Lowensda Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 Always said that a team should have an industrious winger and a technically sound one. Lennon is the industrious one. We need a technically sound one on the other side to compliment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 Ok. Didn't realise you weren't a fan to be honest. He's been 50/50 so far. What's he had? 4 games? And hadn't played much at all for a while? It's an open book for me. I'm a fan of these pacey wingers. Always have been. That's him set his benchmark for future performance ' s! I'm not not a fan of him either tbh! When we signed him I said if he could have an end product then he'd be exactly what we've been crying out for - he's got pace to burn and he's a tricky bastard. The problem with him is that his balls into the box either usually go right over everyone or just out of play. Yesterday, he did show that he could have an end product - that pull back for Barkley was absolutely perfect. And, like you said, he won the penalty too. So I have some hope with him now. A winger or two in the summer is an absolute must for us, so he's got to put everything in until the end of the season to show he should be one of those. He's on the right track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 Lets be honest he is like a lesser version of Theo Walcott. Thats no criticism. Pace causes teams problems simple as that, it makes them alter their defensive line, teams can't press as high with him as an outlet - even if they though "ah he's got no end product" they can't take that chance. Yesterday was a prime example of that. His team mates thoroughly appreciated what he gave to the team. He made the opponents look sluggish and invited ill timed tackles. People say that "If Lukaku was a striker with a great first touch and could hold up play etc etc, he would be out of our price bracket and wouldn't come to us" The same logic can be applied to Lennon. If he had a consistent end product and was a goalscorer he would be in the Arjen Robben, Frank Riberi category and would cost £40m+. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 Didn't he also provide the assist for Barkley's goal? So two assists. Earnt a penalty Provided the run that got a player sent off and also would have had another assist if not for it being cleared off the line. Not too bad for a player with no end product ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rusty747 Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 Atsu got the assist with Barkley's goal but I agree with your sentiments. Thete is a bit of the Trevor Steven style about him, but with more pace and not quite such a good finish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 Played very well yesterday. Still struggling to beat a man and crossing is poor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rusty747 Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 Agreed. I think he has earned a start at QPR and it is then up to him to keep his place. But more of the same would do me just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 Didn't he also provide the assist for Barkley's goal? So two assists. Earnt a penalty Provided the run that got a player sent off and also would have had another assist if not for it being cleared off the line. Not too bad for a player with no end product ;-) As said, it was Atsu. And as I said earlier; one game changes nothing. If he does it consistently then it does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 As said, it was Atsu. And as I said earlier; one game changes nothing. If he does it consistently then it does.His work rate is consistent, that's something at least Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 Ahh my mistake. Still a very good game from him though. Hope he can get a run going now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rusty747 Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 If he can get some consistent form going then he could be the catalyst for a mid table finish. If we go on a run I think 50 points is possible which might just be enough for tenth. I really can't see us doing any better than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 http://www.bluekipper.com/news/9-players_news/8049-shattered_lennon_-_starting_right_was_so_important.html "I'm shattered to be honest. I haven't moved in the dressing room for the last 10 minutes. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 http://www.bluekipper.com/news/9-players_news/8049-shattered_lennon_-_starting_right_was_so_important.html This is the point I made, the lad had barely played for Spurs and match intensity is something else - he needs games. He will be better for that game no doubt. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted March 19, 2015 Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 If only Mirallas had his work rate. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted March 22, 2015 Report Share Posted March 22, 2015 More end product from the lad today. I'm closer to changing my mind about him. His work rate had been top notch again as well. My one fear about signing him permanently would be whether he'd dona Pienaar; play out of his skin when on loan due to having something to prove and then take it easy once he'd got his move. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted March 22, 2015 Report Share Posted March 22, 2015 More end product from the lad today. I'm closer to changing my mind about him. His work rate had been top notch again as well. My one fear about signing him permanently would be whether he'd dona Pienaar; play out of his skin when on loan due to having something to prove and then take it easy once he'd got his move. Don't think he's that sort of player tbh. Still not convinced by him. He was invisible for a lot of the game. Definitely wouldn't be paying the reported £8m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted March 22, 2015 Report Share Posted March 22, 2015 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/roberto-martinez-hails-everton-winger-8897680 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted March 22, 2015 Report Share Posted March 22, 2015 (edited) http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/roberto-martinez-hails-everton-winger-8897680 On the Echo site, when they quote Martinez after games, you'll notice win=no comments. Lose=comments. Edited March 22, 2015 by Newty82 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted March 23, 2015 Report Share Posted March 23, 2015 On the Echo site, when they quote Martinez after games, you'll notice win=no comments. Lose=comments. Its the red echo. Disgrace of a paper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/everton/11491086/Tottenham-tell-Everton-Aaron-Lennon-transfer-will-cost-6million.html Considering that's how much we paid for Kone, I think he would be worth every penny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/everton/11491086/Tottenham-tell-Everton-Aaron-Lennon-transfer-will-cost-6million.html Considering that's how much we paid for Kone, I think he would be worth every penny Seems a couple of million too much for someone who'll be in their final year of their contract and isn't wanted by their club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Seems a couple of million too much for someone who'll be in their final year of their contract and isn't wanted by their club. Considering they paid £3m for Pienaar in his last 6 months of his contract at the age of 28 when he was playing his best football they are being somewhat cheeky. Typical of Spurs though. I'd say give us £4m + Lennon and you get Mirallas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makis Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 4m + Lennon, what? More like 8m + Lennon exactly because Lennon only has a year left on his contract, because he's not part of their plans & Mirallas is better. duncanmckenzieismagic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 4m + Lennon, what? More like 8m + Lennon exactly because Lennon only has a year left on his contract, because he's not part of their plans & Mirallas is better. Their contracts expire at the same time don't they? either way there seems to be a premium for English players (dunno why) - plus the way I see it is this - if Spurs put Lennon on the market for £6m there would be plenty of teams ready to snap him up. The same can be said for Mirallas - if we put him up for £10m we would get a buyer - much more than that and some teams will hold off till Jan when they can sign him on a pre contract agreement. It will be the right amount give or take a couple of million. Plus I think teams do know that Mirallas is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makis Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Trouble is, Lennon does not replace Mirallas and we 4 million doesn't help in finding one. So if the choices are Lennon + 4m or, say, 10 million straight cash for Mirallas, I'd go with the second option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 With the new FA ruling on homegrown players sell mirallas and get Lennon. We can get yarmolenko or konoplyanka for the other wing and then sign some filler for reinforcements. Give ossie a one year deal he's still useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Trouble is, Lennon does not replace Mirallas and we 4 million doesn't help in finding one. So if the choices are Lennon + 4m or, say, 10 million straight cash for Mirallas, I'd go with the second option. when you say Lennon doesn't replace Mirallas that is dependant on opinion. They have different attributes. Lennon is by far the better team player, he sets an excellent example and gives us a good bit of balance with Coleman being able to get up and down. Mirallas is the more technically competent - by far. But he also has a bad tendancy to "not be interested" and to be greedy. Right now this team needs a Lennon - quite clearly. He's been a breath of fresh air when it appears that the team needed some positivity, You can see the players love him and the fans will too. Mirallas unfortunately has ended his time with us in a pretty disappointing fashion. The team needs that togetherness reinstilling and Lennon can help that. A must buy at £6m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 We can get yarmolenko or konoplyanka for the other wing and then sign some filler for reinforcements. You say that like if we were to move for either one that it'd be nailed on they'd come here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Liverpool are after that yarmalenko I believe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 You say that like if we were to move for either one that it'd be nailed on they'd come here. higher wages and transfer fee usually can persuade anyone. Also not playing in a war zone helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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