EFC-Paul Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 It's obvious that Moyes favours having Neville in the starting eleven and I'm not sure how it can really be disputed!? Even the fact that He has played so much with being piss poor for the most part shows that, You can't blame Him for playing if picked but Moyes is/has really turned Neville into a player most people cringe at seeing on the team sheet by persistently sticking with Him when we have other and better options. He should not be anything other then emergency cover at RB. Sideliner 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 Come on guys... we're being a bit harsh on one of our finest posters here. I think he's made some excellent and insightful posts of late. I for one am changing my perspectives towards Everton because of his fresh views and clearly extensive knowledge! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 Come on guys... we're being a bit harsh on one of our finest posters here. I think he's made some excellent and insightful posts of late. I for one am changing my perspectives towards Everton because of his fresh views and clearly extensive knowledge! I was purely giving a factual answer to the "ignore" question myself....hope that didn't give any impression that I was taking sides . I keep well out of this thread if I can, I'm just here for tech support . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinalaff Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 While we're on the subject, any chance you lads can take me 'off' ignore? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 And you know this how?Based on the fact that it is exactly what Moyes has done every other time this situation (or very similar) has arisen in the last 8 or so years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideliner Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 You all know where I stand on this - no PL side can afford carrying any player no matter how good he used to be - Phill Neville is way past his sell by date and he and Mr Moyes must take joint blame for refusing to acknowledge that - to the detriment of Everton - but there are signs that it might be dawning on them that they can no longer pull the wool over the most fan's eyes - Phill said he is prepared to drop down the leaugues to enable him to keep on playing - he should rather retire gracefully and focus on managing before his judgement get tarnished Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinalaff Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 He'll probably get a year to year like Distin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 http://www.evertonfc.com/news/archive/2013/04/09/neville-to-leave-the-blues? Leaving in the summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 (edited) He's been an excellent servant for the club and deserves a warm send off. Edited April 9, 2013 by c1982 Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted April 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 http://www.evertonfc.com/news/archive/2013/04/09/neville-to-leave-the-blues? Leaving in the summer. No great surprise really he has dropped down the pecking order and he did say he would only stay if he felt he was making a difference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 He's been a great servant to the club and has been the best captain I've seen here (bear in mind that is since 93'). He always gives it his all, even if his skills and fitness have dipped considerably of late. I wish him nothing but the best for the future and think he will do well in the lower leagues if he goes down there. More realistically though I think he will concentrate on his coaching (which suits me as I want him back at Everton in some sort of training role). Thanks for everything Nev! Quinn31 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 Sad fact of life for footballers, it happens to the very best, and whilst Neville can't put himself in that category, he can look back on his footballing career and say he did it right. When you see talent like Van Der Meyde retire without a whimper after neglecting his ability and ripping off the fans you need to pay the right level of respect to Neville. No where near my favourite player (we all know this) - however I have a healthy respect for the lad, he will do well and deserves to do well in what he chooses next. Personally I hope he retires from football and gets into cricket - I feel he will find it tougher down the football leagues and I don't like seeing good ex pros being given the run around by yard dogs. Jags for club captain next me thinks. Quinn31 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thoward18 Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 Very clearly not a role for him on this club anymore, so it's the right time for this. Seems like a really great guy and I wish him well. Where could he be off to? He could MAYBE be a rotation option for a team on the low end of the spectrum like Wigan or something. Would he really play in Championship? Has a more reputable player ever done so (not counting crap like Edgar Davids coming out of retirement)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 Thank you phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 Very clearly not a role for him on this club anymore, so it's the right time for this. Seems like a really great guy and I wish him well. Where could he be off to? He could MAYBE be a rotation option for a team on the low end of the spectrum like Wigan or something. Would he really play in Championship? Has a more reputable player ever done so (not counting crap like Edgar Davids coming out of retirement)? Teddy Sheringham went to the lower leagues with Colchester for a season. It's not that bizarre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue4Ever Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 (edited) When everybody is fit Neville hasnt been a starter for the last 2 seasons you have lost it mate finally after