Cornish Steve Posted July 17, 2015 Report Share Posted July 17, 2015 I'm willing to go with Galloway and Browning for the first half of the season. It's a bit of a risk, but not a big one. If it works out, we have an excellent core of young defenders. In an emergency, Barry can always play there. If we find ourselves struggling, buy a player in the January window. It's OK to take calculated risks sometimes. Fans get upset if we're unlucky - injuries, etc. - but we'd be laughing if it works out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn31 Posted July 17, 2015 Report Share Posted July 17, 2015 I'm willing to go with Galloway and Browning for the first half of the season. It's a bit of a risk, but not a big one. If it works out, we have an excellent core of young defenders. In an emergency, Barry can always play there. If we find ourselves struggling, buy a player in the January window. It's OK to take calculated risks sometimes. Fans get upset if we're unlucky - injuries, etc. - but we'd be laughing if it works out. God no. That's not what a club that's going to challenge for Europe would do. They'd get eaten alive by Aguero and the likes. Think both of them need loan spells of playing week in week out before I'd ever want to rely on them as our first backup CB in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted July 17, 2015 Report Share Posted July 17, 2015 I'm willing to go with Galloway and Browning for the first half of the season. It's a bit of a risk, but not a big one. If it works out, we have an excellent core of young defenders. In an emergency, Barry can always play there. If we find ourselves struggling, buy a player in the January window. It's OK to take calculated risks sometimes. Fans get upset if we're unlucky - injuries, etc. - but we'd be laughing if it works out. agreed. Any and all money now should be going on that creative #10. CB back up is important, no doubt, but it's not essential this window. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted July 17, 2015 Report Share Posted July 17, 2015 And we have Besic, who by all accounts is actually a decent CB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted July 17, 2015 Report Share Posted July 17, 2015 And we have Besic, who by all accounts is actually a decent CB. I'm not confident that any of the above could or should be tested in a "you have to play" format. By all means introduce them when we are winning comfortably or in a low level cup game and take it from there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn31 Posted July 17, 2015 Report Share Posted July 17, 2015 agreed. Any and all money now should be going on that creative #10. CB back up is important, no doubt, but it's not essential this window. No. Stop the madness. Let's just re-sign Toto Nsiala because he probably wasn't given a fair shake! I like you all, but to say we don't need to bring in at least one centerback with first team experience is madness! Barry wouldn't be terrible as long as the ball stays in front of him, but if he gets beat, then its a 1 v 1 with the keeper or the other centerback having to make a last ditch tackle! Too slow. I love Mo Besic, but he's too reckless and probably not good enough in the air to be a centerback. We need to bring in cover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted July 17, 2015 Report Share Posted July 17, 2015 No. Stop the madness. Let's just re-sign Toto Nsiala because he probably wasn't given a fair shake! I like you all, but to say we don't need to bring in at least one centerback with first team experience is madness! Barry wouldn't be terrible as long as the ball stays in front of him, but if he gets beat, then its a 1 v 1 with the keeper or the other centerback having to make a last ditch tackle! Too slow. I love Mo Besic, but he's too reckless and probably not good enough in the air to be a centerback. We need to bring in cover. we do. It's just not priority number 1. We've got theoretical CB cover. We don't have a single AMC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted July 17, 2015 Report Share Posted July 17, 2015 Stones or Jagielka gets a bad one and we're fucked without a decent back up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearso Posted July 18, 2015 Report Share Posted July 18, 2015 I've no clue whether we'll sign Evans, nor at what fee. But actually neither did I have any clue yesterday, as the articles started appearing, filled as they were with suspicious near-fact and fact-like phrases such as "close to sealing," "on the verge of," "it is understood that," "expected to be completed," and "coming days." Some rumoured deals do of course become completed deals. Some are so silly as to be scotched immediately. Yet others, like the Evans story, seem logical enough, given a club's needs, likely player availability, plus a sort of default, pre-disgruntled assumption that we'll overpay. (This isn't unique to a Toffee's genetic makeup, is it?). I'm still trying to learn, however, to be wary of those near-fact and fact-like phrases, as rumoured deals exist on a spectrum from "lunatic fabrication" to "done deal." And even a "done deal" isn't, necessarily. What number will Jonny be assigned? DK? Is that you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted July 18, 2015 Report Share Posted July 18, 2015 DK? Is that you?Shades of him, eh? I thought the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted July 18, 2015 Report Share Posted July 18, 2015 we do. It's just not priority number 1. We've got theoretical CB cover. We don't have a single AMC. I agree, i would much rather us loan a CB for this year as i really think between Browning, Galloway, Barry and maybe Besic we have it covered, touch would we are hoping that neither Stones or Jags gets a serious injury