duncanmckenzieismagic Posted June 18, 2020 Report Share Posted June 18, 2020 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8433971/Bournemouth-winger-Ryan-Fraser-eyes-summer-switch-Everton-Premier-League-ace-turns-deal.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted June 18, 2020 Report Share Posted June 18, 2020 I obviously don't watch a lot of him but he seems to be a lot like Walcott in that one game he'll be great and then invisible the next - inconsistent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted June 18, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Romey 1878 said: I obviously don't watch a lot of him but he seems to be a lot like Walcott in that one game he'll be great and then invisible the next - inconsistent. That is precisely what I thought when I read it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 18, 2020 Report Share Posted June 18, 2020 Apparently asking for 100k+ because he’s on a free... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted June 18, 2020 Report Share Posted June 18, 2020 2 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: I obviously don't watch a lot of him but he seems to be a lot like Walcott in that one game he'll be great and then invisible the next - inconsistent. I think he had a really good season last season which built the hype about him - only Hazard created more chances or got more assists (can’t remember exactly) but hasn’t done too much this season. Maybe his contract situation has had something to do with it - maybe he’s just not that good - I don’t know. What I do know is that he’s predominantly a left winger where we already have Bernard, Iwobi and an emerging Gordon. Maybe we see him as a right wing option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted June 18, 2020 Report Share Posted June 18, 2020 can he play RW? if so, it's a no brainer. 26 and on a free. temper the wage demands and he could be a decent rotation piece there with the starter i'm presuming we will buy. put around some better players he might actually be a decent footballer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted June 18, 2020 Report Share Posted June 18, 2020 Is he a left footer? All of our wingers/wide players are right footed. Could do with some balance. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted June 18, 2020 Report Share Posted June 18, 2020 with the current economic situation we don't know how much moshiri took a hit and his current willingness to invest more money into the project. players on a free like this could be paramount if we aren't going to spend big. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makis Posted June 18, 2020 Report Share Posted June 18, 2020 Don't think people appreciate that's he's quite good. My main issue that his main position is about the last position we need strenghtening. Unless he moves to right (where he has played, a few times this season) then I can't see the point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlbanyNYToffee Posted June 19, 2020 Report Share Posted June 19, 2020 Would have been a yes for me but he’s refused to finish the season with Bournemouth. Don’t want anyone willing to quit on their teammates regardless of the circumstances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 On 18/06/2020 at 09:35, Romey 1878 said: I obviously don't watch a lot of him but he seems to be a lot like Walcott in that one game he'll be great and then invisible the next - inconsistent. I get your point but I think your ratios are out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 7 hours ago, AlbanyNYToffee said: Would have been a yes for me but he’s refused to finish the season with Bournemouth. Don’t want anyone willing to quit on their teammates regardless of the circumstances. That was my initial reaction too, but his reason is to not get injured and jeopardise a move. It is selfish but it’s logical. The thing that’s pissed me off is the alleged demand of 100k+ pw. Again I understand why but the greed annoys me without an higher tier experience markjazzbassist and Palfy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makis Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 Yeah, put yourself in his shoes. Would you risk a torn ACL and jeopardize a contract worth 20 million to play a few extra matches for your current club? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Makis said: Yeah, put yourself in his shoes. Would you risk a torn ACL and jeopardize a contract worth 20 million to play a few extra matches for your current club? Personally, I’d give the extra few games for the club that helped put me on the map. If he gets injured, people will still sign him on because he’ll leave on a free and can recoup at his new/potential new club. Edit: actually, now I think about it like that, sod him! Shukes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted June 20, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 7 minutes ago, Matt said: Personally, I’d give the extra few games for the club that helped put me on the map. If he gets injured, people will still sign him on because he’ll leave on a free and can recoup at his new/potential new club. Edit: actually, now I think about it like that, sod him! Nobody ( apart from us ) would sign a seriously injured player and pay his wages for 6 months when they can just wait until he is fit again and sign him then Romey 1878, markjazzbassist and Zoo 2.0 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: Nobody ( apart from us ) would sign a seriously injured player and pay his wages for 6 months when they can just wait until he is fit again and sign him then That’s assuming he gets an injury, and also depends