Romey 1878 Posted April 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2014 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/roberto-martinez-wont-sell-everton-7050984 pete0 and Ant1979 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted April 30, 2014 Report Share Posted April 30, 2014 I can't wait to see what Roberto has up his sleeve for next season! The summer transfer window is going to be exciting. Lowensda and Ant1979 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2014 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-fc-academy-show-summer-7167072? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted June 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/martinez-we-will-develop-players-30377969.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 And why wouldn't you want Martinez as a manger, if you were an up and coming English talent? He's got it spot on. Love his attitude. The type of players i'd like us to go for! I bet attracting them wouldn't be an issue, it'll be the premium they cost. £32m for Shaw at present!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 And why wouldn't you want Martinez as a manger, if you were an up and coming English talent? He's got it spot on. Love his attitude. The type of players i'd like us to go for! I bet attracting them wouldn't be an issue, it'll be the premium they cost. £32m for Shaw at present!! I read 40m this morning! http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2666337/Luke-Shaws-40m-price-tag-rocks-Manchester-United-Southampton-bid-England-ace.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 That's ludicrous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoof_It_Nev Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 £40m is just what Southampton would have to get to part with him though - he's not for sale so the high price tag will reflect that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest blueboy122 Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 Worlds gone mad. Shaw has had a good solid season and his first full season as a pro. The money being thrown round is ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 Worlds gone mad. Shaw has had a good solid season and his first full season as a pro. The money being thrown round is ridiculous. Completely agree. What do you value a young player whos had a solid season at? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 There is no way in the world that a LB is worth that amount of money. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vranny Posted June 26, 2014 Report Share Posted June 26, 2014 Although Bale started off as a young left-back at Soton and look at his value now. But the reality is if Soton don't really want to sell then they're well within their rights to charge ludicrous amounts for the lad, and I think that's what's going on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 26, 2014 Report Share Posted June 26, 2014 Although Bale started off as a young left-back at Soton and look at his value now. But the reality is if Soton don't really want to sell then they're well within their rights to charge ludicrous amounts for the lad, and I think that's what's going on here. Im pretty sure 20 years ago you could just say "not for sale at any price" and that was the end of it. Might even still be the case, but teams putting stupid transfer fees on players isnt for that, its to say "just in case you're stupid enough, give us this". Toffee_in_LA, Romey 1878 and Sibdane 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted June 26, 2014 Report Share Posted June 26, 2014 Although Bale started off as a young left-back at Soton and look at his value now. But the reality is if Soton don't really want to sell then they're well within their rights to charge ludicrous amounts for the lad, and I think that's what's going on here. There is quite a vast difference between Shaw and Bale though at that age. Not to mention that Shaw has never really suggested that he can play in an attacking position. He has played LM for Soton a couple of times and looked uncomfortable to me. If Bale was still just a LB there is no way he would be worth quarter of what Madrid paid. Quinn31 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn31 Posted June 26, 2014 Report Share Posted June 26, 2014 There is quite a vast difference between Shaw and Bale though at that age. Not to mention that Shaw has never really suggested that he can play in an attacking position. He has played LM for Soton a couple of times and looked uncomfortable to me. If Bale was still just a LB there is no way he would be worth quarter of what Madrid paid. This precisely. Bale and Shaw are completely different players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 27, 2014 Report Share Posted June 27, 2014 There is quite a vast difference between Shaw and Bale though at that age. Not to mention that Shaw has never really suggested that he can play in an attacking position. He has played LM for Soton a couple of times and looked uncomfortable to me. If Bale was still just a LB there is no way he would be worth quarter of what Madrid paid. My memory isnt great but I remember Bale looking good at LB, less so at LW then excellent in the centre. Shaw has shown he can attack plenty of times for me, but his strength is similar to Baines; run at then 1-2 running past. Dont agree at all with the transfer fee (though understand Southampton saying that) but Shaw will be a quality, quality player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest blueboy122 Posted June 27, 2014 Report Share Posted June 27, 2014 Completely agree. What do you value a young player whos had a solid season at? Completely agree. What do you value a young player whos had a solid season at? Good question Matt. In my mind £1-3M In reality I think £3-8M is fair but still excessive. £30M is beyond my comprehension for a young lad with a first full season under his belt. Players only need to have one solid season and there being valued at £30M it's ludicrous. On the basis of these transfer fee's surely I have got to be worth £5M...