markjazzbassist Posted March 1, 2016 Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 Solid again tonight. How annoying is it to imagine how well we could have done with him in net from the beginning of this season? Where would we be now (in the table)? with him and mirallas playing regularly we could be top 5. no joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted March 1, 2016 Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 (edited) I need to see more games with him in goal to make a judgement. Better than Howard tho. Edited March 1, 2016 by London Blue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted March 1, 2016 Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 I need to see more games with him in goal to make a judgement. Better than Howard tho. I agree, he's still along way from convincing me he's the long term solution as first choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted March 1, 2016 Report Share Posted March 1, 2016 I think the upturn has also coincided with the absence of Stones Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 Solid again tonight. How annoying is it to imagine how well we could have done with him in net from the beginning of this season? Where would we be now (in the table)?Title challenge!? Think we would have been top 4 or there abouts last year with the switch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalkpie Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 We are so much more confident in the back right now its ridiculous. Martinez can go eat a dried shriveled-up hot dog for not putting Joel in sooner. Its not just him and his commanding the area that's better, but its the confidence he exudes on the four lads in front of him. Later Howard - enjoy the Rocky Mountains. Actually I went to grad school in Colorado and its a very beautiful state - but LOTS of fuckin' rednecks who like them some guns, cowboy boots, and big hats. No joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 Also unsure here. Flapped at a cross yet again yesterday and his distribution was erratic. Makes me uneasy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 Also unsure here. Flapped at a cross yet again yesterday and his distribution was erratic. Makes me uneasy. It was his worst game since becoming our number one, but again, he's still learning his role as a first-teamer. After the patience shown with Howard, who is an experienced keeper, it's incredible how quickly people jump on Joel. Matt and Lowensda 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 It was his worst game since becoming our number one, but again, he's still learning his role as a first-teamer. After the patience shown with Howard, who is an experienced keeper, it's incredible how quickly people jump on Joel. Ye I think I'm so unsure of any keeper for the last few years it just makes me jittery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 If Joel played all season, McCarthy didn't get injured and Jags didn't get injured, we could be challenging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 If Joel played all season, McCarthy didn't get injured and Jags didn't get injured, we could be challenging. In fairness, Martinez had influence in the decisions to actually play Joel. He can't predict the injury list, but that (Joel for Tim) alone, could have gained us a few places. I genuinely believe that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalkpie Posted March 3, 2016 Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 In fairness, Martinez had influence in the decisions to actually play Joel. He can't predict the injury list, but that (Joel for Tim) alone, could have gained us a few places. I genuinely believe that. Absolutely a few places - you can include last season as well. Joel is learning and not an "ace" yet, but his overall presence is far and above Flappy Howard at this point. Kant, Lowensda and markjazzbassist 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted March 3, 2016 Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 My fear with him is that his size could slow his reactions and getting to the corners. But his save on Westwood was top class. Keeps on improving and the team along with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 Not the answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 Clean sheet, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 Clean sheet, exactly. he defended well and had a couple wild plays but clean sheet and he's still so young, he will grow and learn. still haven't conceded a goal in the cup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 exactly. he defended well and had a couple wild plays but clean sheet and he's still so young, he will grow and learn. still haven't conceded a goal in the cup. Doesn't inspire confidence in me though, not a number one if we're aiming where we should be. Even Graeme Sharp on Football Focus earlier when asked about our Summer priorities said goalkeeper first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 Think the clean sheet was more about the players in front of him today. They had 1 shot on target. Looked a bit flappy today. And has done a few times. I want to see him in a game where he has to save shot after shot, claim every cross cleanly etc. Then you'll know if he's 'the one'. I'm not sure he is but he will do for now. MikeO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 He is definitely the best goalkeeper we have on our books at present. Thought his positioning was wrong when Costa nearly scored but he is a unit and is not afraid to come off his line. A new keeper is a must though in the summer. Dream world butland but would have begovic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smeghead1 Posted March 13, 2016 Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 Thought he did well today Costa would've had a penalty today if Howard had been playing, at least Robles got him into a position where scoring wasn't that simple. Kept De Gea out of the Spain U21 team and he's only 25 (isn't he?) so loads of time to improve but to improve he has to play. nutmegwolf203 and markjazzbassist 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted March 13, 2016 Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 Thought he did well today Costa would've had a penalty today if Howard had been playing, at least Robles got him into a position where scoring wasn't that simple. Kept De Gea out of the Spain U21 team and he's only 25 (isn't he?) so loads of time to improve but to improve he has to play. spot on. i thought he played that very well and made it impossible for costa to make the shot. also when he went into a slide on the other close run by a chelsea player and pulled out at the last second it was another well timed play. didn't give a pen and it was a goal kick and prevented a shot. Kant and nutmegwolf203 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kant Posted March 13, 2016 Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 Thought he did well today Costa would've had a penalty today if Howard had been playing, at least Robles got him into a position where scoring wasn't that simple. Kept De Gea out of the Spain U21 team and he's only 25 (isn't he?) so loads of time to improve but to improve he has to play. He was supposed to be very good when he was young but never got the chance to play regularly early in his career. He's got the frame and the looks of a decent keeper that can become very good, but he needs to be more commanding. Let's see if there is something in there of that alleged potential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted March 13, 2016 Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 And he's still not played a full season to my knowledge. The lad will only get better and, as soon as Howard isn't there flapping in training, he'll hopefully forget that trait. It's his only real issue at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted March 19, 2016 Report Share Posted March 19, 2016 Can we put this one to bed now? I honestly would rather have Howard. Shots to conceded goals ratio Howard is the better keeper. Howard has 12 shots on target, conceded two or three. Robles, it's pretty much 50% conceded. Not sure of actual stats but come on, anyone can see that one we get shots on target, we concede. Get Howard back in, or try someone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted March 19, 2016 Report Share Posted March 19, 2016 Can we put this one to bed now? I honestly would rather have Howard. Shots to conceded goals ratio Howard is the better keeper. Howard has 12 shots on target, conceded two or three. Robles, it's pretty much 50% conceded. Not sure of actual stats but come on, anyone can see that one we get shots on target, we concede. Get Howard back in, or try someone else. I agree, said the same in the match-day thread earlier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted March 19, 2016 Report Share Posted March 19, 2016 We gave Howard many many stinkers, Joel is young I'm willing to give him the rest of the season to see what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted March 19, 2016 Report Share Posted March 19, 2016 Thought he was poor today, a new keeper has got to be a priority in the summer MikeO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted March 19, 2016 Report Share Posted March 19, 2016 Thought he was poor today, a new keeper has got to be a priority in the summer Two new 'keepers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted March 19, 2016 Report Share Posted March 19, 2016 Two new 'keepers. Sad to say but it looks this way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makis Posted March 19, 2016 Report Share Posted March 19, 2016 Can we put this one to bed now? I honestly would rather have Howard. Shots to conceded goals ratio Howard is the better keeper. Howard has 12 shots on target, conceded two or three. Robles, it's pretty much 50% conceded. Not sure of actual stats but come on, anyone can see that one we get shots on target, we concede. Get Howard back in, or try someone else. You forget that Howard did major mistakes every game. But I don't think it's ever been a possibility that Robles would be #1 next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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