johnh Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 4 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said: stuff tastes awful. beans on toast? the english breakfast is a joke as well. yes i'm serious. i often wonder if the weather prevents english folks from growing vegetables, seems to be a large absence of them in their "cuisine" if you can even call it that. Mark, don't know where you got the absence of vegetables from? All supermarkets are stacked out with fresh vegetables and most people have a healthy diet of veg. Currently, my fridge/freezer is stacked out with Pots, Cauliflower, Broccoli, Peas, Sprouts. Also salads, Lettuce, Cucumber, Tomato's, Celery. Having said all that, a well cooked English breakfast is one of the best meals you will get anywhere. Beats American fast food any day! Bailey and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 21 minutes ago, johnh said: a well cooked English breakfast is one of the best meals you will get anywhere. Beats American fast food any day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 33 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said: stuff tastes awful. beans on toast? the english breakfast is a joke as well. yes i'm serious. i often wonder if the weather prevents english folks from growing vegetables, seems to be a large absence of them in their "cuisine" if you can even call it that. Compared to waffles, that stuff they call bacon in America, and maple syrup... More chance of me convincing the rest on here that Gana is rubbish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 58 minutes ago, johnh said: Mark, don't know where you got the absence of vegetables from? All supermarkets are stacked out with fresh vegetables and most people have a healthy diet of veg. Currently, my fridge/freezer is stacked out with Pots, Cauliflower, Broccoli, Peas, Sprouts. Also salads, Lettuce, Cucumber, Tomato's, Celery. Having said all that, a well cooked English breakfast is one of the best meals you will get anywhere. Beats American fast food any day! I’m not talking about fast food, I don’t eat that stuff either. I’m not acting like American cuisine is good, it’s not. But neither is English foodz Classic English meals are a pie like you eat at the match, there is meat, is there veg in there? Fish and chips (no veg)? English breakfast, etc. maybe it’s because I was a vegetarian for a long time but your meals look very meat and starch heavy. Even the “chippy and curry” where you get curry with chips. That’s all starch. I prefer Mediterranean (Greek, Italian, Lebanese) or various Asian cuisines (Thai, Vietnamese, Korean, Japanese) The most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 1 hour ago, johnh said: Mark, don't know where you got the absence of vegetables from? All supermarkets are stacked out with fresh vegetables and most people have a healthy diet of veg. Currently, my fridge/freezer is stacked out with Pots, Cauliflower, Broccoli, Peas, Sprouts. Also salads, Lettuce, Cucumber, Tomato's, Celery. Having said all that, a well cooked English breakfast is one of the best meals you will get anywhere. Beats American fast food any day! Then you haven't had a Southern American breakfast then. Any home cooked meal beats fast food! Back me up, @markjazzbassist markjazzbassist and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubecula Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 1 hour ago, johnh said: Mark, don't know where you got the absence of vegetables from? All supermarkets are stacked out with fresh vegetables and most people have a healthy diet of veg. Currently, my fridge/freezer is stacked out with Pots, Cauliflower, Broccoli, Peas, Sprouts. Also salads, Lettuce, Cucumber, Tomato's, Celery. Having said all that, a well cooked English breakfast is one of the best meals you will get anywhere. Beats American fast food any day! a good full English is only beaten by a good full Irish and not by much imho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 2 hours ago, markjazzbassist said: I’m not talking about fast food, I don’t eat that stuff either. I’m not acting like American cuisine is good, it’s not. But neither is English foodz Classic English meals are a pie like you eat at the match, there is meat, is there veg in there? Fish and chips (no veg)? English breakfast, etc. maybe it’s because I was a vegetarian for a long time but your meals look very meat and starch heavy. Even the “chippy and curry” where you get curry with chips. That’s all starch. I prefer Mediterranean (Greek, Italian, Lebanese) or various Asian cuisines (Thai, Vietnamese, Korean, Japanese) The most. Pies have vegetables in, fish and chips tends to come with mushy peas and the curry sauce base is fruit. Asian has a lot of variety but can't agree with Italian and Greek, one is mostly starchy pasta and the other is very potato (and lemon) heavy. As for breakfast do many countries have veg to start the day? