Paddock Posted August 28, 2014 Report Share Posted August 28, 2014 It also appears that no level of criticism can be aimed at other players like Mirallas despite having some similar tendancies to lose the ball in daft areas or make silly decisions (last ditch corner against Leicester into side netting). But I like Mirallas overall and thats my opinion of him. Some players get hung out to dry and others get unconditionally excused. No players above criticism. However, some make a mistake every now and then others are prone to them. They're all only human so to jump down a players throat who is usually solid is daft but some players frustrate by regularly making poor decisions or silly mistakes so they get singled out more. That's how I see it like but if a player fucks up it shouldn't matter who he is he has to be held accountable for it. I remember Distin being slaughtered in some quarters after that cock up in the semi against the shite the fact he'd was on the back of a season where he was virtually flawless and absolutely immense was lost in some of our fans. Disgraceful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted August 28, 2014 Report Share Posted August 28, 2014 If players continue to make the same stupid mistakes then thats when it becomes a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubecula Posted August 28, 2014 Report Share Posted August 28, 2014 I can't say I am overly enthusiastic about Welbeck. The MK Dons game sums him up for me. Lots of energy but very little end product. He may do well in a lower league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 28, 2014 Report Share Posted August 28, 2014 Sky saying he's in talks about a loan move to Spurs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted August 28, 2014 Report Share Posted August 28, 2014 Sky saying he's in talks about a loan move to Spurs. That would be bizarre! Although a good move for Welbeck because he would probably play a similar role to Rodrigues last season providing Pochettino sets his Spurs team up the same way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gethinO Posted August 29, 2014 Report Share Posted August 29, 2014 (edited) Few rumours saying we're close to a 1 year loan deal. No idea if it's true. Edited August 29, 2014 by Geth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted August 30, 2014 Report Share Posted August 30, 2014 don't you know, some people have the ability to judge a player after 1 game, some even quicker Mcgeady is shit mate. 10minute player. I've seen enough and Traore is still shit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted August 30, 2014 Report Share Posted August 30, 2014 (edited) Mcgeady is shit mate. 10minute player. I've seen enough and Traore is still shit! Hang on I'll tell Martinez, I'm sure once he knows that the great MiguelCoto has passed judgement on McGeady he will drop and sell him immediately. McGeady, like Naismith will take time to settle in, and has a role to play. In McGeadys case it is using his, pace, trickery and ball control to open up tight defenses. FFS hes only really had 1 pre-season with us, and people are slagging him off after 2 games. Edited August 30, 2014 by London Blue Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted August 30, 2014 Report Share Posted August 30, 2014 Don't compare Mcgeady and Naismith. Totally different. Mcgeagy has been playing in his preferred role all a long and he's been crap. He's overrated. Whilst I agree there is talent in there and I can see flashes. He is missing 90% of the time he's on the pitch. He's a liability. Like playing with 10 men. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest blueboy122 Posted August 30, 2014 Report Share Posted August 30, 2014 Going to put it out there.. I said when the season finished that I would rather we sign Welbeck than Lukaku as he fits into our system more, plays in between the lines etc and has a touch. Lukaku at £28M or Welbeck at £12M-£15M No brainier for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted August 30, 2014 Report Share Posted August 30, 2014 He's overrated. Whilst I agree there is talent in there and I can see flashes. Sorry. Are we talking about McGeady or Mirallas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted August 30, 2014 Report Share Posted August 30, 2014 (edited) Don't compare Mcgeady and Naismith. Totally different. Mcgeagy has been playing in his preferred role all a long and he's been crap. He's overrated. Whilst I agree there is talent in there and I can see flashes. He is missing 90% of the time he's on the pitch. He's a liability. Like playing with 10 men. What a whole 2 games this season. (scoring 1 cracker of a goal, and appearing as a sub for 20 mins in the second) Last season he was unfit as Martinez said, so that doesn't really count. Give the man a chance, hes a Blue, so lets give him our support, at least until hes started a dozen or more games. Edited August 30, 2014 by London Blue Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted August 30, 2014 Report Share Posted August 30, 2014 Of course it counts. He wasn't that unfit to do himself justice. On the whole last season he did ok. He made mistakes but he created chances and that is exactly what you get from him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted August 30, 2014 Report Share Posted August 30, 2014 Plus I wouldn't listen to Cotto too much as he changes his mind week in week out. McGeady was his MOTM against Leicester. Talk about hero to zero. