StevO Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 5 hours ago, pete0 said: Broken clock is right twice a day, doesn't mean you applaud it the breif moments it is. Would you comment any other player made that pass, nope. How does it feel to be outdone by a broken clock? Matt, MikeO, Hafnia and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 https://fr.sports.yahoo.com/news/accord-de-principe-entre-gueye-et-le-psg-125150702.html?guccounter=1 Basically states that a contract has been agreed between PSG and Gueye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 Also says there’s no chance of him going unless a replacement is signed. A 4.5 year contract? That’s one hell of a payday for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 Pete is Gana still the worst player to have ever worn our shirt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, hafnia said: Pete is Gana still the worst player to have ever worn our shirt? By a mile. Sibdane, nyblue23, MikeO and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 Just now, pete0 said: By a mile. You obviously haven’t been watching Everton as long as I have - Deluded! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 The biggest problem about a deal like that is someone else will have to come in and hit the ground running. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 25 minutes ago, barryj said: You obviously haven’t been watching Everton as long as I have - Deluded! Feel free to name a few. Closest would be Niasse and Straq but at least they contributed. What does Gana add to the team? He gives clear chances away and stifles our attacks. MikeO, Matt and Hafnia 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 35 minutes ago, pete0 said: Feel free to name a few. Closest would be Niasse and Straq but at least they contributed. What does Gana add to the team? He gives clear chances away and stifles our attacks. Except for when he wins the ball back and plays in the winger for a goal you mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 Just now, Matt said: Except for when he wins the ball back and plays in the winger for a goal you mean? A one off in the 90th minute and he had no other options. Weigh up his acts and I doubt there are many points gained thanks to him. Whereas the points lost is bigger than any outfield player for us. Just look at the Soton goals, he's involved in both. He gifts chances like no other player in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 Just now, pete0 said: A one off in the 90th minute and he had no other options. Weigh up his acts and I doubt there are many points gained thanks to him. Whereas the points lost is bigger than any outfield player for us. Just look at the Soton goals, he's involved in both. He gifts chances like no other player in the league. No. One; it’s not a one off. 2; “no other choice” doesn’t magically negate the supposed inability to do it. He either can do it or he can’t. Video evidence shows he can and does. Please provide your evidence for the “point lost” fiction that you’ve created. I’m going to ask one last time; are you just on the biggest wind up or do you actually believe what you’re typing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, Matt said: No. One; it’s not a one off. 2; “no other choice” doesn’t magically negate the supposed inability to do it. He either can do it or he can’t. Video evidence shows he can and does. Please provide your evidence for the “point lost” fiction that you’ve created. I’m going to ask one last time; are you just on the biggest wind up or do you actually believe what you’re typing? I could make that pass as could most people. Would I make it every time, probably not, but I could do it at least once, and the likelihood in that play of making it would be quite high. Gana has showed he doesn't do it enough, even the most simple passes are often over hit or bobbly. I expect professionals to be more precise and crisp in their passing, especially a midfielder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 2 hours ago, pete0 said: Feel free to name a few. Closest would be Niasse and Straq but at least they contributed. What does Gana add to the team? He gives clear chances away and stifles our attacks. Did you sleep through the 90s? Matt and barryj 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted January 23, 2019 Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 2 hours ago, pete0 said: Feel free to name a few. Closest would be Niasse and Straq but at least they contributed. What does Gana add to the team? He gives clear chances away and stifles our attacks. Danny Williamson Tony Thomas Claus Thompsen John Oster Scott Gemmill Mark Pembridge Alex Nyarko Li Tie Steffen Rehn Nicklaus Alexanderson Idan Tal Gareth Farrelly Tommy Johnson Mitch Ward Cadamarteri Michael branch Stephen Hughes Nyarko Bakayoko Madar Lacina traore Joe max Moore Preki Li wei feng Castillo But yeah..... PSG's highly rated manager wants to buy Gana for in excess of £25m cos he is the shittest player to wear an Everton shirt and should be sharing the pitch with 2 players worth £500m between them. Ok Pete........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted January 23, 2019 Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 You forgot Lukaku Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted January 23, 2019 Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 @hafnia We'd be a much more solid team with a Scot Gemmill or Mark Pembridge in the middle. Li Tie is basically what Gana is made out to be, but not even half as good. Gana has a brilliant reputation based on moneyball stats. A Walsh signing through and through. See how much PSG get for him once they realise how gash he is. Only been here so long due to manager changes. Bit like Joe Hart at City. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 23, 2019 Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 8 hours ago, pete0 said: I could make that pass as could most people. Would I make it every time, probably not, but I could do it at least once, and the likelihood in that play of making it would be quite high. Gana has showed he doesn't do it enough, even the most simple passes are often over hit or bobbly. I expect professionals to be more precise and crisp in their passing, especially a midfielder. Doesn't matter. You said he's incapable, but he clearly is: 1 seasons worth of "one offs", where he demonstrates his ability of passing forward, tackling, intercepting, etc.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted January 23, 2019 Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 42 minutes ago, Matt said: Doesn't matter. You said he's incapable, but he clearly is: 1 seasons worth of "one offs", where he demonstrates his ability of passing forward, tackling, intercepting, etc.... Even you tube doesn't make him look a good player. What does he do in that reel that is more than average? More than what any two legged person is capable of. I said he doesn't weigh his passes and the quality of them is poor, no consideration of what foot or whether to go in front or to feet. Naturally you will make a few passes. It's sad that you think one pass proves you're point. Again I'll point at Crouch scoring a worldie, possibly the best goal in the prem, no one calls him the best goal scorer in the prem no one even considers him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted January 23, 2019 Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 Pete. You persistence on gana has done absolutely nothing to convince one person to think otherwise. Gemmill pembridge and Li Tie better.??? Haha.... hilarious. Comments