Vranny

This is the key difference, along with not being stuck out wide. He’s a player with good ball control, can pick a pass and has the strength to hold off opponents. It makes him ideal to keep the ball in the middle and break through the press.
He’s never had the speed or crossing ability to be playing as a winger in a 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 formation. It’s just a pity that it’s taken our central midfield dropping to such a low level (pre signings of Onana, Gana and Garner) for him to be given a proper chance there. 

Exactly, this is my point. He has t just suddenly learnt how to play football…. He is just being put in positions that compliment his skill set, rather than stifle them.
Its almost like he has a manager and coach that understand his ability.

This is the key difference, along with not being stuck out wide. He’s a player with good ball control, can pick a pass and has the strength to hold off opponents. It makes him ideal to keep the ball in the middle and break through the press.
He’s never had the speed or crossing ability to be playing as a winger in a 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 formation. It’s just a pity that it’s taken our central midfield dropping to such a low level (pre signings of Onana, Gana and Garner) for him to be given a proper chance there. 

The next step… stop conceding so many corners! 😂

He just had a poor game, it happens, especially with young players. He found it hard to get into the game as everything went through Grey, who played very well.
I'm sure Frank, Coady and the squad know how to handle it, and I think being subbed was the right thing.
If we could hold off on the pitchfork and dunking instincts for a bit, and see it for what it was, a bad game, that would be nice. 

Yeah @AlbanyNYToffee start pulling your fucking weight around here

Intentional or not, never a red. Richarlison earned getting fouled - had it been a more dangerous challenge/had he been injured, perhaps a red but he invited that

Well, in certain conditions they bounce a bit, but I generally like to keep them around (my) middle wicket. 

Seeing as we are talking about personal matters, I feel like this might be a good time to ask about the size of your helmet?

Went with Gordon but truly would've given it to the woodwork if I could

Pleased and quietly excited. He could be what Naismith was to Lukaku; annoying, chasing everything, creating space, chipping in with important goals and freeing up DCL to use his speed and energy to get more. More a CF than a striker and we need that. 

beore or afer 🤓

Roy fkn Hodgson
 
Man looked like he was perpetually waking up from a nap in the rest home.  Haven't seen someone less interested in their job since Maeby Bluth at the banana stand. 

He’s the only who looks remotely close to creating anything for us… most progressive passer we have ( apart from Coady & Tarkowski switching play ).
Play Onana, Iwobi & Gueye ( hopefully ).

That’d mean his first game back is at Goodison - we all know how that ends!

We wouldn’t like. Just like they did when Spurs were in for him the shite would’ve just come in and taken him.
This nonsense really needs to stop. 

We only have 3 wide players? I'd say that's a shortage. If we lose Gordon our only wide players would be McNeil and Gray, which is....ooof.

Becoming a headless chicken !!  He has been for a long time.

You been putting your red in the fridge again. 

I imagine that’s only happened due to the De Jong deal being dead in the water then. Hopefully United are adding another bad egg to their dressing room 

and they are welcome to him - wouldn't have thought he is the type of player they need right now either.
That's one thing I am impressed with for the signings we are making,  they seen to all good of characters. I think Rabiot's has been questionable in the past.  
 

Two porpoises, 12 bombs, one new Everton stadium
Henry Winter finds out why Everton’s Bramley-Moore Dock was never going to to be the average new-build   new Construction has begun on the Bramley-Moore Dock CHRISTOPHER FURLONG/GETTY IMAGES Henry Winter Thursday August 04 2022, 10.30pm, The Times   When Everton’s contractors arrived in a convoy of six lorries at the padlocked Bramley-Moore Dock on Liverpool’s waterfront for the first time, they found a rave finishing up in a warehouse in one corner of the site. They then discovered two porpoises swimming in the basin and 12 unexploded shells from the days combating the Luftwaffe. Everton’s new stadium was never going to be your average build.
Everton also found initial resistance to the project from some of their passionate fanbase, understandably loathe to leave their beloved, atmospheric Goodison Park. Now supporters can see the huge new single-tiered South Stand rising up behind the listed dock walls, capable of taking 13,000 home fans with the bottom section of rail-seating. Called the Everton Stadium before namingrights are sold, “the people’s project” will be a 52,888-seater venue with the potential to increase that to 62,000 given eventual changes to standing regulations.
These are strange times for Everton with fans craving short-term fixes for Frank Lampard’s team, notably a central midfielder and centre forward, while the long term is being addressed. Everton send up a drone every week to chart developments and soon found fans requesting permission to fly their own drones around the rising stands (anyone wanting to fly over the site needs clearance from John Lennon Airport — imagine that). Ten fans gather every Sunday and post footage, some with music, others with commentary.
They have plenty to comment on. It is remarkable how much work has been done in a year by the contractors, Laing O’Rourke, with the corners in, the stands growing and the internal refit beginning in December. It’s all on schedule for a 2024-25 season at a capped cost believed to be £555 million. It will be built. Even with all the debate over Everton’s owner, Farhad Moshiri, and his shareholding in the Russian holding company USM, there remains total certainty over Bramley-Moore. “In the four years I’ve been working here he has not flinched,” Aidan Miller, stadium development head of finance, says. “He’s been absolutely committed. We are going to deliver this.” There is even hopeful chatter about the possibility of asking Sir Paul McCartney to open it.
An artist's impression of Everton's Bramley-Moore Dock Stadium and Goodison Legacy plans EVERTON/PA The Times was shown around on Wednesday by Miller and Gareth Jacques, project leader at Laing O’Rourke Construction. They explained the complexities and the beauty of a site named after John Bramley-Moore, chairman of the dock committee in 1848; it is also the name of a lively, old-school boozer over the road which is going to make, to borrow some nautical parlance, a packet on match-day.
 
