was not cold, he was merely behaving like a proper manager. In any walk of life, in any successful business, that style works. You want 'nice kind Everton', fine, but then don't complain when we win fuck all for 21 years. yep, I am worried. It's not an overreaction, it's a response based on what I've read. If you want heartless bastards that don't give a shit about the feel of the club and want to buy the title, there's a club across the park for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 Does that count for the others that don't have squad numbers too? I think there ate better ways to do it that don't involve lying.....like my answer. He wasn't asked about the others though mate and if he wasn't asked that question he wouldn't of mentioned it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 But no one seems to mention that he wishes him good luck?! I don't understand what I've just been reading. I think it's going to be a case of those who feel unsure about Koeman will look for anything slightly negative to ping him in the forehead with. Personally, I read the comment and thought 'yeah, that's obvious'. I didn't read anything else into it. efc1111 and Romey 1878 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 But no one seems to mention that he wishes him good luck?! I don't understand what I've just been reading. I think it's going to be a case of those who feel unsure about Koeman will look for anything slightly negative to ping him in the forehead with. Personally, I read the comment and thought 'yeah, that's obvious'. I didn't read anything else into it. its preseason newts, you know how it drives people mad around here (me especially), i think we're all so desperate for football its resorted to this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 its preseason newts, you know how it drives people mad around here (me especially), i think we're all so desperate for football its resorted to this. We're nearly there Gents. Couple more days!!! markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 Koeman was not classless and he was not cold, he was merely behaving like a proper manager. In any walk of life, in any successful business, that style works. You want 'nice kind Everton', fine, but then don't complain when we win fuck all for 21 years. My place of work is successful and i am very lucky...it seems....to have a manager who can promote people, sack people, discipline people, while keeping it on a professional level and not feeling the need to hurt a person just for no real gain at all. Like I say, I must be very lucky. Does your manager regularly hold press conferences where he's asked questions about his employees? chicagoblue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 He wasn't asked about the others though mate and if he wasn't asked that question he wouldn't of mentioned it. Was more asking of you would be happy of he said the same about Garbutt etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 My place of work is successful and i am very lucky...it seems....to have a manager who can promote people, sack people, discipline people, while keeping it on a professional level and not feeling the need to hurt a person just for no real gain at all. Like I say, I must be very lucky. Does your manager regularly hold press conferences where he's asked questions about his employees? He's pretty much hounded everyday about employees etc....so yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 Does your manager regularly hold press conferences where he's asked questions about his employees? He's pretty much hounded everyday about employees etc....so yes. how is elstone these days? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 how is elstone these days? You leave my bob alone, Dave! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 A friend of mine recently inherited a collection of classic cars from his dad. There are the usual models, including some from the heydays of British industry, but also some more unusual foreign makes. My friend's tastes are quite different from his dad's, so he's been selling some cars and using the funds to buy others. There's one vehicle in particular that he doesn't find attractive at all, even though his dad had been impressed. He quietly mentioned that he'd like to get rid of it and was hoping to use the proceeds to move into a bigger house - something his wife's been dreaming of for some time. An ideal house, it seems, had just come on the market and might be snapped up soon. I must confess that Lady Luck was beginning to favour him.Well, things took a rather unfortunate turn last week. At a dinner party hosted by another motor enthusiast, his wife loudly informed a local journo that her husband could barely stand to look at this particular car and couldn't wait to get rid of it. And, of course, she told him all about the new house and just how perfect things were going to be. This journo passed the news along to a couple of buyer friends of his, who'd been looking for something a little unusual in their price bracket. Usually such models cost a packet, but here was a motivated seller! The next day, one of them showed up on my friend's doorstep and offered him 20 grand in cash. My friend was rather taken aback since everyone in the business knew that his dad had paid 5x that for it "Why would I sell you this wonderful car for a fraction of what it's worth?" The response stole all bargaining chips from him. "Well, your wife made clear to everyone last night that you'll never drive it, can't stand the sight of it, and can't wait to get rid of it. And you need the funds immediately so you don't lose out on that new house, right?" The last I heard, the wife was still sulking - days after her husband had pointed out how much her loose tongue had cost them. The new house turned out to be nothing more than a passing dream. Shame really, but such is life. The world is full of naive individuals who just can't resist telling others information that comes back to bite them. I suppose it makes them feel important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 Watch the interview. The whole interview. And see if you still feel pissed off. It's on YouTube. Koeman is asked about Stones, Kone, Bolasie, Jags, Lukaku and Niasse. He just gives answers. Much about nothing boys. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 Does your manager regularly hold press conferences where he's asked questions about his employees? He's pretty much hounded everyday about employees etc....so yes. So no press conferences then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 Was more asking of you would be happy of he said the same about Garbutt etc. Yes!! I want him to be truthful so I know where we stand. I don't want any more bullshit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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