like that actually make me believe you are taking the piss either that or you know fuck all about the game. StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 23, 2019 Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 34 minutes ago, pete0 said: Even you tube doesn't make him look a good player. What does he do in that reel that is more than average? More than what any two legged person is capable of. I said he doesn't weigh his passes and the quality of them is poor, no consideration of what foot or whether to go in front or to feet. Naturally you will make a few passes. It's sad that you think one pass proves you're point. Again I'll point at Crouch scoring a worldie, possibly the best goal in the prem, no one calls him the best goal scorer in the prem no one even considers him. It's not one pass though, is it. There's plenty of examples in that video, and that's from one season. Also, you've insisted many times that he is incapable of doing certain things, which is clearly incorrect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted January 23, 2019 Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 33 minutes ago, hafnia said: Pete. You persistence on gana has done absolutely nothing to convince one person to think otherwise. Gemmill pembridge and Li Tie better.??? Haha.... hilarious. Comments like that actually make me believe you are taking the piss either that or you know fuck all about the game. People took the piss when I said DCL should start over Tosun. Think most would now agree. 8 minutes ago, Matt said: It's not one pass though, is it. There's plenty of examples in that video, and that's from one season. Also, you've insisted many times that he is incapable of doing certain things, which is clearly incorrect. Everyone is capable of doing something once. Look at Lukaku and his touch, sometimes it was perfect but that doesn't stop people saying he's got a bad touch or mean they're wrong to say so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 23, 2019 Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, pete0 said: People took the piss when I said DCL should start over Tosun. Think most would now agree. Everyone is capable of doing something once. Look at Lukaku and his touch, sometimes it was perfect but that doesn't stop people saying he's got a bad touch or mean they're wrong to say so. Yet again - just like with Lukaku - it's not just once, and the evidence is there to support it. Your extreme exaggerations just undermine a point that would be / is otherwise accepted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted January 23, 2019 Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 6 minutes ago, Matt said: Yet again - just like with Lukaku - it's not just once, and the evidence is there to support it. Your extreme exaggerations just undermine a point that would be / is otherwise accepted. I don't get your point, it's not just once. Gana makes poor quality passes every game. He makes it harder for us to attack due to how poor they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 23, 2019 Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 7 minutes ago, pete0 said: I don't get your point, it's not just once. Gana makes poor quality passes every game. He makes it harder for us to attack due to how poor they are. Yeh, he makes mistakes, we all acknowledge that. But he also does a lot of good that you refuse to acknowledge and disregard evidence when it's presented. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted January 23, 2019 Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 26 minutes ago, Matt said: Yeh, he makes mistakes, we all acknowledge that. But he also does a lot of good that you refuse to acknowledge and disregard evidence when it's presented. They're not mistakes, that's just his level. A lot of good? Like tackles that don't even win possession and passes that kill the tempo. At best he's redundant in a game but more often than not he gives a clear opportunity away to the opposition. Only game I can think of were he never was Palace, and that was down to their poor tactics as they never played through the middle to exploit our biggest weakness. nyblue23 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 23, 2019 Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, pete0 said: They're not mistakes, that's just his level. A lot of good? Like tackles that don't even win possession and passes that kill the tempo. At best he's redundant in a game but more often than not he gives a clear opportunity away to the opposition. Only game I can think of were he never was Palace, and that was down to their poor tactics as they never played through the middle to exploit our biggest weakness. So you're going to ignore video evidence to the contrary? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted January 23, 2019 Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 Pete.... the lukaku reference isn'tt even comparable. Whichever way you want to look at it lukakus pass completion stats, duels lost, distance run, possession conceded stats were amongst the worst for an outfield player.... if your view is that it is worth suffering them for his goals then it's up to the individual. Some did - I didn't. Some tried to say his touch would improve... I knew it wouldn't but non the less he's at United now. Pull out some stats about Gana that point to a player who imbalances the side because he gives the ball away as frequently as you make out... tell us statistically how he can be a headless chicken and win the ball so much but in doing so... somehow con managers into believing a shit player is actually good... a player of international quality who did well with his team in the world cup. You can't. Because no matter how much you huff and puff there is not one tangible bit of proof that backs up your opinion. Most of us can see that gana isn'tt Ruben neves or Andrea pirlo sits in front of the back 4 and plays the DM role in a regista fashion.... because he fuckin isn'tt.... why do you think PSG are looking at buying him despite having 2 class registas in their squad.... it's not fuckin hard to understand. Sadly you just ignore all this cos you need to prove yourself right.... you can't. Give it up. Gana is a seek and destroy player who is ideal alongside the midfielder that you want him to be.... StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted January 23, 2019 Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Matt said: So you're going to ignore video evidence to the contrary? The stuff in the video you put is hardly even noteworthy. You could make a video just as long of Lukaku bringing the ball down. Back to my point about simple passes that he regularly gets wrong and has done for three seasons. You ignoring that thanks to a 6 minute video? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 23, 2019 Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 1 minute ago, pete0 said: The stuff in the video you put is hardly even noteworthy. You could make a video just as long of Lukaku bringing the ball down. Back to my point about simple passes that he regularly gets wrong and has done for three seasons. You ignoring that thanks to a 6 minute video? Nope, I’m taking his mistakes into account after watching him for 3 years and seeing that his strengths greatly outweigh his deficiencies without exaggerating to the extreme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 23, 2019 Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/46967618 wonder if that might put him off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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