Shukes Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Palfy said: Only 12 Gana had been pissing me off for 24 but mercifully the bad days are now over, and I will be able to watch a game without worrying about what is next fuck up is going to be Don’t worry mate.... like Brexit, we’ll keep doing the poll again until people give up and just agree with you to shut you up Palfy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 Just now, Shukes said: Don’t worry mate.... like Brexit, we’ll keep doing the poll again until people give up and just agree with you to shut you up Ah that’s nice love you too. Shukes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 18 minutes ago, StevO said: You still do not understand the idea of a player defending from the front. You mean like Gylfi and DCL? Gana runs head first regardless and leaves us exposed. Your yet to name another player at cm who does... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 41 minutes ago, pete0 said: You mean like Gylfi and DCL? Gana runs head first regardless and leaves us exposed. Your yet to name another player at cm who does... I won’t name another because I disagree it’s headless and believe it’s tactical. But you think a player can only be a defensive midfielder if they sit behind the other midfielders. Our last few managers, and PSG, understand though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 8 minutes ago, StevO said: I won’t name another because I disagree it’s headless and believe it’s tactical. But you think a player can only be a defensive midfielder if they sit behind the other midfielders. Our last few managers, and PSG, understand though. I'm asking to name another team that do it. If it's tactics surely you can find one team that does it. Walsh was a stats idiot, he wanted Gana over Kante and just got lucky at Leicester that Villa bought him (note: Gana played a massive part in them going down and are the only team that come close to clear chances through the middle like we had with Gana). Alladyce inherited a team with very little energy and did look to replace him. Silva didn't want him, and was happy for him to go, pending a replacement. MikeO, nyblue23, duncanmckenzieismagic and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 1 hour ago, pete0 said: I'm asking to name another team that do it. If it's tactics surely you can find one team that does it. Walsh was a stats idiot, he wanted Gana over Kante and just got lucky at Leicester that Villa bought him (note: Gana played a massive part in them going down and are the only team that come close to clear chances through the middle like we had with Gana). Alladyce inherited a team with very little energy and did look to replace him. Silva didn't want him, and was happy for him to go, pending a replacement. I don’t watch enough other teams to know their tactics to know what their midfielders do. But just because someone else doesn’t do it doesn’t make it bad. What I do know is that all of our managers he played for, the sports media and PSG all agree with me on this. Silva didn’t want him? Alardyce tried to replace him? I missed that. Matt and nyblue23 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 Update. Currently 88% of voters think we are not better off without Gana. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 16 minutes ago, StevO said: I don’t watch enough other teams to know their tactics to know what their midfielders do. But just because someone else doesn’t do it doesn’t make it bad. What I do know is that all of our managers he played for, the sports media and PSG all agree with me on this. Silva didn’t want him? Alardyce tried to replace him? I missed that. The media used to bum Joe Hart, you know that lad who's now in his prime yet found himself as third choice at Burnley last year. As for PSG he's not got on the pitch for them yet, although even Stoke's finest double double barrel Jean-Eric Choupo-Moting gets game time for them so there's hope for Gana yet. There's 100s of teams. You watch at least 19 others a year for I assume 20 years plus. You'd think another in that time would have done it or copied if it was a good tactic. Must have a very short memory. 15 minutes ago, StevO said: Update. Currently 88% of voters think we are not better off without Gana. Would help if you framed the question and thread name better. Looks more a popularity contest as there was definitely more than 3 happy to see him go as the team will be more balanced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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barryj Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 I thought a new season, the player whom I shall not name gone we may have a whole different more exciting debate .......how wrong was I? Any way the forum can delete any post with g word in it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 1 hour ago, pete0 said: Would help if you framed the question and thread name better. Looks more a popularity contest as there was definitely more than 3 happy to see him go as the team will be more balanced. Then as I asked in the other thread, who? the rest of your post, we will never agree. I have seen other teams for at least 90 minutes per season, not enough where I could tell you how they play or tactical patterns in their play. The high pressing hasn’t been massive over the last 20 years, but I’ve been watching football a fair bit longer than that, so I don’t know many others who have played in that style. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 10 minutes ago, StevO said: Then as I asked in the other thread, who? the rest of your post, we will never agree. I have seen other teams for at least 90 minutes per season, not enough where I could tell you how they play or tactical patterns in their play. The high pressing hasn’t been massive over the last 20 years, but I’ve been watching football a fair bit longer than that, so I don’t know many others who have played in that style. Unsure but there was definitely more than three of us. Gana thread is very short after his move, and I'll be damned if you expect me to search the multiple random threads that all the after talk is in. That's a lot of football to not be able to name one. Closest I can think is Kante who has moved from DM to CM this year but he's smarter in his positioning and closing down. He wasn't solely a defender from the front, he gave more going forward connecting the defence with attack and got 4x as many goals and assists to Gana 8 to 2 respectively. (Kante's