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest blueboy122 Posted June 27, 2014 Report Share Posted June 27, 2014 There's no positives for anyone with transfer fees like this. Our young players feel to much pressure. They are vastly over paid and lose a lot of motivation. Inflates the market for everyone and almost becomes impossible for clubs like us to strengthen. Every English player has an extra £££ on top purely because there English clubs won't pay what the seller wants because ability doesn't reflect price just reflects that they are English and are professional footballers thus enabling that player not being able to continue development even when he's not playing at his current club. Madness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest blueboy122 Posted June 27, 2014 Report Share Posted June 27, 2014 Also it isn't even good for Southampton. Every players value that there after has now doubled because that club knows Southampton have a pot of money and could end up playing way over the odds for average players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 27, 2014 Report Share Posted June 27, 2014 There is no way in the world that a LB is worth that amount of money. we were quoting 30m for Baines 12 months ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted June 27, 2014 Report Share Posted June 27, 2014 My memory isnt great but I remember Bale looking good at LB, less so at LW then excellent in the centre. Shaw has shown he can attack plenty of times for me, but his strength is similar to Baines; run at then 1-2 running past. Dont agree at all with the transfer fee (though understand Southampton saying that) but Shaw will be a quality, quality player. I dont doubt that Shaw will be a very good player, he certainly has the potential but how much better is he really going to be than someone like Clyne or Chambers who were playing RB for Soton. When he played Soton, Clyne was immense and Shaw was forgettable. There is no value in the Shaw transfer whatsoever and its a bit of a middle finger to the FFP regulations. If I had the choice of the Baines at Wigan in the prem (im guessing 22-24) or Shaw now, I would still take Baines everyday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-fc-roberto-martinez-keen-7411493 Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubecula Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 interesting read Romey. I like the bit where he says he is going after Lukaku too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 Doesn't even mention ledson or green...seems we have an exciting few years ahead academy wise markjazzbassist, Matt and Romey 1878 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 I'm happy that we will see some players coming through. However this is not a transitional season. That was last year. I just hope that all the talk of youngsters getting a chance isn't a reflection of how many players we are likely to bring in. We need players with experience and quality if we are going to be blooding youth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 I wonder what he means by "Shane Duffy is in a slightly different category"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 Yeh picked up on that myself. He did say pre-season would be make or break for Duffy a month or so back. I think he's going to have one last look at him and if he's not impressed he'll move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 I wonder what he means by "Shane Duffy is in a slightly different category"? It means he will be sold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn31 Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 (edited) It needs to be determined whether Duffy is good enough... If he is, we either need to 1. get him actual playing time this year, 2. Loan him out to a PL club (a Championship loan won't do it frankly)... If he isn't, he should be sold or loaned out until his contract expires in May (I believe he has one year left). *Edit* It will be interesting to see how Garbutt, Ty Browning could get involved, even if they are determined to be good enough given that Garbutt is our third choice left back (a position that doesn't really need to be rotated... Frankly, we could struggle to get Oviedo enough time, much less Garbs), and Browning given that he's behind Coleman at rightback and 4-5 other players at centerback. Edited July 12, 2014 by Quinn31 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 It needs to be determined whether Duffy is good enough... If he is, we either need to 1. get him actual playing time this year, 2. Loan him out to a PL club (a Championship loan won't do it frankly)... If he isn't, he should be sold or loaned out until his contract expires in May (I believe he has one year left). *Edit* It will be interesting to see how Garbutt, Ty Browning could get involved, even if they are determined to be good enough given that Garbutt is our third choice left back (a position that doesn't really need to be rotated... Frankly, we could struggle to get Oviedo enough time, much less Garbs), and Browning given that he's behind Coleman at rightback and 4-5 other players at centerback. i think they'll all see time in the domestic cup competitions. league cup and FA cup first 2 matches or so against pub league sides we can probably rest the starters and have browning and garbutt play. i doubt we want another oviedo leg break in some worthless league cup match again. put the youngsters in until we play some real competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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