MikeO Posted April 3, 2022 Report Share Posted April 3, 2022 ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted April 3, 2022 Report Share Posted April 3, 2022 Hard one for me. Arguably our best two players made the biggest mistakes. I am not sure anyone else really put their neck on the line for it. Maybe Holgate given what he had to adapt to during the game and the goal? Again his mistake leading to the first goal though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggytop Posted April 3, 2022 Report Share Posted April 3, 2022 Iwobi, looked like a decent position for him to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted April 3, 2022 Report Share Posted April 3, 2022 13 minutes ago, Bailey said: Hard one for me. Arguably our best two players made the biggest mistakes. I am not sure anyone else really put their neck on the line for it. Maybe Holgate given what he had to adapt to during the game and the goal? Again his mistake leading to the first goal though. Same issue for me. Iwobi was walking away with MOTM until that stupid mistake. Now don't really know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badaids Posted April 3, 2022 Report Share Posted April 3, 2022 I think this was the first game I have seen Iwobi apply a bit of thought and awareness to his game. A shame about the clusterfuck, but I hope he can keep this up as he created a lot of problems for the west ham midfield and defence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted April 3, 2022 Report Share Posted April 3, 2022 Iwobi the only one out there with his heart in it, Richarlison did try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted April 3, 2022 Report Share Posted April 3, 2022 Going for Richarlison. His finishing was woeful…. But again the effort and desire was there. Iwobi was up there but lost a point for a dreadful error. Holgate was an absolute surprise today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted April 3, 2022 Report Share Posted April 3, 2022 I’m going with Iwobi his first half was exemplary, and a couple of mistakes second half, but still the better player out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted April 3, 2022 Report Share Posted April 3, 2022 Iwobi cos he showed he cares and worked his arse off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted April 3, 2022 Report Share Posted April 3, 2022 Iwobi - everything good from us came from him. Poor mistake but he hustled after it and tried to rectify it. More than what we’ve seen from others over the years. Hafnia 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted April 4, 2022 Report Share Posted April 4, 2022 Can’t give a MOTM to a player that ultimately cost us a point being ridiculous by being lackadaisical. Problem is there weren’t many other stand out performers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted April 4, 2022 Report Share Posted April 4, 2022 27 minutes ago, barryj said: Can’t give a MOTM to a player that ultimately cost us a point being ridiculous my lackadaisical. Problem is there weren’t many other stand out performers. Normally I would agree but.... We are in a place where too many players are hiding. Iwobi struggles with confidence and he has stood up to the plate and the challenge of the manager. We have a group of individuals where too many don't want to be the man who makes the mistake. I can't give MOTM to a player who "played it safe" - after all that's what Keanes pass was....... "oh there's Richie in acres, if I make a 20 yard pass to him we are on the break!..... no sod that, there's alex 10 feet away ill just fire this at him even though there is no one for him to pass to" c1982 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BedfordBlue Posted April 4, 2022 Report Share Posted April 4, 2022 Don't understand all the votes for iwobi he cost us the game and completely lost the plot after the mistake . I'm baffled barryj 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted April 4, 2022 Report Share Posted April 4, 2022 5 minutes ago, BedfordBlue said: Don't understand all the votes for iwobi he cost us the game and completely lost the plot after the mistake . I'm baffled he didn't lose the plot though - he carried on working his backside off. Downing tools is something his team mates generally do (and he himself has done) Maybe everyone should do a dcl and just look at everyone else to do the work, whilst everyone else is looking at everyone else to do the work..... which essentially is why we are where we are. Felt for Iwobi and I'm glad lampard defended him cos he looks a very good option in midfield at the stage we are. We need players to be brave and work for each other - not hide and pass the buck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BedfordBlue Posted April 4, 2022 Report Share Posted April 4, 2022 8 hours ago, Hafnia said: he didn't lose the plot though - he carried on working his backside off. Downing tools is something his team mates generally do (and he himself has done) Maybe everyone should do a dcl and just look at everyone else to do the work, whilst everyone else is looking at everyone else to do the work..... which essentially is why we are where we are. Felt for Iwobi and I'm glad lampard defended him cos he looks a very good option in midfield at the stage we are. We need players to be brave and work for each other - not hide and pass the buck. For 10 minutes after the howler he gave the ball away every time he touched it trying too hard to make up for his mistake. We looked the more likely to win that game after the equaliser until his howler sorry I can't give man of the match to the guy that cost us the game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted April 4, 2022 Report Share Posted April 4, 2022 Got to stand up for the lad, sure he made a mistake but by god his heart was in it. Hafnia 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BedfordBlue Posted April 4, 2022 Report Share Posted April 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, Gwlad all over said: Got to stand up for the lad, sure he made a mistake but by god his heart was in it. No doubt he ran his socks of and would have been mom if it wasn't for that mistake but for me that mistake was massive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted April 4, 2022 Report Share Posted April 4, 2022 Equally Jordan's made howlers but been MOTM just for keeping us in the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted April 4, 