on the type of injury. Plus in any case he could’ve signed a pre-contract ages ago too if he’d planned ahead, and I’m sure his agent had multiple irons in the fire for him anyway because he’d be getting a big payday too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlbanyNYToffee Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Matt said: Personally, I’d give the extra few games for the club that helped put me on the map. If he gets injured, people will still sign him on because he’ll leave on a free and can recoup at his new/potential new club. Edit: actually, now I think about it like that, sod him! Exactly. He’s not playing for free at Bournemouth. And being focused on injury and yourself above playing and the team is exactly that selfish. Footballing zebras rarely change their stripes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted June 20, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Matt said: That’s assuming he gets an injury, and also depends on the type of injury. Plus in any case he could’ve signed a pre-contract ages ago too if he’d planned ahead, and I’m sure his agent had multiple irons in the fire for him anyway because he’d be getting a big payday too. The point is that there is a risk of injury and therefore a risk that he doesn’t get his move . Maybe it’s not greed that is behind his thinking , he could be thinking about the security of his family . What happens if he does play then gets a career ending injury ? I’m not saying I agree with what he is doing but I can certainly understand why he is doing it Romey 1878 and markjazzbassist 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: The point is that there is a risk of injury and therefore a risk that he doesn’t get his move . Maybe it’s not greed that is behind his thinking , he could be thinking about the security of his family . What happens if he does play then gets a career ending injury ? I’m not saying I agree with what he is doing but I can certainly understand why he is doing it I get that, I really do, hence my initial post. But if he wanted security why hasn’t he sorted out a contract over the last 6 months already. i shouldn’t judge though especially as it’s paper talk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted June 20, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 38 minutes ago, AlbanyNYToffee said: Exactly. He’s not playing for free at Bournemouth. And being focused on injury and yourself above playing and the team is exactly that selfish. Footballing zebras rarely change their stripes. He isn’t being paid by Bournemouth full stop, he is out of contract markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 2 hours ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: He isn’t being paid by Bournemouth full stop, he is out of contract Only because he decided not to take the standard extension of contract to finish the season though. Sont know enough about him to make an opinion though to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 The players are being rushed back to finish the season. Why should he risk an injury for the sake of the league finishing. Wouldn't have a problem if any of our players refused to play at the moment. markjazzbassist and duncanmckenzieismagic 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 His contract is up on June the 30th then he’s a free agent, it’s hardly his fault that the season has ended the way it has, he now has to look after his future and find a new club and not risk a severe injury on a short term contract. I wouldn’t call him disloyal to Bournemouth he has served them well for 7 years, and all things come to an end sooner or later, and both parties have known for a year that the parting of the ways was the 30th June. duncanmckenzieismagic, pete0, chicagoblue and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Shukes said: Only because he decided not to take the standard extension of contract to finish the season though. It’s because his contract expires 30th of June. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Palfy said: It’s because his contract expires 30th of June. I know. But players are being offered small extensions that cover the remaining matches, he is choosing not to take up that option. It’s just a choice at the end of the day, he chose not to. Like most players these days, player comes before the club.... rightly or wrongly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makis Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 For players this is just work. We fans seem to forget this. StevO and markjazzbassist 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 15 hours ago, Shukes said: I know. But players are being offered small extensions that cover the remaining matches, he is choosing not to take up that option. It’s just a choice at the end of the day, he chose not to. Like most players these days, player comes before the club.... rightly or wrongly. I imagine there would be a different reaction on here if that was one of our players! In terms of the player, he is a good solid player, tricky, good feet and can score. He can also play as a wing back which shows he has a brain on him. The two problems I have is how poor he has been this season (fitness accepted) and that I hoped that with Ancellotti we could attract a better calibre of player. He sits in the Iwobi category for me. Shukes and Sibdane 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Bailey said: I imagine there would be a different reaction on here if that was one of our players! If it was Sidibe there would be no complaints from me! Bailey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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