chalkpie Posted August 23, 2016 Report Share Posted August 23, 2016 You don't need to be hated to win things, nobody hated Leicester last season, nobody hated us in the eighties (Liverpool aside). Not keen on the tweet, don't see the point of it. Agreed. This seems a bit out-of-character for a bloke who seemingly has a lot of class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 23, 2016 Report Share Posted August 23, 2016 I'm sure Koeman will rub me up the wrong way with the way he is at some point, but I would much rather have a manager be direct like he is than what came before. His job is to get the best out of what he has, not to make friends, and I think his way is the better way of doing that. It won't be perfect but I think it'll be effective. I much prefer straight-talkers to fence-sitters in my own life, even if sometimes it causes friction. People work better for people who treat them well, having a positive relationship by being cordial and friendly will only improve things. Coming out and making clear statements as he has done may well be refreshing, but it's also going to be a little "rule by fear". Again, it has it's pro's and con's and we'll see what happens. My point is that you can be a straight talker and still be polite, or at the very least tactical in what you say. Lowensda 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted August 23, 2016 Report Share Posted August 23, 2016 People work better for people who treat them well, having a positive relationship by being cordial and friendly will only improve things. Coming out and making clear statements as he has done may well be refreshing, but it's also going to be a little "rule by fear". Again, it has it's pro's and con's and we'll see what happens. My point is that you can be a straight talker and still be polite, or at the very least tactical in what you say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 23, 2016 Report Share Posted August 23, 2016 People work better for people who treat them well, having a positive relationship by being cordial and friendly will only improve things. Coming out and making clear statements as he has done may well be refreshing, but it's also going to be a little "rule by fear". Again, it has it's pro's and con's and we'll see what happens. My point is that you can be a straight talker and still be polite, or at the very least tactical in what you say. But what was impolite about letting a player know they have no future at the club? Would it have been better to lie to the man and then it be a bit of a shock to him when we threw him out on his ear? As far as I can see he's not been impolite towards anyone so far. duncanmckenzieismagic, markjazzbassist and EFC-Paul 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 23, 2016 Report Share Posted August 23, 2016 But what was impolite about letting a player know they have no future at the club? Would it have been better to lie to the man and then it be a bit of a shock to him when we threw him out on his ear? As far as I can see he's not been impolite towards anyone so far. i'm with you romey. and notice how Oumar is in no rush to leave, just enjoying those checks coming in every friday. if the window closes and he's not gone we will know the character of the man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted August 23, 2016 Report Share Posted August 23, 2016 (edited) People work better for people who treat them well, having a positive relationship by being cordial and friendly will only improve things. Coming out and making clear statements as he has done may well be refreshing, but it's also going to be a little "rule by fear". Again, it has it's pro's and con's and we'll see what happens. My point is that you can be a straight talker and still be polite, or at the very least tactical in what you say. Koeman has seen him in the training camp, in matches and does not like what he sees. He has not given him a squad number - what is the point if he will not trust him to play? Ron has eluded to the likes of McGeady as being pretty much out the picture and to be perfectly honest its about time the club was run like a professional outfit - not a cash hand out for players who are happy to pick up a wage and do nothing. Ron was straight and polite. Its not like he's been classless like Brendan Rodgers in his disrespectful comments about schweinsteiger. http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/rodgers-celtic-schweinsteiger-manchester-united-8681366 Edited August 23, 2016 by Hafnia markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 23, 2016 Report Share Posted August 23, 2016 But what was impolite about letting a player know they have no future at the club? Would it have been better to lie to the man and then it be a bit of a shock to him when we threw him out on his ear? As far as I can see he's not been impolite towards anyone so far. weve been over this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 23, 2016 Report Share Posted August 23, 2016 Koeman has seen him in the training camp, in matches and does not like what he sees. He has not given him a squad number - what is the point if he will not trust him to play? Ron has eluded to the likes of McGeady as being pretty much out the picture and to be perfectly honest its about time the club was run like a professional outfit - not a cash hand out for players who are happy to pick up a wage and do nothing. Ron was straight and polite. Its not like he's been classless like Brendan Rodgers in his disrespectful comments about schweinsteiger. http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/rodgers-celtic-schweinsteiger-manchester-united-8681366 spot on haf. RK is class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 23, 2016 Report Share Posted August 23, 2016 weve been over this! You're the one that just brought it back up again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 23, 2016 Report Share Posted August 23, 2016 You're the one that just brought it back up again! I was just arguing against this "he doesnt have to be friends" point you made! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-boss-ronald-koeman-the-11801246 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted August 27, 2016 Report Share Posted August 27, 2016 http://toffeeweb.com/season/16-17/news/33406.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 27, 2016 Report Share Posted August 27, 2016 http://www.evertonfc.com/news/2016/08/26/koeman-family-get-warm-welcome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 27, 2016 Report Share Posted August 27, 2016 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/evertons-leighton-baines-lifts-lid-11805332 In being so positive about Koeman it's pretty damning of Martinez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baba Posted August 27, 2016 Report Share Posted August 27, 2016 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/evertons-leighton-baines-lifts-lid-11805332 In being so positive about Koeman it's pretty damning of Martinez. Many of the players comments at the end of the season when Martinez was sacked suggested that he had not been too popular and had effectively or metaphorically 'lost the dressing room'. That was fairly clear to most observers for the latter part of the season though, with his treatment of Mirallas and then Baines both taking their toll on morale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted August 27, 2016 Report Share Posted August 27, 2016 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/evertons-leighton-baines-lifts-lid-11805332 In being so positive about Koeman it's pretty damning of Martinez. It had nothing to do with Martinez it was all Lukakus fault [emoji12] Sibdane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 27, 2016 Report Share Posted August 27, 2016 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/evertons-leighton-baines-lifts-lid-11805332 In being so positive about Koeman it's pretty damning of Martinez. I thought the exact same thing. It seemed like for everything he mentioned how they used to do it in shambles and now how they do it the proper and professional way. Also the cliques that formed under Martinez, RK seems aware of how teams can do that and the assignment of groups has solved that. Baines in a roundabout way kinda says that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 29, 2016 Report Share Posted August 29, 2016 Can't remember where I read it now, but he got a big gold star in my eyes for openly pointing out the inconsistency of the new rules for grappling in the box. Did it in such a way that it showed understanding for Stoke (who we're lucky to get theres against City in my opinion) and used the Spurs Vs Liverpool game where the ref was just warning players. I wonder if the FA will have picked up on it or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted August 29, 2016 Report Share Posted August 29, 2016 It had nothing to do with Martinez it was all Lukakus fault [emoji12] Asking the players to be more professional... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted September 10, 2016 Report Share Posted September 10, 2016 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/koeman-wants-everton-fitter-faster-11865027 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted September 11, 2016 Report Share Posted September 11, 2016 I think he should change his kits initials from 'RK' to 'OK'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted September 11, 2016 Report Share Posted September 11, 2016 I like him so far. Good job Ronkster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-boss-koeman-lukaku-one-11878272 I'm a big Barkley fan, but I love the closing comments in this interview Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-boss-koeman-lukaku-one-11878272 I'm a big Barkley fan, but I love the closing comments in this interview Why I really respect Koeman, he will explain these things to his players, and hopefully they will learn and improve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted September 15, 2016 Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/koeman-tells-everton-stars-no-11893516 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cook My Sock Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 I Like Ronald Koeman's Direct Approach To Management. Certainly More Refreshing Than Previous Regimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 I've just voted Moyes #bringabluehome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith B Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 I am 100% in love with this manager. He's honest and real. His handling of Ross has been perfect. Ross needs to be pushed and held accountable. Actually most players both need and want that from their coach. It seems so simple but it is hard. He's a breath of fresh air after Roberto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 Looking at the start we have had and looking at the coming fixtures, Everton could well have close to 40 points by the end of 2016 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brisbaneblue Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 (edited) Koeman's Southampton were very patchy last year, especially leading into November/Decemeber. Take out the 4-0 Arsenal win and you're seeing a 6 game undefeated run, followed by a 7 game winless run, followed by another 6 game undefeated run. With a tough run of fixtures in December - Man United (H), Watford (A), Arsenal (H), Liverpool (H), Leicester (A), Hull (A) - I'd be very weary that we don't drop too many points in November leading into that run: Chelsea away and Southampton away are the two that standout as potential 'momentum stoppers'. Edited September 18, 2016 by brisbaneblue Sibdane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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