Sir McGiven Posted October 5, 2019 Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 hoping for top 6, stucked in the bottom 6. meh. you know what? silva makes, he-who-must-not-be-named, look like a better option for the team... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted October 5, 2019 Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 We say it every year though. We have no winners or battlers that take the game by the scruff of the neck. Probably play the same shitty formation and players next game Shukes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted October 5, 2019 Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 Meanwhile, Liverpool are given the softest of penalties in the fifth minute of stoppage time - salt in the wound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memmaclub2 Posted October 5, 2019 Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 Just now, barryj said: Definition of madness: Doing the same thing time and time again expecting a different result. I agree but I think that applies to board to picking managers who they think can go on a journey. I don;t want a journey I want results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted October 5, 2019 Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, barryj said: Definition of madness: Doing the same thing time and time again expecting a different result. Said exactly that to my lad at half time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted October 5, 2019 Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 Just now, memmaclub2 said: I agree but I think that applies to board to picking managers who they think can go on a journey. I don;t want a journey I want results. I said it before but IF we change managers we need to look to a winner. Leicester, West Ham and even Newcastle under Rafa has shown that they are available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted October 5, 2019 Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 Just now, TallPaul1878 said: I was looking at a betting stats site and their stats suggested that Everton Everton have only won 24% of games that they have been favourites in. That is a dismal return. As much as that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memmaclub2 Posted October 5, 2019 Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 I can't see how the board can keep him after this start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogs Posted October 5, 2019 Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 8 minutes ago, barryj said: Definition of madness: Doing the same thing time and time again expecting a different result. Which is exactly what Martinez tried. And then Koeman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memmaclub2 Posted October 5, 2019 Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 1 minute ago, TallPaul1878 said: Mourinho is available It maybe be unpopular but it can't be worse than the 4 managers we had since Moyes. I would take a resounding crash and burn under Mourinho just for the opportunity to see if he can get it right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memmaclub2 Posted October 5, 2019 Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 "They will drop into the bottom three at the end of the weekend if Newcastle beat Manchester United at St James' Park on Sunday." from BBC. with only playing man city from top 6 this for me is the end for silva Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted October 5, 2019 Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 13 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said: not good. i was right on iwoeful, he is just that. missed a sitter, kept skying crosses. he's yet another arsenal castoff we shouldn't have bought (looking at you walcott). Mina looks better every game, he is proving to be a good buy. Yeah and Gylfi was excellent again, Iwobi wasn’t our worse player and he contributed more than Gylfi who we didn’t miss when we went down to ten, in fact we looked better for him going off. I think it maybe time to change your picture chicagoblue and plaidharper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted October 5, 2019 Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 12 minutes ago, TallPaul1878 said: Mourinho is available So am I. plaidharper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memmaclub2 Posted October 5, 2019 Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 We needed 1 or two more cb and a striker who can score 15-20 but the squad is stongest its been for a long time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted October 5, 2019 Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 1 minute ago, TallPaul1878 said: Iwobi wasn't a prolific goal scorer at Arsenal and he sure as hell won't be one here. Our major downfall is that we are completely impotent in front of goal. If Richarlison or Sigurdsson don't score then Everton don't score. I never wanted Iwobi when we signed him and I'll support him whilst he is here but I won't shed a tear if he is to move on again. Our problems are abundantly clear. We need a striker who can hit on the break and we need another striker who can bully dogged defences at corners/free kicks. Our defence is slow and not suited to attacking football, we need more athletic centre defenders It's not as simple as that in my opinion. Regardless of how much you rate DCL, Kean or Tosun, we simply dont create enough chances. We have missed some sitters, and I dont deny that these three can do more, but its not even like they get 1 chance a game. Shukes and pete0 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted October 5, 2019 Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 22 minutes ago, Cornish Steve said: Meanwhile, Liverpool are given the softest of penalties in the fifth minute of stoppage time - salt in the wound. All the press want them to win it and the FA everything is geared for them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted October 5, 2019 Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 Leicester and West Ham are miles ahead of us and that is just not good enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted October 5, 2019 Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 And players that can create out of nothing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted