Wall Writer Posted October 14, 2023 Report Share Posted October 14, 2023 15 minutes ago, patto said: Beto for me was an overpriced panic signing because of DCL situation I’ll be very surprised if he gets much playing time. Danjuma is a much better footballer. Panic signing? We were linked with him last September (2022), then apparently had a bid rejected in January, then several bids rejected in this summer. Doesn’t seem to me that it was a panic buy, rather that we’ve been tracking him for some time. StevO, Matt and Romey 1878 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patto Posted October 14, 2023 Report Share Posted October 14, 2023 22 minutes ago, Wall Writer said: Panic signing? We were linked with him last September (2022), then apparently had a bid rejected in January, then several bids rejected in this summer. Doesn’t seem to me that it was a panic buy, rather that we’ve been tracking him for some time. And whoever scouted him is not a good scout as it is we seem to be changing our scouting system. do you think Beto is going to be a good signing. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted October 14, 2023 Report Share Posted October 14, 2023 5 hours ago, patto said: You can’t set the world alight if your not playing. Patterson started the season, didn’t exactly do well. Mykolenko was injured and when fit he got back in the team. Patterson got dropped, I suspect if Coleman was fit he would have been dropped then too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted October 14, 2023 Report Share Posted October 14, 2023 3 hours ago, patto said: Beto for me was an overpriced panic signing because of DCL situation I’ll be very surprised if he gets much playing time. Danjuma is a much better footballer. We literally spent all summer trying to get Beto. Just because you weren’t reading about it every day in the papers doesn’t mean it’s not happening. c1982, Romey 1878 and Matt 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted October 14, 2023 Report Share Posted October 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, StevO said: We literally spent all summer trying to get Beto. Just because you weren’t reading about it every day in the papers doesn’t mean it’s not happening. …and all of the January 23 window. He’s been a long-term target. Players take time to settle/adjust. StevO, Sev and Matt 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patto Posted October 14, 2023 Report Share Posted October 14, 2023 If DCL was not injury prone for nearly 2 years we wouldn’t have gone near Beto and regarding me not reading about Beto I have read about him for about 18 months it coincides with DCL being injured. when I say he was a panic buy what I mean is we didn’t know if DCL was ever going to get fit and took the plunge on Beto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wall Writer Posted October 14, 2023 Report Share Posted October 14, 2023 I don’t think he was in any way a panic buy. I think it was more a case of “how much can we scrape together for a striker and who is available and fits a profile in that price range.” We desperately needed back up for DCL and now we have it. Do I think he’ll be a good signing? I don’t know. I don’t think he has bags of quality, but I think he’ll put in a shift when he plays and provide a presence up front. If that translates into goals and assists, then it’ll be a good signing. But just having the option to rest DCL or bring on another option is also a huge bonus. StevO, Romey 1878, Wiggytop and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patto Posted October 14, 2023 Report Share Posted October 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, Wall Writer said: I don’t think he was in any way a panic buy. I think it was more a case of “how much can we scrape together for a striker and who is available and fits a profile in that price range.” We desperately needed back up for DCL and now we have it. Do I think he’ll be a good signing? I don’t know. I don’t think he has bags of quality, but I think he’ll put in a shift when he plays and provide a presence up front. If that translates into goals and assists, then it’ll be a good signing. But just having the option to rest DCL or bring on another option is also a huge bonus. Look I hope I’m wrong and he bangs the goals in and gets game time. we’ve paid or will do 25m for a player you say hasn’t got much quality I think Chermiti will be a better option he actually has ability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wall Writer Posted October 14, 2023 Report Share Posted October 14, 2023 But you’re not gonna buy a striker who’s guaranteed to bang in 15-20 goals in the Premier League for 25 million. Considering our present financial situation, we’ve got in one guy who is probably one for the future and another guy who can come in as back up for DCL. I think overall that Thelwell has tried to play his hand sensibly here. Sure we would like to have better quality, but we are where we are. At the same time we are still better off than we were 12 months ago with Maupay. So there is improvement. MikeO, StevO and Romey 1878 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sev Posted October 14, 2023 Report Share Posted October 14, 2023 46 minutes ago, patto said: Look I hope I’m wrong and he bangs the goals in and gets game time. we’ve paid or will do 25m for a player you say hasn’t got much quality I think Chermiti will be a better option he actually has ability. It's more than "just" banging in goals. I think Beto already proved that. Give him time to settle. Shukes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patto Posted October 14, 2023 Report Share Posted October 14, 2023 26 minutes ago, Sev said: It's more than "just" banging in goals. I think Beto already proved that. Give him time to settle. What is it he has already proved ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sev Posted October 14, 2023 Report Share Posted October 14, 2023 1 hour ago, patto said: What is it he has already proved ? That he's quite all right intimidating defenders and thereby gives space and possibilities for others to pass/finish. You have seen some of the games he played, havn't you? Gwlad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted October 14, 2023 Report Share Posted October 14, 2023 36 minutes ago, Sev said: That he's quite all right intimidating defenders and thereby gives space and possibilities for others to pass/finish. You have seen some of the games he played, havn't you? I agree he may not be a prolific scorer like DCL, but he bullies and hassles defenders into mistakes that others can benefit from, I like his size strength and commitment maybe the not fastest or blessed with a good first touch, but if he gets in the box and the ball is accurately delivered he will cause chaos for most defence's. Wall Writer and Sev 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patto Posted October 14, 2023 Report Share Posted October 14, 2023 7 minutes ago, Palfy said: I agree he may not be a prolific scorer like DCL, but he bullies and hassles defenders into mistakes that others can benefit from, I like his size strength and commitment maybe the not fastest or blessed with a good first touch, but if he gets in the box and the ball is accurately