2022 Report Share Posted April 4, 2022 9 minutes ago, BedfordBlue said: For 10 minutes after the howler he gave the ball away every time he touched it trying too hard to make up for his mistake. We looked the more likely to win that game after the equaliser until his howler sorry I can't give man of the match to the guy that cost us the game He did go very much into his shell right away but at least he did pull himself out of it too. There are plenty of times where he has completely disappeared with far smaller mistakes. Sadly that is a positive for this side these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BedfordBlue Posted April 4, 2022 Report Share Posted April 4, 2022 12 minutes ago, Gwlad all over said: Equally Jordan's made howlers but been MOTM just for keeping us in the game. Don't remember many howlers from Pickford this season maybe a couple of times he could have done better but no howlers MikeO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted April 4, 2022 Report Share Posted April 4, 2022 1 hour ago, BedfordBlue said: No doubt he ran his socks of and would have been mom if it wasn't for that mistake but for me that mistake was massive. That mistake was very costly it can’t be denied it’s there for all to see, but should every time a midfielder gives up possession in the opponent’s half we should expect a goal to come from it, I would say no we shouldn’t we would expect our defence to nullify the threat but ours at that moment in time had switched off and were all over the place, and that can’t be laid at Iwobi’s door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted April 4, 2022 Report Share Posted April 4, 2022 Holgate done well stepping into midfield and also getting a goal. Silly foul on the edge of the box. But I gave MOTM to him. Sorry but Iwobis mistake is inexcusable. How a professional premier league footballer can miscrontrol the ball like that is beyond me. Flashbacks of Gerrard career ending slip. It’s just poor very very poor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted April 4, 2022 Report Share Posted April 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Gwlad all over said: Equally Jordan's made howlers but been MOTM just for keeping us in the game. Not impressed with him laughing and joking with fabianski at final whistle btw. Pisses me off that shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted April 4, 2022 Report Share Posted April 4, 2022 2 hours ago, Hafnia said: Not impressed with him laughing and joking with fabianski at final whistle btw. Pisses me off that shit Jordan has learned to compartmentalise and turn off emotion at the final whistle. Sports psychologists have been pushing this for years and years. Can’t analyse when upset, so being calm will help. And besides, this things make lovely memes. I’ve been working on this for a couple of months myself. I used to take my work home in my head, and Everton results too. I don’t want to have that negatively impact on my family. So work switches off at 5:15, I take the time on my own after Everton games to get rid before I see my wife and daughter, in that time I stay off Twitter and TT. I’m just like Jordan Pickford Hafnia, barryj and Bailey 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted April 5, 2022 Report Share Posted April 5, 2022 I do that to SteveO. Usually takes me about six and a half days! Then I’m happy again. Bailey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted April 5, 2022 Report Share Posted April 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Shukes said: I do that to SteveO. Usually takes me about six and a half days! Then I’m happy again. And then repeat after another loss Shukes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted April 5, 2022 Report Share Posted April 5, 2022 8 hours ago, StevO said: Jordan has learned to compartmentalise and turn off emotion at the final whistle. Sports psychologists have been pushing this for years and years. Can’t analyse when upset, so being calm will help. And besides, this things make lovely memes. I’ve been working on this for a couple of months myself. I used to take my work home in my head, and Everton results too. I don’t want to have that negatively impact on my family. So work switches off at 5:15, I take the time on my own after Everton games to get rid before I see my wife and daughter, in that time I stay off Twitter and TT. I’m just like Jordan Pickford A heavy bout of depression, seeing people getting their lives destroyed, people losing loved ones also helps put things into perspective. just a job isn’t it. the flip side of it is that to many fans - Everton is all they have in their lives… it is their life. For me, the players need to save their jovial socials for inside the tunnel or whatever. Not asking them to fall on their knees crying but to maybe not look as though they feel ok about losing. StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted April 5, 2022 Report Share Posted April 5, 2022 2 hours ago, Hafnia said: A heavy bout of depression, seeing people getting their lives destroyed, people losing loved ones also helps put things into perspective. just a job isn’t it. the flip side of it is that to many fans - Everton is all they have in their lives… it is their life. For me, the players need to save their jovial socials for inside the tunnel or whatever. Not asking them to fall on their knees crying but to maybe not look as though they feel ok about losing. I know what you mean, and felt the same. Just had to try to let it go when I realised it’s not just me it effects. So when I was annoyed seeing Pickford have a little giggle with Moyes after the game I had to just laugh it off thinking he’ll probably sign for them when we go down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted April 6, 2022 Report Share Posted April 6, 2022 On 05/04/2022 at 06:52, Shukes said: I do that to SteveO. Usually takes me about six and a half days! Then I’m happy again. Just to let everyone know… I’ve had a good start to the week and feel happy again the last hour or so! COYBs! Palfy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted April 6, 2022 Report Share Posted April 6, 2022 11 minutes ago, Shukes said: Just to let everyone know… I’ve had a good start to the week and feel happy again the last hour or so! COYBs! Pleased for ya mate, should be even better in a couple of hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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