about 4 seasons of me moaning every week about him starting ive finally got what i wanted and thats him no where near the playing squad he said the right things to people and the media and was a good person in the dressing room like they all say but big occasions he poo's himself and then in the poor games could never make a 10 yard pass against the likes of norwich, im only 21 but he is the worst technical player we have had since i started watching, how he played for england is beyond joke, anyway feel bad now after all the insults but he wasnt good enough at the end of the day imo fair play to helping as much as he possibly could around the club but he wont be missed by me. best of luck. Edited April 9, 2013 by Blue4Ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted April 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 you have lost it mate finally after about 4 seasons of me moaning every week about him starting ive finally got what i wanted and thats him no where near the playing squad he said the right things to people and the media and was a good person in the dressing room like they all say but big occasions he poo's himself and then in the poor games could never make a 10 yard pass against the likes of norwich, im only 21 but he is the worst technical player we have had since i started watching, how he played for england is beyond joke, anyway feel bad now after all the insults but he wasnt good enough at the end of the day imo fair play to helping as much as he possibly could around the club but he wont be missed by me. best of luck. How have I lost it? Coleman and Hibbert are ahead of him in the pecking order at RB and Osman / Gibson are the first choice at CM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 Much respect for Phil and best of luck to him in his future endeavors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 Abaolutely fantastic captain, player and person. I hope he focuses on his coaching now. Maximum thanks for what hes done for Everton in the past 8 season. You will be missed Nevs - but it was definetly time to go. As for the next captain I really dont want it to be Jags, but there is nobody else to pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 He's been an excellent servant for the club and deserves a warm send off. agreed. Just a shame his honours list doesnt include anything with us! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonButtle Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 How have I lost it? Coleman and Hibbert are ahead of him in the pecking order at RB and Osman / Gibson are the first choice at CM Think it all depends on the opposition tbh, he certainly hasn't been a bench player for the last 2 seasons, and Coleman has only just got the RB position this season remember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 As for the next captain I really dont want it to be Jags, but there is nobody else to pick. Why? He's been with us for 6 years and he's contracted till 2017. We need a stable captain (i.e. - someone who will be here for the future) and I can see Phil being just that. I think he's good enough for Everton but just not good enough for the Top 4 which makes me believe he will honor his contract. I'd have his as captain in a heartbeat. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thoward18 Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 What's wrong with Baines or Osman as choices? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 (edited) What's wrong with Baines or Osman as choices? Baines doesn't seem to talk very much and hopefully Osman won't be a regular starter soon. Edited April 9, 2013 by Romey 1878 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 What's wrong with Baines or Osman as choices? Whats wrong with Jagielka? I would actually class those two as candidates too though. I'd be inclined to give it to Baines to try and stop him from moving to clubs like Manchester United and Chelsea but I don't know whether he has it in him to be a skipper. He's a brilliant footballer and there is no question about that but I'm unsure if he's a born leader. Osman is a good choice but with age he might go to same way as Phil and end up being shite, Phil seems the safest option to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 Baines doesn't seem to talk very much and hopefully Osman won't be a regular starter soon. Maybe Ossie as club captain and Jags as first team captain....sure we've had separate people doing the two roles in the past. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 Maybe Ossie as club captain and Jags as first team captain....sure we've had separate people doing the two roles in the past. Seems a likely scenario. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 Maybe Ossie as club captain and Jags as first team captain....sure we've had separate people doing the two roles in the past. What's the difference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 What's the difference One on the pitch and one off it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thoward18 Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 Whats wrong with Jagielka? I would actually class those two as candidates too though. I'd be inclined to give it to Baines to try and stop him from moving to clubs like Manchester United and Chelsea but I don't know whether he has it in him to be a skipper. He's a brilliant footballer and there is no question about that but I'm unsure if he's a born leader. Osman is a good choice but with age he might go to same way as Phil and end up being shite, Phil seems the safest option to me. Nothing, I like Jags and he'd be a fine pick. But someone else said there was nobody else. Baines maybe isn't very vocal but he's a veteran who has been with the team for a long time and certainly takes on a leadership role on the field. Osman is Osman, though he's getting up there in age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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