Shukes Posted March 19, 2016 Report Share Posted March 19, 2016 You forget that Howard did major mistakes every game. But I don't think it's ever been a possibility that Robles would be #1 next season. I know that's true. But at least he saved some shots. With Robles it's pretty much a goal if it's in target. Heard were selling Tim too.if so we're well and truly in the shit. We need to he looking fir a new keeper now...neither are good enough for where we want to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted March 19, 2016 Report Share Posted March 19, 2016 It is true that we have yet to see an all out shot stopping performance from Robles. He seems to be getting worse with game time...that wasn't the idea!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted March 20, 2016 Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 I know that's true. But at least he saved some shots. With Robles it's pretty much a goal if it's in target. Heard were selling Tim too.if so we're well and truly in the shit. We need to he looking fir a new keeper now...neither are good enough for where we want to be. Howard had the worst shot to saves ratio in the Pemiership last season and has been even worse this season. The truth of the matter is neither of them are up to the job Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rusty747 Posted March 20, 2016 Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 (edited) Howard had the worst shot to saves ratio in the Pemiership last season and has been even worse this season. The truth of the matter is neither of them are up to the jobUnfortunately, you are quite right. New manager, 2 new 'keepers, left winger, number 10, and we might see some improvement. Edited March 20, 2016 by rusty747 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted March 20, 2016 Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 I don't think Robles was at fault for either goal. If our players made a tackle both goals could have been avoided much earlier in the play. On both occasions Besic pulled out of chances to stop Arsenal and didn't. Aside from that, two very good finishes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted March 20, 2016 Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 I don't think Robles was at fault for either goal. If our players made a tackle both goals could have been avoided much earlier in the play. On both occasions Besic pulled out of chances to stop Arsenal and didn't. Aside from that, two very good finishes. But what about the disallowed Giroud "goal"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted March 20, 2016 Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 I don't think Robles was at fault for either goal. If our players made a tackle both goals could have been avoided much earlier in the play. On both occasions Besic pulled out of chances to stop Arsenal and didn't. Aside from that, two very good finishes. Can't agree mate. To me it looks like the same as a few weeks ago...comes running out and then stops and makes it so easy for Welbeck. Second goal he made as big a bridge as possible. I'm really worried for our situation next season. RM better have a target that is realistic or letting Tim go could he a disaster. I just don't see who's available? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted March 20, 2016 Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 Can't agree mate. To me it looks like the same as a few weeks ago...comes running out and then stops and makes it so easy for Welbeck. Second goal he made as big a bridge as possible. I'm really worried for our situation next season. RM better have a target that is realistic or letting Tim go could he a disaster. I just don't see who's available? Letting Tim go won't be a disaster when he's no better! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted March 20, 2016 Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 Letting Tim go won't be a disaster when he's no better! Will if we don't have a replacement lined up. One injury and we have kids in goal. Obviously we have from now until summer to scout, but knowing our track record for leaving it till the last minute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted March 20, 2016 Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 Ok Shukes. For the first goal, he stays on his line, Welbeck puts it past him. Or he comes all the way, Welbeck runs into him, penalty and he gets sent off. For the second goal, yes his legs are far apart, keep your legs together in that situation and see how much balance you have and the forward plays the ball past you anyway. Both situations were one on one, if a forward is in a one on one it's because the defence haven't done well enough. And any one on one the forward should score. Mike, I couldn't see Girouds goal that well, I sit at the other end, too scared to watch any of it back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 It's opinion I suppose SteveO. I would much rather see the keeper play percentages and make an effort. If he gives away a penalty then it's another chance to save the shot. But there is also a chance he gets his fingers to the ball. Same as closing the bridge...make the forward work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 This is the first real run he has had for years, and even that is 30% per competition roughly. In the Cups he's done well and in his recent dips, it's coincided with 3 at the back. The lad could still be a quality 'keeper, I refuse to right him off. I think with Howard off, he'll forget the bad things and keep the good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 He's a number 2 keeper really. That's fine. Lets sign Joe Hart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalkpie Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 What's bizarre is that some folks are STILL willing to give Martinez until the end of the season when he has arguably been moose diarrhea as a manager, yet Joel plays a few matches, makes a few errors, and yet we need to get rid of him immediately, etc etc. How about lets give him until the end of the season also? Fair is fair. Fish is fish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalkpie Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 He's a number 2 keeper really. That's fine. Lets sign Joe Hart. Why is Joey available? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 Why is Joey available? quite possibly with a new manager coming in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalkpie Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 quite possibly with a new manager coming in. That could be a game changer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlblue Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 Iv said this all along regarding Robles, hes a good backup keeper but that's it IMO. I think people were so desperate to see Howard replaced they wanted Robles as no1 especially after a few good cup appearances. Not good enough as our no1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 Iv said this all along regarding Robles, hes a good backup keeper but that's it IMO. I think people were so desperate to see Howard replaced they wanted Robles as no1 especially after a few good cup appearances. Not good enough as our no1. A "good back-up keeper" is not good enough if we want to move forward, second keeper might be called on for most of a season due to injury so we need two top quality ones. We (arguably/probably) lost silverware in the past due to only having Bobby Mimms as back-up to Nev, if we're going to get among the big boys we need quality replacements/choices for every position. Joel, as I've said before, isn't up to it for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraccerC Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 He's a bottom half of the prem no.1, but shouldn't be for us. Definitely a better option than Howard though, so I'm happy for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 A "good back-up keeper" is not good enough if we want to move forward, second keeper might be called on for most of a season due to injury so we need two top quality ones. We (arguably/probably) lost silverware in the past due to only having Bobby Mimms as back-up to Nev, if we're going to get among the big boys we need quality replacements/choices for every position. Joel, as I've said before, isn't up to it for me. so mike do you think we need 2 new keepers or just one and keep robles on the bench? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 so mike do you think we need 2 new keepers or just one and keep robles on the bench? The first one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted April 27, 2016 Report Share Posted April 27, 2016 (edited) http://www.evertonfc.com/news/2016/04/26/joel-wants-to-be-long-term-number-one http://www.squawka.com/players/joel-robles/stats#performance-score#everton-(current)#english-barclays-premier-league#8#season-2015/2016#165#all-matches#1-34#by-match Edited April 27, 2016 by Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted April 27, 2016 Report Share Posted April 27, 2016 I looked at the sqawka stats recently. A lot closer than we thought. Surprised that aboard claim success is better. Thought that was his real downfall. But then Robles has a better save ratio which surprised me. Never mind, glad to be wrong on that one...he's all we have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraccerC Posted April 27, 2016 Report Share Posted April 27, 2016 I think we should keep Joel. Buy a new number 1, but use Joel as we did before - cup keeper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted April 27, 2016 Report Share Posted April 27, 2016 I think we should keep Joel. Buy a new number 1, but use Joel as we did before - cup keeper. I've come round to that, was in the "two new keepers required" camp but I think he's done enough to be kept on; but not enough to be first choice. Lowensda 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted April 27, 2016 Report Share Posted April 27, 2016 Robles has came out and backed Martinez...saying he is perfect for the club and very important. Just great! That's all we need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rusty747 Posted April 27, 2016 Report Share Posted April 27, 2016 We certainly need a new number one. I think we will need to strengthen the rest of the team and look capable of a Euro league campaign before we will be in a position to attract another solid 'keeper who knows he will be second choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnh Posted April 27, 2016 Report Share Posted April 27, 2016 I think he has done OK but my concern is that, for a big lad, he doesn't command the six yard box. Everything in or around the six yard box should be his and he should be clattering anyone, opposition or his own team, who get in his way. Unfortunately, he doesn't do this. I think this is his main weakness, he's a good shot stopper, spreads himself well but needs to be more aggressive when coming for crosses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted April 27, 2016 Report Share Posted April 27, 2016 i think with a better defensive strategy and partnership and defending Joel will also improve because he doesn't have to stop shots and be the back 4 all by himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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