Hafnia Posted June 28, 2014 Report Share Posted June 28, 2014 I think he's building a midfield around Barkley. Cleverly is a shrewd choice but yes pricing needs to be right. That lot have just blown £30m on a full back, we can't subsidise that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted June 28, 2014 Report Share Posted June 28, 2014 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-plot-lure-tom-cleverley-7341517 Toffee_in_LA and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 Regarding the Europa cup I don't think we will need a first team selection until say the quarter finals I know it's a big shout but I expect to get to at least the semi finals and possibly win it it's our best route to the champions league. Sounds like the attitude we seem to have to the League Cup, and look how that's turned out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 Regarding the Europa cup I don't think we will need a first team selection until say the quarter finals I know it's a big shout but I expect to get to at least the semi finals and possibly win it it's our best route to the champions league. If we go into it with that attitude there is absolutely no way we will make it out of the group stages. We should start with our strongest possible line up and once we have qualified play the kids/fringe players in the remaining games otherwise there was no point qualifying in the first place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 (edited) Depends on how things are going in the league who we've brought in how fit the lads are and so on there are to many variable's to make that assumption. In theory I agree with what You and Romey are saying so I'd go with the middle ground and play a strong side containing some of the more capable and likely to play a part in the future younger lads but only if they are upto it. We have a good but relatively small group which I'm sure Martinez will add quality and numbers to so let's wait and see Edited June 29, 2014 by EFC-Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 If you think Martinez will play the 1st 11 in this competition in the early stages you are wrong. So if we are playing malmo on the Thursday and liverpool on the sun you expect him to play the strongest team against malmo ? I honestly think that if Malmö was in the prem they wouldnt get relegated. They would be down there but i think they would surprise you Patto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 I honestly think that if Malmö was in the prem they wouldnt get relegated. They would be down there but i think they would surprise you Patto Was going to say I think Malmo's a poor example of "weak" opposition; they've got a better European pedigree than us and have been to a European Cup final! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 (edited) For £3m would gave no problem with him coming in and giving it a go. Anything more we are taking a huge risk because I haven't seen anything outstanding from him. I think he's lightweight, slow and as said above a floater. For £3m would have no problem with him coming in and giving it a go. Anything more we are taking a huge risk because I haven't seen anything outstanding from him. I think he's lightweight, slow and as said above a floater. Edited June 29, 2014 by MiguelCotto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 Was going to say I think Malmo's a poor example of "weak" opposition; they've got a better European pedigree than us and have been to a European Cup final! They are currently playing a really good football too and if any swedish team is going to have a good run in europe its Malmö (unfortunatly) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 Obviously Van Gaal doesn't see him in the Mancs future plans? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 If you think Martinez will play the 1st 11 in this competition in the early stages you are wrong. So if we are playing malmo on the Thursday and liverpool on the sun you expect him to play the strongest team against malmo ? Moyes always used to take the competition seriously , what makes you so certain that Martinez will be any different? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_E Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 malmo was just an example peter sorry if I offended any of our members. I couldn't remember some of the crap teams we played when last in the competition. Half of Everton's 4 European runs in the last 20 years were ended before they even got started by Dinamo Bucharest and Standard Liège... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 Personally, I'd be happy with Cleverley. Until his recent bouts with injury, he was a very good player with a lot of potential. He's taken a lot of stick recently but not reacted negatively. Martinez knows him from the past and will be able to get the best out of him. He could turn out to be a real bargain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuie Hayllor Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 The positives are that he is a tidy footballer (never going to do what Ross does but still tidy non the less) and has potential to get better. The fact Berto rates him speaks volumes. He isn't injury prone like Gibbo and being English and young if he finds form again like so many players have with us his resale value can rocket. For the right price it makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peoman7 Posted July 8, 2014 Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 Even though Galloway is being reported to be in the next 24hrs, it's already complete. Cleverly is the next player to sign after Greg Okeefe announces Galloway joins tomorrow. Barry was completed last week, delay for announcement was due to the fee with City, we paid a small compensation but not the full 2m as we threatened legal action. Cleverly next Quinn31, markjazzbassist and Toffee_in_LA 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 8, 2014 Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 (edited) I'm going to be unbearable over the next few days! I can feel hysterical laughter coming on already. Edited July 8, 2014 by Romey 1878 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peoman7 Posted July 8, 2014 Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 I honestly think he will thrive under Martinez, technically he is sound but he just coasts through games he needs to up it if he joins us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peoman7 Posted July 8, 2014 Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 *when not if Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 8, 2014 Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 I honestly think he will thrive under Martinez, technically he is sound but he just coasts through games he needs to up it if he joins us Once I've got the meltdown out of my system and he's playing for us I'll be fine . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted July 8, 2014 Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 I've uturned a little on this. I agree with Joe' , I think he'll do well for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 8, 2014 Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 I've uturned a little on this. I agree with Joe' , I think he'll do well for us. And then there were two... Marco, we stand alone. We are not for turning! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted July 8, 2014 Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 I'm pleased. A bit of TLC, out the gazing eye of the prawn butty brigade who think every young player to come through the ranks need to be scholes or Beckham and he will be absolutely fine. He's a one and two touch player who will really do well under Roberto. Good signing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted July 8, 2014 Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 Fuckin right romey...he's a useless cunt...but will get my full backing if he plays in our colours! Just hope he proves me wrong and we don't spend more than the taxi fare Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted July 9, 2014 Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 I'm pleased. A bit of TLC, out the gazing eye of the prawn butty brigade who think every young player to come through the ranks need to be scholes or Beckham and he will be absolutely fine. He's a one and two touch player who will really do well under Roberto. Good signing. Fully agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuie Hayllor Posted July 9, 2014 Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 I like him, a simple tidy player who will let Barkley flourish. He will also benefit from Gaz Barry's experience. I really hope we sign him Matt and Toffee_in_LA 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted July 9, 2014 Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 I think its quite ironic if we get him, they bought a £27m midfielder off us who typifies a non footballing style (physicality, aerial ability) and they were considered a footballing side. It then turns out that a player who received an undue amount of criticism despite being highly rated by the likes of SAF and Martinez as a proper footballer has to leave to revive his career... in short we could end up getting a gem on the cheap here chaps. Try not to pay too much attention to the "hype" of Cleverely being so bad, he really isn't. Toffee_in_LA, nutmegwolf203 and Matt 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted July 9, 2014 Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 This is exactly the type of signing that spells out "Stagnate". He's a good mid table player at best. He'd do well at Hull like Huddlestone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted July 9, 2014 Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 So anyone who thinks he is bad is following hype? I think he's shit cos I've watched him consistently play shit and offer nothing...no hype has influenced my opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted July 9, 2014 Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 This is exactly the type of signing that spells out "Stagnate". He's a good mid table player at best. He'd do well at Hull like Huddlestone. This is the type of signing thats spells out what is wrong with the so called top 4. Young players built up and knocked down before they have actually developed into a player. The lad had to actually close down his twitter account due to abuse from his own fans. People making petitions about him, Carricks Q&A being hijacked by fans using it as an opportunity to slate Cleverly. Its completely insane that humans are treated like this. The likes of Barkley, McCarthy would probably get the same level of treatement off that lot for not being Paul Scholes. Horrible fans. I really hope the lad proves them wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NyarkosLeftToe Posted July 9, 2014 Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 I was gutted when we signed McCarthy (and a little with Barry) last season and he was my favourite player, when I first heard we were after Cleverly I got the same feeling. This time I'm going to trust the manager and see what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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