c1982 Posted July 27, 2012 Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 Surely it shows Moyes knows his players, when to put them in, when to drop them out. It's easy for us to say what he should do but in reality it falls on Moyes on the advice of his staff and it's safe to say he's got it right more than he's got it wrong! StevO and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted July 27, 2012 Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 how was it unjust? Duffy played very well and has certainly done himself no harm, but was dropped for a player with a lot more experience. It was a common sense play in my opinion. As it sends the message no matter how well you play, you won't force your way into the team. He has more experience in that position, had a good spell on loan, was lucky for injuries to give him a chance and had earned the opportunity to stick in the team with his performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted July 27, 2012 Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 As it sends the message no matter how well you play, you won't force your way into the team. He has more experience in that position, had a good spell on loan, was lucky for injuries to give him a chance and had earned the opportunity to stick in the team with his performance. Christ, for being dropped against Citeh?! Over dramatic.... He has more experience in that position - 5 or 10 metres more infield - but Hibbert has years of playing against the best players at a much higher level. Shane seems to be level headed, im sure he was disappointed but Im sure he would understand that the boss wants his most experienced players in a game like that. What he did was earn an argument to be included more often, not this golden pass to be starter. Heits has been dropped despite a good run of games, Jags the same and Duffy was treated the same. Ive no doubt we will see more of Duffy this year because he is a developing talent and will be nurtured as such. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted July 27, 2012 Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 Christ, for being dropped against Citeh?! Over dramatic.... He has more experience in that position - 5 or 10 metres more infield - but Hibbert has years of playing against the best players at a much higher level. Shane seems to be level headed, im sure he was disappointed but Im sure he would understand that the boss wants his most experienced players in a game like that. What he did was earn an argument to be included more often, not this golden pass to be starter. Heits has been dropped despite a good run of games, Jags the same and Duffy was treated the same. Ive no doubt we will see more of Duffy this year because he is a developing talent and will be nurtured as such. Heitinga has been dropped playing well for Jags who was playing shite. Then after Jags injury they were rotated at the end of this season, if it was Heitinga who came back for injury he's be parked on the bench. Moyes has favourites, and doesn't play players on how they have performed on the pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted July 27, 2012 Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 Duffy played well enough to deserve the chance to continue at CB. Dropping him for Hibbert was unjust, albeit luckily for Moyes Hibbert had a great game. hate bullshit statements like that...cos a decision you don't agree with worked it makes it lucky..do me a favour StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 27, 2012 Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 You cant say dropping Duffy was the wrong choice so no point in bringing that up. Fact is Hibbert played well and Moyes got it right. Anyway, we will see. If he gets more game time the trust issue will show, if there is one. In my opinion, theres nothing in it. Moyes wouldnt have brought him back from his loan spell if he didnt think he could do the job. I brought it up because you had in your previous post, otherwise I wouldn't have. And that's because I've never said it was the wrong choice to put Hibbert in, my point, as I've pointed out, is that it showed a lack of trust despite him having shown he has the tools. Those performances should've earned trust (for any player, not just Duffy), but apparently that's not the way it works. The fact that Hibbert played well is irrelevant because I'm talking about beforehand, not in retrospect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted July 27, 2012 Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 (edited) hate bullshit statements like that...cos a decision you don't agree with worked it makes it lucky..do me a favour No, luckily Hibbert played well otherwise the fans would have condemned him for dropping Duffy. Edited July 27, 2012 by pete0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted July 27, 2012 Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 ahh got ya..let you off then pete0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flaminfox Posted July 27, 2012 Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 I was actually hoping for a heitinga/duffy partnership this season, that would be amazing Hopefully Duffy will be become 3rd or 2nd choice this year and Moyes will ease distin out of the pecking order and only as a backup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_E Posted July 27, 2012 Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 I was actually hoping for a heitinga/duffy partnership this season, that would be amazing Hopefully Duffy will be become 3rd or 2nd choice this year and Moyes will ease distin out of the pecking order and only as a backup. Distin is still rightfully ahead of Duffy in the pecking order for me. I'm all for giving youngsters a chance, so I agree with those of you who say Duffy should have kept his place against City based on his earlier performances and the fact that there still wasn't another real centre back fit. But we shouldn't be pushing for them to play ahead of players who are still better players and have been for years. BTW, I like Duffy, but I do think he lacks pace to be a top centre back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted July 27, 2012 Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 Distin is still rightfully ahead of Duffy in the pecking order for me. I'm all for giving youngsters a chance, so I agree with those of you who say Duffy should have kept his place against City based on his earlier performances and the fact that there still wasn't another real centre back fit. But we shouldn't be pushing for them to play ahead of players who are still better players and have been for years. BTW, I like Duffy, but I do think he lacks pace to be a top centre back. Davie Wier done well without it. Speed isn't a necessity for a centre half, it just helps them recover after a cock up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted July 28, 2012 Report Share Posted July 28, 2012 I think Duffy has all the attributes to be a top centre half and on the whole he did very well when he was called upon last season but I thought he looked shakey in the game before City and so I think Moyes got it spot on pulling him out for Hibbo. surely the fact that Hibbo had a blinder vindicates Moyse's decision anyway? I really dont think there are any trust issues, I just think Moyes is looking after the lad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 28, 2012 Report Share Posted July 28, 2012 BTW, I like Duffy, but I do think he lacks pace to be a top centre back. Do you not rate Heitinga as a top centre back then? Because he often looks like he's running in a swamp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_E Posted July 28, 2012 Report Share Posted July 28, 2012 Do you not rate Heitinga as a top centre back then? Because he often looks like he's running in a swamp. I don't. And I'm pretty sure Heitinga's faster than Duffy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 28, 2012 Report Share Posted July 28, 2012 I don't. That hurts me . Lowensda 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_E Posted July 28, 2012 Report Share Posted July 28, 2012 That hurts me . I'll try to sugarcoat blunt statements like that from now on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted July 28, 2012 Report Share Posted July 28, 2012 I wouldn't worry Steve, Romey isn't known for his "sugar-coated" statements I on the other hand wallow in the sugary goodness!!! Sugarcoat it for me! Sugarcoat it for me?! Please.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted July 28, 2012 Report Share Posted July 28, 2012 I wouldn't worry Steve, Romey isn't known for his "sugar-coated" statements I on the other hand wallow in the sugary goodness!!! Sugarcoat it for me! Sugarcoat it for me?! Please.... Although cats can be fluffy and adorable they have nothing on loyal protectors like Heitinga. marcopaulo and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 28, 2012 Report Share Posted July 28, 2012 I'll try to sugarcoat blunt statements like that from now on I wouldn't worry Steve, Romey isn't known for his "sugar-coated" statements I on the other hand wallow in the sugary goodness!!! Sugarcoat it for me! Sugarcoat it for me?! Please.... Although cats can be fluffy and adorable they have nothing on loyal protectors like Heitinga. I love TT . Matt and pete0 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markduff Posted July 30, 2012 Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 Here is a code for a fantasy footy league lads.....8721-45405. Hope to get a signed jersey from shane for the winner at the end of season! If your not in ya can't win Good luck! pete0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted July 30, 2012 Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 Here is a code for a fantasy footy league lads.....8721-45405. Hope to get a signed jersey from shane for the winner at the end of season! If your not in ya can't win Good luck! Cheers Mark, in now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted July 30, 2012 Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 I'm in. Make that shirt Large. Lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted July 30, 2012 Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 I'm in cheers Mark & Bill dream on pal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 8, 2012 Report Share Posted August 8, 2012 http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/moore-plays-down-duffy-105655213.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 8, 2012 Report Share Posted August 8, 2012 Shane Duffy @ShaneDuffy34 1m “@EfcJgray: @ShaneDuffy34 loan move to tranmere ?” No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 Off out on loan again? Shane Duffy @ShaneDuffy34 Everton on fire again. Nice to get 45 mins. Thanks for all ur messages. Looking forward to playing week in and week out again soon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 Looked much older than his years tonight. I really hope he's given the chance to be our centre back for many years to come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamryanstover Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 Off out on loan again? Shane Duffy @ShaneDuffy34 Everton on fire again. Nice to get 45 mins. Thanks for all ur messages. Looking forward to playing week in and week out again soon! Maybe this means somone else is leaving? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 I don't think so, we're down to four centre backs now after the sale of Yobo. I think it's just an innocent comment that he hopes to be a regular in the near future. There is only Duffy, Distin, Heitinga and Jagielka at the club with first team experience (I'm not including Hibbert or Neville). I had suspected that Heitinga may leave although Steve Round said earlier this week that no one is leaving.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 I don't think Shane would be allowed to make comments on other players so I think it's guarenteed that he's going. I'm glad that he is too because he looks like a really good prospect but sadly isn't good enough to get ahead of the likes of Heitinga, Distin and Jagielka in the CB pecking-order. Good luck to him wherever he ends up going (hopefully Championship). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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