duncanmckenzieismagic Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 On the other hand, Koeman has more or less told Barkley he can go and spent nearly £70m on two replacements that look utter shite. He offered him a very good new contract , he hasn’t exactly shown him the door Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogs Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 2 minutes ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: He offered him a very good new contract , he hasn’t exactly shown him the door Barkley turned down the contract, presumably because he thought he deserved more money, or had his agent in his ear telling him he did anyway. Which is par for the course with modern footballers. Apparently Ali has just done the same at Spurs. I haven't heard Pochettino come out and say 'I'd prefer to have players who want to play for the club' though. I don't think insinuating a player wants to leave when he has never said anything to that effect helps anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 daft cunt? Keeping lukaku??? Yeah could really do with his leadership, hard work, tenacity, I'm sure he would have been fully up for the cause. You could always depend on him to put in a shift when all those around him weren't.... I fear your beloved Bill was involved in the sanction dunc. The daft cunt wasn’t aimed at you it was aimed at whoever signed off on selling him We could do with his goals and his presence up front , we could do with a focal point to our play, we could do with an out ball I must be hitting a nerve if you are reverting to you’re Buffon Union stance about “ my beloved Bill” If Bill signed off on it he is a daft cunt , if Moshiri signed off on it he is also a daft cunt If you can’t see were missing him then IMO you are a very silly person [emoji12] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 2 hours ago, hafnia said: daft cunt? Keeping lukaku??? Yeah could really do with his leadership, hard work, tenacity, I'm sure he would have been fully up for the cause. You could always depend on him to put in a shift when all those around him weren't.... I fear your beloved Bill was involved in the sanction dunc. We sure could use his goals tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 32 minutes ago, Paddock said: Yes Haf, the reason we have scored practically no goals is we haven’t replaced him- it’s no coincidence since he left we’ve practically scored nothing. I know that stick in your throat but we miss Lukaku- fucking deal with it mate! We are shit, but it's not because we miss him, it's because we never replaced him plus the fact everybody is playing shit. A new broom will sweep clean, and we need one urgently. Shukes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 Now the mayor has jumped into the fray. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/10/15/ronald-koeman-admits-everton-difficult-situation-aftermayor/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev627 Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 Part of the problem is he can't see anything wrong with only drawing to Brighton &HA. "We know we can play better but the commitment and belief was really positive,". Bollocks. For 89 minutes we couldn't score and only managed a goal because Rooney didn't mess up the penalty! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 7 minutes ago, Bill said: We are shit, but it's not because we miss him, it's because we never replaced him plus the fact everybody is playing shit. A new broom will sweep clean, and we need one urgently. Replaced him/miss him- it’s exactly the same thing Bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 1 hour ago, Cornish Steve said: ...our lowly position (which tomorrow could be in the relegation zone) Picky but no it couldn't be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 Lukaku is a player who must be motivated. If he'd stayed, he would be pining for a Champion's League team no matter how we were doing. In the mess we're in, I doubt he'd show any motivation at all. Despite missing his goal-scoring abilities, I doubt he'd make much difference at the moment. Plus, we're just not set up to support a front man right now - no speed or width or, for that matter, space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 If we'd have bought a top striker we wouldn't have missed him, you think we miss him cos he scored goals, he wouldn't have scored any more than Rooney has, it's because of how the team is set up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 2 minutes ago, MikeO said: Picky but no it couldn't be. You're right. I'd forgotten about the change in Stoke's goal difference after getting hammered yesterday by City. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 55 minutes ago, Paddock said: Yes Haf, the reason we have scored practically no goals is we haven’t replaced him- it’s no coincidence since he left we’ve practically scored nothing. I know that stick in your throat but we miss Lukaku- fucking deal with it mate! How many chances have we missed? We ain't creating so what is he there to do? Far far far bigger issues in our side than his exclusion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 51 minutes ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: He offered him a very good new contract , he hasn’t exactly shown him the door He offered him a very good contract??? He spent the latter part of 2016 slating him in the press and telling them that his contract will get discussed next year.... As at march he acknowledged that the contract negotiations hadn't been started and by may he was issuing ultimatum. Shock horror..... the lad has looked elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 All roads lead to koeman..... all roads. Get him out the club and quick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 He offered him a very good contract??? He spent the latter part of 2016 slating him in the press