though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deacs Posted July 18, 2015 Report Share Posted July 18, 2015 How would they have any choice if he runs his contract down? They'll either get rid now or get him to sign an extension. I can't think of to many occasions when they have lost out on a player leaving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2015 They'll either get rid now or get him to sign an extension. I can't think of to many occasions when they have lost out on a player leaving. They can't make a club bid for him and they can't force him to sign a new contract. *cough* Paul Pogba *cough* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deacs Posted July 18, 2015 Report Share Posted July 18, 2015 Can't argue with Pogba, they massively misjudged his potential. I just don't think they will let Jones go on a free. Of course our very own TC is going to be a world beater, know you agree with me there Romey Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milesey05 Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 Bookies have us 4/7 on to sign him now according to SS I said we'd bloody well sign him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 What a shit signing if true. I'd rather an unknown... Sign of where we're going if we get Evans. Mid to low half contenders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 I've said all along at the right price Zi'd be ok with this. He's got plenty of experience in the prem so would dlot straight in. He wont sit on our bench though so if he does come I think that's Stones gone. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 No problem with him, if we get him at a decent price anyway. He's minimal risk, which we need. We know he won't be another Kroldrup, more likely to be like Weir in my opinion. To come in as back up, but pushing for a starting place should form allow, I'll be happy. If he does play, he has more of a voice than Jags. pete0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 No problem with him, if we get him at a decent price anyway. He's minimal risk, which we need. We know he won't be another Kroldrup, more likely to be like Weir in my opinion. To come in as back up, but pushing for a starting place should form allow, I'll be happy. If he does play, he has more of a voice than Jags. This for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 Aww thanks buddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 Apart from his injuries. He's not minimal risk. Only if he stays fit, then you can argue that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 Well he is good mates with Gibbo. They'll have a great time with Bryan and Stevie P. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 That would be some voice! The red would listen to him. Wait, he's not a young up and coming centre back from a lower league team is he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rusty747 Posted August 14, 2015 Report Share Posted August 14, 2015 (edited) The more I think about this, the more I am ok with it at the right price. He adds experience and gives us 3 quality cbs with premier experience while we wait for Browning and Galloway (edit, plus Holgate now) to develop further. We must keep Stones. Edited August 14, 2015 by rusty747 StevO and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scouse Posted August 14, 2015 Report Share Posted August 14, 2015 think people are under estimating him, he would be pushing Jags hard id take him for the right price, tho 8 mill for a player out of contract next season seems high. StevO and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rusty747 Posted August 17, 2015 Report Share Posted August 17, 2015 I don't think he is injured and he is absent from Man U squad for their Champs league game. Conspiracy theorists, make of it what you will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vranny Posted August 18, 2015 Report Share Posted August 18, 2015 (edited) I don't think he is injured and he is absent from Man U squad for their Champs league game. Conspiracy theorists, make of it what you will. I think that's more due to LVG not rating him any more, not necessarily because he's been sold. Can't see him staying beyond this or the next transfer window though. Edited August 18, 2015 by Vranny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codders78 Posted August 18, 2015 Report Share Posted August 18, 2015 If I had a crystal ball and could see Stones and Jags staying fit all season then I wouldn't want him, he isnt going to improve us and will stand in the way of Galloway, Browning, Holgate getting game time. However if Stones or Jags got a bad one then we would need him but £8mill seems a bit strong for a player out of contract next year and evidently not in the plans of LVG. Would we be prepared to only have 2 established CB's once the window closes? If we could sort something similar to the Barry deal then it could work but would the player want to leave Man Utd to sit on our bench? Perhaps he should join the graveyard of old Utd CB's at Sunderland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rusty747 Posted August 18, 2015 Report Share Posted August 18, 2015 Could it be that RM is blooding Galloway into the first team at left back with a view to getting him the experience to be our first choice cover at cb? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scouse Posted August 18, 2015 Report Share Posted August 18, 2015 Could it be that RM is blooding Galloway into the first team at left back with a view to getting him the experience to be our first choice cover at cb? potentially yes but still think Evans would be a good deal if we got him to add experience and guide the youngsters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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