October 5, 2019 Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 I thought the most telling part about today was how we improved when we went down to 10 men. We actually passed the ball better through midfield (not that hard I admit) and we had Delph moving forward with the ball, Richarlison became more involved and Iwobi also found more space in the centre. As an example, with Richarlison able to cut inside, Sidibe made 4 more passes in the final third than Coleman. By my calculation Siggy made 4 forward passes when he was on the pitch and DCL made 3 all game. Kean made 4 passes in the time he was on and Gomes made 2 forward passes in the few minutes he was on. That tells you two things, firstly that we arent very good at getting the ball into our front men, but also that they aren't very good at getting in space and then when they do get on the ball, they are doing nothing with it. Its a massive waste having your most creative player in the most congested area of the pitch with his back to goal. I just don't understand it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted October 5, 2019 Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 5 minutes ago, TallPaul1878 said: DCL was brought in as a winger and has been converted to a striker due to his physique. It clearly hasn't worked and I think he is best suited on the wing where he can bully a full back all match and be an out ball. I'd rather Richarlison play up top. We are getting beat by teams that sit deep and then hit us on the counter. We expose ourselves by having rampaging fullbacks and a pair of centre backs who get turned on the half way line and have no chance of recovery. If you are going to hold a high line then your defenders need to be experts at recovery runs. With our defence we might as well sit deep ourselves, surrender possession and look to counter with the pace that is in our front line. I'm not sure about DCL, I think he was always expected to be a striker but I agree with the rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted October 5, 2019 Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 Not for a moment making excuses but was there not a case for VAR on their goal when Tarkowski plainly obstructed Morgan? Think MJB mentioned it at the time. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nutmegwolf203 Posted October 5, 2019 Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, TallPaul1878 said: DCL was brought in as a winger and has been converted to a striker due to his physique. DCL was never a winger. He was played there but that wasn't his position. He started as a CM, if I'm not mistaken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted October 5, 2019 Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 23 minutes ago, TallPaul1878 said: Any manager who puts Everton into the bottom 3 after 10 games should be shown the door. As well as that I think someone needs to get a hold of Moshiri and explain to him how football works because throwing good money after bad doesn't work We're in the bottom four after playing mostly bottom half teams. I don't want to think about where we'll be after playing the better teams in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaiah Posted October 5, 2019 Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 Is it true that Everton have never come from behind to win under Marco Silva? Someone mentioned it on Twitter. Very damning statistic if so, show's the level of fight we have as a team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagoblue Posted October 5, 2019 Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 Pochetino might be available... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogs Posted October 5, 2019 Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 9 minutes ago, TallPaul1878 said: DCL was brought in as a winger and has been converted to a striker due to his physique. He played as a striker for Sheff Utd youth teams, on loan at Northampton and for the England youth sides so I'm not sure that's true. Richarlison can't handle the physical side of the game playing CF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nutmegwolf203 Posted October 5, 2019 Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 Just now, Isaiah said: Is it true that Everton have never come from behind to win under Marco Silva? Someone mentioned it on Twitter. Very damning statistic if so, show's the level of fight we have as a team. I believe so; and it shows. We could get scored on just after halftime and it feels like 90+ mins of stoppage time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted October 5, 2019 Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 5 minutes ago, MikeO said: Not for a moment making excuses but was there not a case for VAR on their goal when Tarkowski plainly obstructed Morgan? Think MJB mentioned it at the time. Not sure it would have made a difference to be honest. That type of blocking is commonplace in the penalty box. Id imagine you will see it in some capacity on every corner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted October 5, 2019 Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 I'll get slammed for this comment, but I would be happy to see Unsworth be given the job until the end of the year. He knows and loves the club, he knows the players and they respect him, and I personally thought he twice did a decent job holding the fort between managers. I've lost all hope in Silva, I confess: He's like a deer in the headlights right now, and we shouldn't rush the next managerial appointment. Give Unsworth the chance, with more time this time around, and see how it goes. He's likely to be a big improvement on what we're currently experiencing. We have good players (bar a couple): Brands has done a good job. I can see better ways to use our players, and so can plenty here. It really isn't the players right now - except for lack of confidence and motivation, and that comes from the manager. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagoblue Posted October 5, 2019 Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, TallPaul1878 said: Benitez is available and would just slot straight in. He's at Dalia Yifang in China and pretty sure he's not there on holiday Bailey and Zoo 2.0 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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