and telling them that his contract will get discussed next year.... As at march he acknowledged that the contract negotiations hadn't been started and by may he was issuing ultimatum. Shock horror..... the lad has looked elsewhere. Yes Haf he was offered a very good contract , not too sure which part of that statement you are struggling to understand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 How many chances have we missed? We ain't creating so what is he there to do? Far far far bigger issues in our side than his exclusion. If all Lukaku was just a finisher like you say then I would agree with you but for me he was more than that Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 2 minutes ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: Yes Haf he was offered a very good contract , not too sure which part of that statement you are struggling to understand Says who? You have to take the word of the person talking to the press - and it most certainly isn't Ross Barkley. Shukes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 It's crazy to suggest that with all the money he spent since Lukaku left, that some think that we are in this position because we lost Lukaku, and not because Koeman bought poorly and his tactics are woeful, yes I do agree that Lukaku is sorely missed but even he would struggle in this team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 36 minutes ago, MikeO said: Picky but no it couldn't be. Saved by one goal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 Does anyone really believe he wasn't offered a new one under Martinez? The club have mishandled Stones, Lukaku, and more than likely Barkley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 3 minutes ago, Palfy said: Saved by one goal I did say it was picky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 2 minutes ago, pete0 said: Does anyone really believe he wasn't offered a new one under Martinez? The club have mishandled Stones, Lukaku, and more than likely Barkley. I agree when you add it up we would be considered a selling club, for all Moshiri's bravado about how much money he's going to put in the club, we only buy once we've sold, bet he was pissed off when Barkley walked away from the Chelsea deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 6 minutes ago, MikeO said: I did say it was picky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 1 hour ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: Yes Haf he was offered a very good contract , not too sure which part of that statement you are struggling to understand Not struggling to understand anything.... I think you are.... how do you think the contract offer went down? "hey Ross...... I know I've done nothing but slag you off in the press.... anyway... that contract that you've been waiting on that's been delayed.... well here it is. Sign it next week or get sold" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 1 hour ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: If all Lukaku was just a finisher like you say then I would agree with you but for me he was more than that Ok fair enough... he was a finisher who spent international breaks telling the media how he needed to move away.... he was a finisher who had the touch of Harvey Weinstein. He was a finisher who didn't work very hard for the side.... he was a finisher who lost a ridiculous amount of headers.... But he was a finisher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 Not struggling to understand anything.... I think you are.... how do you think the contract offer went down? "hey Ross...... I know I've done nothing but slag you off in the press.... anyway... that contract that you've been waiting on that's been delayed.... well here it is. Sign it next week or get sold" Your right I’m struggling to see your point , is that you back tracking ? Either he was offered or a contract or he wasn’t , no gray area here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 11 minutes ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: Your right I’m struggling to see your point , is that you back tracking ? Either he was offered or a contract or he wasn’t , no gray area here Lets say you have a daughter who goes out with a bloke who does nothing but criticise her.... he comes to you and asks for her hand in marriage. You gonna say yes are you??? Of course not. Will it make any difference when you tell him that all he does is criticise her and his response is "well I've asked her to marry me" Nope. Doesn't wash. And Barkley' s situation has stunk since the get go. We miss him more than koeman would like to admit. Cornish Steve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 Lets say you have a daughter who goes out with a bloke who does nothing but criticise her.... he comes to you and asks for her hand in marriage. You gonna say yes are you??? Of course not. Will it make any difference when you tell him that all he does is criticise her and his response is "well I've asked her to marry me" Nope. Doesn't wash. And Barkley' s situation has stunk since the get go. We miss him more than koeman would like to admit. Is that your way of saying yes he was in fact offered a contract ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 2 minutes ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: Is that your way of saying yes he was in fact offered a contract ? Typical nonsense from you dunc. Offering him a contract is irrelevant.... the balloon headed buffoon was picking on thd lad to the extent that koeman himself stated that the player had raised a grievance to it. Phil Neville of all people felt the need to speak out - don Hutchison. Others did. In the words of koeman...... "I pick on the player even though others have been worse, he hates this criticism..... but ok ill offer him a contract quite late in the day" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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