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 25 minutes ago, pete0 said: Pies have vegetables in, fish and chips tends to come with mushy peas and the curry sauce base is fruit. Asian has a lot of variety but can't agree with Italian and Greek, one is mostly starchy pasta and the other is very potato (and lemon) heavy. As for breakfast do many countries have veg to start the day? i had a fresh juice made of vegetables, fruit and fresh ginger every morning for the last week. i have a juicer though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 10 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said: i had a fresh juice made of vegetables, fruit and fresh ginger every morning for the last week. i have a juicer though. A lot over here have them in their cupboards thanks to the nutribullet fad diet. My point is that most countries don't have veg for breakfast. Even without the meat a full English holds up as a decent meal. Egg, mushrooms, tomato, baked beans and potato (usually hash browns but in the posher places you might get bubble and squeak). Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 Bubble and squeak for breakfast ? Wbat madness is this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnh Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 10 hours ago, markjazzbassist said: i had a fresh juice made of vegetables, fruit and fresh ginger every morning for the last week. i have a juicer though. A full English takes a lot of time. Most people only have it on special occasions, I would say that the most common breakfast over here is Toast, tea/coffee, porridge or cereal. Today, I had toasted muffins and a mug of tea. rubecula and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 32 minutes ago, johnh said: Today, I had toasted muffins and a mug of tea. Today I had a Complan, same as every morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 On 14/01/2019 at 21:43, markjazzbassist said: stuff tastes awful. beans on toast? the english breakfast is a joke as well. yes i'm serious. i often wonder if the weather prevents english folks from growing vegetables, seems to be a large absence of them in their "cuisine" if you can even call it that. I'm curious, why do you say that? How often have you eaten in England? There is this stereotype developed by American film, soap operas and comedies is just so far removed from reality it's untrue, just like the bad teeth thing and the pompous accent. Don't get me wrong, they exist but they're the minority, as with any stereotype. I'm a massive foody, and I love cooking. Only food I don't really enjoy is Greek (ate 2 times at 2 different restaurants, got food poisoning both times) and Chinese (very oily, but I love most other Asian cuisine). The English breakfast can be, and mostly is, a work of culinary art. When I was home over Christmas, I had one every other day because it's such a treat from the local cafés (Hoylake and West Kirby have a few crackers). I don't mean pub food or greasy-spoon shit - they're supposed to be cheap and quick, you get what you pay for. But a true English Breakfast is special. I've even enjoyed the vegetarian ones! My only complaint is that they're often too small A roast dinner is pretty much only vegetables. Fish, chips and peas, pies are full of veg... British cuisine is fantastic, varied and vastly underrated. I'd happily take you on a food tour if you're ever over this way, we could follow it up with a Swiss food tour afterwards. If you think the British are bad with veggies, wait until you see what's here - cheese, bread, potato, egg, pickled onions, gurkins and wine for the most part - and I love it On 14/01/2019 at 20:33, johnh said: Particularly if you live in the Alps where you can't get it! only a quid a tin, if you can find them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnh Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 I agree with Matt about the English Breakfast being a work of culinary art. Some years ago I used to visit Hebden Bridge in Yorkshire regularly to visit my dear old Dad when he was alive. I used to stay in the White Lion (Hotel/pub). Their English breakfast was the best I have ever had. When they put the big oval plate in front of you, everything was still sizzling, straight out of the frying pan. Egg, bacon, sausage, tomato, beans, mushrooms. Choice of toast, fried bread or hash browns. Lasted me until tea time (evening meal). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 Matt I’ve eaten there a few times and eaten plenty at pubs here from British ex pats. I did a simple google and all your papers have articles titled “English food it’s not as bad anymore”, “Europeans rated English food higher than before” etc. it’s not just Americans, euros don’t like your food either and it has a bad rap with them as well . Honestly I’m kind of shocked this is news to you guys, Americans are well versed At how others view our food and how some of us view it as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 I think I read you were rated by tourists like 11 or 12th best food in Europe. Really holding your own with Estonia there lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 2 hours ago, markjazzbassist said: Matt I’ve eaten there a few times and eaten plenty at pubs here from British ex pats. I did a simple google and all your papers have articles titled “English food it’s not as bad anymore”, “Europeans rated English food higher than before” etc. it’s not just Americans, euros don’t like your food either and it has a bad rap with them as well . Honestly I’m kind of shocked this is news to you guys, Americans are well versed At how others view our food and how some of us view it as well. I'm not a fan of your Wendy's and Deny's style of dining massive portions