After the ravers had gone on July 26, 2021, other visitors also had to be coaxed gently out. “Porpoises haven’t been seen in the Mersey estuary for 22 years and then we took possession of the site and these two swam into the dock,” Jacques, a rugby fan who has worked on the Etihad, Old Trafford, Ricoh and Cardiff City Stadium projects, says. “You couldn’t make it up! They were just nosey. We had eels, hundreds of mullet fish in there.” All had to be guided out. Cormorant pontoons were placed next door in Nelson Dock.
Jacques’s staff took sonar readings of the dock. “Every time we picked up a signal from metal objects we had to investigate with our dive team,” Jacques adds. “There were 400 identified targets and we had to make sure it wasn’t unexploded ordnance. Over two months, we found 12 artillery shells. They were ours that we fired at the Luftwaffe. They were stored in one of the warehouses and fell into the dock.”
The Royal Navy and Royal Logistics Corps helped out, bringing the shells to the surface and placing them carefully on the western wharf where nobody was working. Then they sandbagged them and did a controlled explosion. “All 12 exploded,” Jacques continues. “It was time-consuming investigating each of the 400 targets, but if we put the piling down and hit one of those [shells] with a piling rig then we’d be having a very different discussion.”
Hard hats on, Jacques and Martin lead me out into the rising stadium. We walk across the huge plaza where 11,000 fans will gather before and after games. We pause by the listed Hydraulic Tower, dating back to 1883, currently scaffolded and crying out to be turned into a club museum — Everton have countless pieces of memorabilia in storage.
The Times’ chief football writer takes up his place in the new press box HENRY WINTER   The attraction of the site is obvious, scarcely a mile from Pier Head and the famous skyline. “One of the stereotypical shots of Liverpool is from the Wirral, looking across, and a lot of that focus is on the Three Graces,” says Miller of the Royal Liver Building, the Cunard Building and the Port of Liverpool Building. “The stadium would become an extension of that — a fourth Grace.”
We head to where the centre-circle will be and look up and up at the South Stand. “It dwarves the Kop,” Miller says. This is not Everton being competitive with their celebrated neighbours, more a matter of pride. Miller is quick to praise Liverpool’s “very good” work increasing Anfield’s capacity, but any thoughts of redeveloping Goodison were quickly dismissed. Too hemmed in.
Will it be the best stadium in the city? “Yes, 100 per cent,” Miller replies. “Without question,” adds Jacques. They are keen to emphasise how the whole community will benefit with jobs and increased tourism. “This is a project that is good for all the city,” Miller says, “and although Liverpool is tribal it is also very protective of its own. It wants the city to grow together.”
Fans are key, of course. “Gwladys Street is tight and noisy and we need to transfer that here and make this feel [like] it’s their home,” Miller continues. “The design has tried to bring fans closer to the pitch, tried to make that home stand as steep as it can be.” The football is also key. “We have to give people a reason to make noise,” Miller agrees
 
What was also key in this development was not falling prey to escalating costs, as befell the likes of Wembley. Everton and their chief executive Denise Barrett-Baxendale worked with Laing O’Rourke to agree a fixed cost and commitment to build — important with Jacques warning that the price of raw materials like steel was liable to rise. “Denise’s approach has been to de-risk delivery of the project,” Miller says. “We transferred the cost responsibility to Laing O’Rourke to give the club cost certainty.”
What of the Everton drone army? Jacques loves their weekly visits. “They’re excited by the progress,” he says. “Their passion comes through. It’s emotional for them — it’s Everton’s new home; it’s their new home.” Something to rave about.
   

Try to stay on topic please. 

The problem(to me) with people like Gana is that they want to pretend people with different beliefs or lifestyles don’t exist or shouldn’t exist, and if they do acknowledge them it’s usually to do so in a negative way. No one is expecting anybody to go suck a dick after wearing a rainbow shirt. It’s simply accepting a persecuted group into a society which already should be accepting them. 
Also, when Liverpool(the team) gets persecuted like homosexuals have been for well… forever, then I’ll gladly wear a red shirt to work to show my solidarity with them.