Finn balor Posted July 3, 2017 Report Share Posted July 3, 2017 Get Keane in and then Rooney. Only a striker and gilfi to go and maybe a midfielder if macca goes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted July 3, 2017 Report Share Posted July 3, 2017 Spoilt I know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted July 3, 2017 Report Share Posted July 3, 2017 Quite a few will be looking a bit silly but I'm sure they won't mind.Starting to get used to it now, and your right I don't mind.My defence is I was mislead by others lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted July 3, 2017 Report Share Posted July 3, 2017 Awesome! Bargain price. The clubs that were after him should speak volumes about the coup we have pulled off here. Whoever it is...BK, Moshiri, Walsh, Koeman, all of them...they are selling a real vision for this club to the incoming players. Let's give him time to settle and not expect perfection from the off! Next.....!!! I agree mate, let's give all the new lads every opportunity to settle in and find their feet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted July 3, 2017 Report Share Posted July 3, 2017 Mike, you've seen good time. Us young(ish) fellas haven't ??♀️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyblue23 Posted July 3, 2017 Report Share Posted July 3, 2017 Quite a few will be looking a bit silly but I'm sure they won't mind. Pulling quotes from 2 weeks ago. Give your head a wobble He seems to mind. You had the misfortune of being pinned to the top of the page, Paul. That's obvious, though, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted July 3, 2017 Report Share Posted July 3, 2017 We can all calm down now and pick another transfer to panic about ? Keanes been a while now ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted July 3, 2017 Report Share Posted July 3, 2017 Want a striker now. Apart from Rooney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted July 3, 2017 Report Share Posted July 3, 2017 I don't feel silly at all- I honestly thought we'd get gazumped last minute, it all seemed too strange to me but I was wrong, wont be the first time or the last. Alls I care about is he's signed. Not overly enamoured over it if I'm honest, he'll have to prove himself in the prem before I get really excited, I wasn't hugely impressed by him for Spain this last tournemant but I'm hoping I'm wrong again and he proves me a doubter for a second time. You're always wrong fella. Have a lie down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted July 3, 2017 Report Share Posted July 3, 2017 You're always wrong fella. Have a lie down Oh look it's the forum weirdo out from under his stone. You been drinking the keyboard warrior juice again sunshine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted July 3, 2017 Report Share Posted July 3, 2017 Oh for fuck sake he's found his bloody keyboard again!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlberFenoll Posted July 3, 2017 Report Share Posted July 3, 2017 All Goals Sandro Ramírez Málaga CF season 16/17 markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markiediow Posted July 3, 2017 Report Share Posted July 3, 2017 Want a striker now. Apart from Rooney We need Lukaku to come out and say "Everton have now proved they have the same level of ambition as himself, and I am signing a contract". Then sign another striker to add to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted July 3, 2017 Report Share Posted July 3, 2017 Sandro takes a mean free kick! markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyblue23 Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 Get back to reddit Don't even know what that means Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogs Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 Ludicrous price, not sure how it stayed at the release clause. Watched him v Barca and in April I think, he looked excellent. 14 goals is a decent enough return... ah fuck it, dunno the how's and why's, he's ours and I wouldn't bet against him being the bargain of the summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 Ludicrous price, not sure how it stayed at the release clause. Watched him v Barca and in April I think, he looked excellent. 14 goals is a decent enough return... ah fuck it, dunno the how's and why's, he's ours and I wouldn't bet against him being the bargain of the summer. Because once its met the team (Malaga in this case) have to accept or they are in breach of contract and can be sued. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted July 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 Sandro takes a mean free kick! yeah i noticed that too. also not afraid to shoot outside the box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 Because once its met the team (Malaga in this case) have to accept or they are in breach of contract and can be sued. But I'm still pondering over this. If he's worth 12m, say, and we paid about half that (which Malaga are obliged to accept), what stops another team coming in for 8m? Why was there no bidding war? Don't get me wrong, I'm delighted with the outcome, but I'm still puzzled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoof_It_Nev Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 (edited) But I'm still pondering over this. If he's worth 12m, say, and we paid about half that (which Malaga are obliged to accept), what stops another team coming in for 8m? Why was there no bidding war? Don't get me wrong, I'm delighted with the outcome, but I'm still puzzled. Because if someone bid over the release clause they would literally be throwing their money away, as a bid of 6ish is guaranteed to be accepted. I guess it's then up to the player to choose where he wants to go, if multiple teams trigger the release clause. Edited July 4, 2017 by Hoof_It_Nev Quinn31 