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted August 30, 2014 Report Share Posted August 30, 2014 Plus I wouldn't listen to Cotto too much as he changes his mind week in week out. McGeady was his MOTM against Leicester. Talk about hero to zero. This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted August 30, 2014 Report Share Posted August 30, 2014 Of course it counts. He wasn't that unfit to do himself justice. On the whole last season he did ok. He made mistakes but he created chances and that is exactly what you get from him. Good point, I just meant he couldn't play whole games regularly or week in and week out as his fitness wasn't there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted August 30, 2014 Report Share Posted August 30, 2014 Going to put it out there.. I said when the season finished that I would rather we sign Welbeck than Lukaku as he fits into our system more, plays in between the lines etc and has a touch. Lukaku at £28M or Welbeck at £12M-£15M No brainier for me. Well put out there...but think the choice between them has gone now!!! I'll put it out there...give me them both in our squad. Lukaku (28mill), Barry (2mill), Besic (4mill), Eto'o (0), McGeady (0), Mccarthy (13mill) plus Welbeck (3mill...because it fits!!!) OR David Luiz...50 mill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted August 30, 2014 Report Share Posted August 30, 2014 Sorry, I'm scrapping my campaign for this one. Any coin left needs to go on a CB, a goodun to help cover. rubecula 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 (edited) SSN saying it would only cost £5m to buy Welbeck ! Edit - no, that's to loan him. Edited September 1, 2014 by Romey 1878 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 SSN saying it would only cost £5m to buy Welbeck ! Edit - no, that's to loan him. that seems a lot of money to loan him... they would probably sell him for twice that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest blueboy122 Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 Really want Welbeck here. Hopefully it comes off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 I would like him...but not at the expense of a centre back. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest blueboy122 Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 I would like him...but not at the expense of a centre back. I think many are having a knee jerk reaction because of what happened at the weekend but I think the problem will be solved by simply putting Stones in for Jags. Alcaraz and Jags are more than adequate back ups in my opinion. Distin and Stones is solid partnership for me. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 I think many are having a knee jerk reaction because of what happened at the weekend but I think the problem will be solved by simply putting Stones in for Jags. Alcaraz and Jags are more than adequate back ups in my opinion. Distin and Stones is solid partnership for me. I agree with you. But that's not me. I thought about it...Stones is capable. Alcaraz struggles to stay fit. So with the extra games in Europe, I don't think we have enough at CB. We need one more reliable solid player. Doesn't need to be a world beater, but reliable is a must. Matt and Kant 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest blueboy122 Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 I agree with you. But that's not me. I thought about it...Stones is capable. Alcaraz struggles to stay fit. So with the extra games in Europe, I don't think we have enough at CB. We need one more reliable solid player. Doesn't need to be a world beater, but reliable is a must. Fair enough. Am sure we will find someone affordable who fits that criteria. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 He's a big lad, he's quick, can he play at the back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 I agree with you. But that's not me. I thought about it...Stones is capable. Alcaraz struggles to stay fit. So with the extra games in Europe, I don't think we have enough at CB. We need one more reliable solid player. Doesn't need to be a world beater, but reliable is a must. Likewise, I don't agree with making knee-jerk decisions. We have Stones and Alcaraz and Garbutt. There is cover, but one more youngester would help. Certainly no need to splash out on a big defensive signing. I'd say that depth of squad in general is more important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 Likewise, I don't agree with making knee-jerk decisions. We have Stones and Alcaraz and Garbutt. There is cover, but one more youngester would help. Certainly no need to splash out on a big defensive signing. I'd say that depth of squad in general is more important. Garbutt is a LB. And Alcaraz can't be relied upon to stay fit even though he is a good defender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 Having a medical at Arsenal, apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 Ye just heard the same from my son. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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