biggest flaw was his sloppy forward passes but that was to be expected given it was a new responsibility). Going through the league there wasn't many CMs with the minutes Gana had and so little contribution offensively. Defensively I've never seen a team give such good chances away through the middle than the Everton Gana, and Villa Gana teams (at the time I thought Sanchez was a joke but after seeing Gana turn Schneiderlin into a pasty I can see I noticed the wrong man when watching Villa's demise). StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubecula Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 I am with matt on this may as well ask if we are better off without Joe Mercer yes I know he is dead and buried now but he used to platy for us as did gana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 3 hours ago, barryj said: I thought a new season, the player whom I shall not name gone we may have a whole different more exciting debate .......how wrong was I? Any way the forum can delete any post with g word in it? Gomes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 2 hours ago, pete0 said: Unsure but there was definitely more than three of us. Gana thread is very short after his move, and I'll be damned if you expect me to search the multiple random threads that all the after talk is in. Seve was very critical of Gana and posted very good arguments to back up his position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 Could have been an interesting thread. But it isn’t! Romey 1878, StevO and Matt 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 16 hours ago, pete0 said: Gbamin is the one getting between the defenders to pick up the ball. That was Gomes' role last year, with Gana further forward. Yesterday that was still, most definitely Gomes' role, and not Gbamin's. Gomes could've had a cup of tea with Keane and Mina. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 We beat Watford at home yesterday without Gona and drew 2-2 last season with Gona, surly more evidence so early on that we don’t miss him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 6 hours ago, Shukes said: Could have been an interesting thread. But it isn’t! You could have gone to Specsavers and you would have seen it’s not interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 5 hours ago, Palfy said: You could have gone to Specsavers and you would have seen it’s not interesting. I know that, just read your last comment! It’s like watching David Brent look in a mirror when you two speak! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 40 minutes ago, Shukes said: I know that, just read your last comment! It’s like watching David Brent look in a mirror when you two speak! I know I look in the mirror sometimes and I think my work is done here, I’m like Jesus really and I’m spreading the word on how poor Gana is. I’m not just confined to TT I’m bigger than that I might live in Reading but I know the worlds a bigger place Bracknell Woking Slough even Newbury isn’t that far away, and it’s my job to educate the world about poor footballers, that’s why I see my life as modern Jesus, I probably had a better start than him he was a back street carpenter odd job man really, I’ve climbed the ranks of top management I know how to make people listen and take everything I say on board not many could do what I do probably not even Jesus. Is that David Brent enough for you Shukes ( Aka Jesus ) Bailey and Shukes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 Repeat the poll at the end of the season. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heath Posted August 19, 2019 Report Share Posted August 19, 2019 Personally I think we are about the same, but to be honest it's far too early to assess right now. Have to say, this fence I'm sitting on is nice and comfy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron Posted August 19, 2019 Report Share Posted August 19, 2019 How is this question even being asked yet? On paper it would indicate no but only time will tell, pointless even asking this now. Should be asked midway through / end of the season. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted August 19, 2019 Report Share Posted August 19, 2019 Impossible to answer really as well. If we finish second this season.... would we have finished top with Gana? For me, we had to improve this year, with or without Gana. It’s not about him, it’s about Everton. Bailey, Wiggytop, Palfy and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted August 19, 2019 Report Share Posted August 19, 2019 On 18/08/2019 at 13:08, Palfy said: We beat Watford at home yesterday without Gona and drew 2-2 last season with Gona, surly more evidence so early on that we don’t miss him. Or the draw with Palace means there’s no change? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted August 19, 2019 Report Share Posted August 19, 2019 8 minutes ago, barryj said: Or the draw with Palace means there’s no change? I did highlight that draw some posts back which again proves we didn’t miss him, because we never lost and the result was the same he wasn’t missed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted August 19, 2019 Report Share Posted August 19, 2019 18 minutes ago, Palfy said: I did highlight that draw some posts back which again proves we didn’t miss him, because we never lost and the result was the same he wasn’t missed. Only a simpleton would suggest corresponding results one season after the next were proof of the impact of a single player. And I'd never suggest you were a simpleton Palf.....maybe. barryj 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted August 20, 2019 Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 On 19/08/2019 at 16:18, aaron said: How is this question even being asked yet? On paper it would indicate no but only time will tell, pointless even asking this now. Should be asked midway through / end of the season. It's taken its inspiration from the Brexit referendum, we all have to vote with absolutely no clue as to how things will pan out. As such nobody will be allowed to change their minds when they observe the reality of his performances for PSG and there will be no second vote under any circumstances. London Blue and StevO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiku Posted August 20, 2019 Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 It's way too early for this poll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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