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 But I'm still pondering over this. If he's worth 12m, say, and we paid about half that (which Malaga are obliged to accept), what stops another team coming in for 8m? Why was there no bidding war? Don't get me wrong, I'm delighted with the outcome, but I'm still puzzled. why bid more when they HAVE to accept the £5.25m? they cant reject our bid of £5.25m. If other teams come in with the buy out clause then its up to the player, the team have no say in who he goes to. Doesn't matter what they bid, providing the clause is met then anything more is a waste of money. Quinn31 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 Why would Malaga bother to work on a second bid? Wouldn't they just drag it out, pretend they are dealing with it, without really adding resource to it.... of course u less someone is offering them more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 why bid more when they HAVE to accept the £5.25m? they cant reject our bid of £5.25m. If other teams come in with the buy out clause then its up to the player, the team have no say in who he goes to. Doesn't matter what they bid, providing the clause is met then anything more is a waste of money. I agree, but why was there no competition? If someone is worth 12m (and I'm making up a number), but did no-one bid over 5.25 million? The release clause is just the starting point in an auction. "Let's start the bidding at 5.25m for this wonderful young striker worth at least 12m. Do I hear 6m? 6m anyone? 7m? 7.5?" I still don't understand why no-one else put in a bid. If his true value is 5.25m, then I understand it, but everyone is saying this was a steal (i.e., we paid less than his worth). It's not throwing money away to pay 6m or 8m or 10m for someone whose worth is really 12m. At a minimum, you could buy him at a bargain basement price and sell him in January for 12m. I'm not meaning to be awkward here, and maybe I'm just missing something completely, but why was there no bidding war if we got a steal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 (edited) Transfer buy out and release clauses. http://www.danielgeey.com/buy-out-release-clauses-in-football-the-basics/ Edited July 4, 2017 by Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 In this case, it was a release clause, right? Either way, my question still stands: If we got the player at a bargain price, why was no-one else bidding? The release clause is a minimum, not a maximum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoof_It_Nev Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 In this case, it was a release clause, right? Either way, my question still stands: If we got the player at a bargain price, why was no-one else bidding? The release clause is a minimum, not a maximum. Not sure how else to explain it, haha. There's could have been 10 other teams placing a bid of £5.2m on him for all we know. All of them would have been accepted and been allowed to offer the player a contract. Someone bidding £10m would be in exactly the same position, apart from looking a bit stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyblue23 Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 (edited) I agree, but why was there no competition? If someone is worth 12m (and I'm making up a number), but did no-one bid over 5.25 million? The release clause is just the starting point in an auction. "Let's start the bidding at 5.25m for this wonderful young striker worth at least 12m. Do I hear 6m? 6m anyone? 7m? 7.5?" I still don't understand why no-one else put in a bid. If his true value is 5.25m, then I understand it, but everyone is saying this was a steal (i.e., we paid less than his worth). It's not throwing money away to pay 6m or 8m or 10m for someone whose worth is really 12m. At a minimum, you could buy him at a bargain basement price and sell him in January for 12m. I'm not meaning to be awkward here, and maybe I'm just missing something completely, but why was there no bidding war if we got a steal? Because the club have to accept any and all offers at the release clause. No club would bid more, because all offers at the release clause must be accepted and it's up to the player to decide where he goes. The player won't have his head turned by a higher offer; he'll go wherever he wants to go and wherever pays him the highest wages. Edited July 4, 2017 by nyblue23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riscon Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 (edited) Anthony Martial - £36 million, potentially rising to an £58 million, 11 French league goals after 29 appearances with a strong Monaco team France U21..... SandroRamirez - £5.5 million., 16 goals in 31 appearances for mid table Malaga and Spain U21. I know which one seems like the better deal Edited July 4, 2017 by Risco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 Because the club have to accept any and all offers at the release clause. No club would bid more, because all offers at the release clause must be accepted and it's up to the player to decide where he goes. The player won't have his head turned by a higher offer; he'll go wherever he wants to go and wherever pays him the highest wages. So are you saying that a club must accept the first offer it receives that meets the release clause, and this prevents other teams from subsequently bidding a higher amount? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 So are you saying that a club must accept the first offer it receives that meets the release clause, and this prevents other teams from subsequently bidding a higher amount? No your right in what you are asking. Any offer that meets the clause is accepted. So why didn't anyone else try? Why didnt Malaga also offer haha? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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