delivered he will cause chaos for most defence's. I want Beto to come good and lots of people are fighting his corner and then telling me he hasn’t got a good touch and isn’t the fastest we are going to pay 25m for him does this not ring alarm bells for you after all the mistakes we’ve already made in the transfer market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted October 14, 2023 Report Share Posted October 14, 2023 12 minutes ago, patto said: I want Beto to come good and lots of people are fighting his corner and then telling me he hasn’t got a good touch and isn’t the fastest we are going to pay 25m for him does this not ring alarm bells for you after all the mistakes we’ve already made in the transfer market. No because he offers other attributes to his game that we need, he’s going to struggle to take DCL place but when the time comes to step in he won’t let us down. StevO, Sev, Matt and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patto Posted October 14, 2023 Report Share Posted October 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Palfy said: No because he offers other attributes to his game that we need, he’s going to struggle to take DCL place but when the time comes to step in he won’t let us down. I just hope you are right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted October 14, 2023 Report Share Posted October 14, 2023 Let's judge the lad when he has more games for us under his belt. He's big and a bully from what I have seen. Sev, Matt and StevO 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 14, 2023 Report Share Posted October 14, 2023 49 minutes ago, patto said: I just hope you are right We will find out at the end of the season. I can see him as a battering ram doing some of Doucoure’s work if he's injured/suspended for example. I think he's looked handy but rusty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted October 14, 2023 Report Share Posted October 14, 2023 6 minutes ago, Matt said: We will find out at the end of the season. I can see him as a battering ram doing some of Doucoure’s work if he's injured/suspended for example. I think he's looked handy but rusty. Don't say that word Matt, StevO and Romey 1878 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted October 15, 2023 Report Share Posted October 15, 2023 Beto is already doing his job. It allowed Dom a couple more weeks to get fit, and is also giving Dom motivation to perform. He is strong in the air, strong on the ground. His touch isn’t as bad as people think either. He has already shown that his first touch is designed to instantly put defenders on the back foot. Snatching at his shots a bit, but that’s down to a desire to impress. He will relax. 25m to play as back up for. 70m striker is good business isn’t it? Matt, StevO, MikeO and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted October 15, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2023 Beto will come good. His general play is very solid, pace, strength, good lay offs. if he gets a couple of goals he will be flying. Matt, Palfy and StevO 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted October 15, 2023 Report Share Posted October 15, 2023 11 hours ago, MikeO said: Don't say that word Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted October 15, 2023 Report Share Posted October 15, 2023 Shukes, Haf, and myself have agreed on something! I will die a happy man, not expecting it to last though. Matt and Shukes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted October 15, 2023 Report Share Posted October 15, 2023 33 minutes ago, Palfy said: Shukes, Haf, and myself have agreed on something! I will die a happy man, not expecting it to last though. Am I drunk? Palfy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted October 15, 2023 Report Share Posted October 15, 2023 44 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: Am I drunk? You normally are but not on this occasion. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patto Posted October 15, 2023 Report Share Posted October 15, 2023 4 hours ago, Shukes said: Beto is already doing his job. It allowed Dom a couple more weeks to get fit, and is also giving Dom motivation to perform. He is strong in the air, strong on the ground. His touch isn’t as bad as people think either. He has already shown that his first touch is designed to instantly put defenders on the back foot. Snatching at his shots a bit, but that’s down to a desire to impress. He will relax. 25m to play as back up for. 70m striker is good business isn’t it? Chermiti ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted October 15, 2023 Report Share Posted October 15, 2023 33 minutes ago, patto said: Chermiti ? Chermiti is one for the future mate. He has looked lost when coming on so far. Im hoping it’s just him getting used of the pace of this league. Give him a few months or so and we could start seeing what he’s about. But at this point he isn’t looking anywhere near the first team. Matt and Romey 1878 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggytop Posted October 15, 2023 Report Share Posted October 15, 2023 5 hours ago, Shukes said: Beto is already doing his job. It allowed Dom a couple more weeks to get fit, and is also giving Dom motivation to perform. He is strong in the air, strong on the ground. His touch isn’t as bad as people think either. He has already shown that his first touch is designed to instantly put defenders on the back foot. Snatching at his shots a bit, but that’s down to a desire to impress. He will relax. 25m to play as back up for. 70m striker is good business isn’t it? Beto has taken a huge amount of pressure of Dom being our only person who can lead the line. Dom being injured or not fully fit knowing we only had Maupay as his replacement would have put increasingly more pressure on him to return too soon, knowing that everyone was expecting him to perform. Having a similar player takes that pressure away, and I think it’s showing in how Dommis now back and playing more freely. Shukes, Matt and Romey 1878 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patto Posted October 15, 2023 Report Share Posted October 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Shukes said: Chermiti is one for the future mate. He has looked lost when coming on so far. Im hoping it’s just him getting used of the pace of this league. Give him a few months or so and we could start seeing what he’s about. But at this point he isn’t looking anywhere near the first team. On his last outing I thought he looked better than Beto admittedly he was only on minutes but looks as if he has better control of the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted October 15, 2023 Report Share Posted October 15, 2023 15 minutes ago, patto said: On his last outing I thought he looked better than Beto admittedly he was only on minutes but looks as if he has better control of the ball. Perhaps but Chermiti didnt look great in the cup tie & Beto changed the game for us there. Both will hopefully play a part this season. End of the day this is the best striker depth we have had since Yakubu & Saha for me. Romey 1878, Shukes and Matt 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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