of tasteless food, but I have eaten in some excellent restaurants in Seattle and San Francisco, and I've eaten in some great restaurants over here. But any country responsible for inflicting McDonald's KFC and dominos on the world haven't got a lot to brag about when it comes to culinary delights MikeO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 15 minutes ago, Palfy said: I'm not a fan of your Wendy's and Deny's style of dining massive portions of tasteless food, but I have eaten in some excellent restaurants in Seattle and San Francisco, and I've eaten in some great restaurants over here. But any country responsible for inflicting McDonald's KFC and dominos on the world haven't got a lot to brag about when it comes to culinary delights again i'm not bragging, i'm simply saying we are self aware of our shitty food. meanwhile english are either willfully ignorant or blissfully unaware or their bad cuisine. its like you guys just realized when i posted that your food may not be that great, which is a little scary having tasted your wares. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 Wendy’s is amazing expats in the US is not the same as cooks in England any more than an Asian restaurant is the same outside of Asia, Mark. Until you’ve experienced it, don’t knock it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 10 hours ago, Matt said: Only food I don't really enjoy is Greek (ate 2 times at 2 different restaurants, got food poisoning both times) I could cure you of that (not the food poisoning, the dislike of Greek food) no problem Matt; it takes a lot to excite my taste-buds nowadays but the thought of a couple of places makes me salivate. Unfortunately they're both in Zakynthos so we can't exactly meet up for a snack; I'll be there in four and a bit months time though, I'll send you a picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Matt said: Wendy’s is amazing expats in the US is not the same as cooks in England any more than an Asian restaurant is the same outside of Asia, Mark. Until you’ve experienced it, don’t knock it i have, i spent time in london Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 1 hour ago, MikeO said: I could cure you of that (not the food poisoning, the dislike of Greek food) no problem Matt; it takes a lot to excite my taste-buds nowadays but the thought of a couple of places makes me salivate. Unfortunately they're both in Zakynthos so we can't exactly meet up for a snack; I'll be there in four and a bit months time though, I'll send you a picture. I love the look of it but the smells just trigger memories 19 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said: i have, i spent time in london That’s the south, doesn’t count Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnh Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 3 hours ago, Palfy said: I'm not a fan of your Wendy's and Deny's style of dining massive portions of tasteless food, but I have eaten in some excellent restaurants in Seattle and San Francisco, and I've eaten in some great restaurants over here. But any country responsible for inflicting McDonald's KFC and dominos on the world haven't got a lot to brag about when it comes to culinary delights I had a really excellent meal in the Lark and the Dove in Atlanta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted January 19, 2019 Report Share Posted January 19, 2019 On 15/01/2019 at 01:19, markjazzbassist said: i had a fresh juice made of vegetables, fruit and fresh ginger every morning for the last week. i have a juicer though. I think this is enough evidence to ban MJB from the site rubecula 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubecula Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 On 19/01/2019 at 14:41, Bailey said: I think this is enough evidence to ban MJB from the site I agree there is no mention of alcohol Bailey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 On 19/01/2019 at 09:41, Bailey said: I think this is enough evidence to ban MJB from the site yes healthy eating is the antithesis of everton 5 minutes ago, rubecula said: I agree there is no mention of alcohol you have booze for breakfast? are you still in university? lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 10 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said: yes healthy eating is the antithesis of everton you have booze for breakfast? are you still in university? lol He forgot to mention that he doesn't get up till 2:00pm Bailey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubecula Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 1 hour ago, markjazzbassist said: yes healthy eating is the antithesis of everton you have booze for breakfast? are you still in university? lol breakfast of champions '' Bailey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubecula Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 ps Palfy do not cast aspersions if I am up at 2:0pm I have a tummy upset Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 22, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 12 hours ago, rubecula said: breakfast of champions '' Speaking of... My 25th birthday breakfast was Guinness on Coco Pops because we were in a tent in Wales with no milk. rubecula 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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