Newty82 Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 Anybody have twitter and follow this bloke? MC11 do you? Any sign of an apology? Or anything? Still unhappy about it. But need to give the bloke a day or 2 to say something. And then give us a load of full throttle performances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 Anybody have twitter and follow this bloke? MC11 do you? Any sign of an apology? Or anything? Still unhappy about it. But need to give the bloke a day or 2 to say something. And then give us a load of full throttle performances. I think he's on Instagram and not Twitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted January 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 http://www.footballfancast.com/premier-league/everton/controversy-aside-everton-must-keep-hold-of-this-belgian-star Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 If it meant keeping Mirallas I'd rather Martinez went. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 (edited) If it meant keeping Mirallas I'd rather Martinez went.Ha ha ha!!!!!! If ever a comment summed you up its this. You'd want mirallas to be appointed player manager. Yeah let's ignore the arrogant prick who never thought of the team. Let's pretend he is carrying out some noble fight to rid us of a nasty manager who is trying to destroy the team. Edited January 20, 2015 by Hafnia Chach 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalkpie Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 If it meant keeping Mirallas I'd rather Martinez went. I don't always agree with you, but when I do, its usually on a statement such as this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 Ha ha ha!!!!!! If ever a comment summed you up its this. You'd want mirallas to be appointed player manager. Yeah let's ignore the arrogant prick who never thought of the team. Let's pretend he is carrying out some noble fight to rid us of a nasty manager who is trying to destroy the team. Yeh pretty much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 Just putting this out there in case anyone has a better memory than me, and not saying it's true (can find nothing on the net and the highlights have disappeared from Everton TV) but there's a whisper that Kev has previous on this. New Years Day 2014 at Stoke when we got an injury time pen (at 1-0 down) and Jelavic took the ball off Kev and gave it to Baines. Could be an exaggeration, maybe MIrallas was going to give Leighton the ball anyway, but seems another possible stick has been found to beat him with. I repeat (because I'm a bit pissed by people making assumptions on my opinions when I've not given them) that I have zero idea of how true/invented this is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 (edited) Just putting this out there in case anyone has a better memory than me, and not saying it's true (can find nothing on the net and the highlights have disappeared from Everton TV) but there's a whisper that Kev has previous on this. New Years Day 2014 at Stoke when we got an injury time pen (at 1-0 down) and Jelavic took the ball off Kev and gave it to Baines. Could be an exaggeration, maybe MIrallas was going to give Leighton the ball anyway, but seems another possible stick has been found to beat him with. I repeat (because I'm a bit pissed by people making assumptions on my opinions when I've not given them) that I have zero idea of how true/invented this is. It's true there is a video on youtube just before Baines takes the kick and Jelavic and Naismith are round Kev, looks like they are trying to explain something to him! Probably why they took the ball of him. Mirallas has been nudging Baines away from all the dead balls recently anyway. He's always stepping up, maybe he thinks he has the right to them now. Seens as though he's buried a good few. Think this cements last night was not him looking to throw himself in the shop window. Edited January 20, 2015 by MC11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 It's true there is a video on youtube just before Baines takes the kick and Jelavic and Naismith are round Kev, looks like they are trying to explain something to him! Probably why they took the ball of him. Mirallas has been nudging Baines away from all the dead balls recently anyway. He's always stepping up, maybe he thinks he has the right to them now. Seens as though he's buried a good few. Think this cements last night was not him looking to throw himself in the shop window. Couldn't find one, can you post a link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alguna Vez Tonelada Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 On a positive note at least we improved somewhat second half when Mirallas failed to appear.!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FwPbtfx5bj8 Look at Jelavic, Naismith and Kev in the too right of the screen. The cart who filmed it turned his phone away but you can see what looks like Jelavic and Kev arguin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 It's true there is a video on youtube just before Baines takes the kick and Jelavic and Naismith are round Kev, looks like they are trying to explain something to him! Probably why they took the ball of him. Mirallas has been nudging Baines away from all the dead balls recently anyway. He's always stepping up, maybe he thinks he has the right to them now. Seens as though he's buried a good few. Think this cements last night was not him looking to throw himself in the shop window. He's entitled to take free-kicks and corners away from him because they're mostly dire, but it doesn't explain why he felt the need to take a penalty kick away from Baines when he's so good at them. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 On a positive note at least we improved somewhat second half when Mirallas failed to appear.!!!!!!!!!! Sure you wernt dreaming mate? Chach 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 He's entitled to take free-kicks and corners away from him because they're mostly dire, but it doesn't explain why he felt the need to take a penalty kick away from Baines when he's so good at them. The lad is a winner and it's good to have that in you. If he'd have scored little would have been said. If Baines had missed there would be people defending him against anyone saying the result was his fault. It's because it's Mirallas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alguna Vez Tonelada Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 If you don´t think there was any improvement 2nd half you are the one in dreamland sonny jim Chach 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 If you don´t think there was any improvement 2nd half you are the one in dreamland sonny jim We were shit. Both halfs. Chach 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 The lad is a winner and it's good to have that in you. If he'd have scored little would have been said. If Baines had missed there would be people defending him against anyone saying the result was his fault. It's because it's Mirallas.But he didn't score, so the criticism is just. Chach 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 The lad is a winner and it's good to have that in you. If he'd have scored little would have been said. If Baines had missed there would be people defending him against anyone saying the result was his fault. It's because it's Mirallas. If he'd have scored Id have been relieved he didn't fuck it up but still annoyed at him being a tit. If Baines had missed then no one would need to defend him because he wouldn't be getting the blame for taking the penalty away from the player who usually takes it only to miss that penalty. There's a big difference. Toffee_in_LA, Chach and Matt 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 The lad is a winner and it's good to have that in you. If he'd have scored little would have been said. If Baines had missed there would be people defending him against anyone saying the result was his fault. It's because it's Mirallas. That's just insane. Nobody has an agenda against him (before last night possibly); everybody knows he's a great player, nobody's been picking on him. Lukaku, McGeady, Coleman, Barkley you may have a case but that's ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FwPbtfx5bj8 Look at Jelavic, Naismith and Kev in the too right of the screen. The cart who filmed it turned his phone away but you can see what looks like Jelavic and Kev arguin. Not really enough there to prove one way or the other I don't think; I'd already looked at that one, need to see the penalty offence itself and immediate reactions to judge properly so jury is out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elston Gunnn Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 Mirallas has been nudging Baines away from all the dead balls recently anyway. He's always stepping up, maybe he thinks he has the right to them now. Seens as though he's buried a good few. I'm guessing this is a significant factor in what happened. Mirallas has recently begun sharing free kick chances with Baines, especially where the distance dictates a shot on goal rather than a pass into the box, and where the angle dictates a right footer. As MC11 says, he's buried a few. Those goals are impressive displays of real talent. Mirallas surely does have a big ego, bigger than Baines's. His determined stomp across the pitch to secure the ball suggests a man temporarily possessed, almost angry, obsessed with dragging his underperforming team to a goal. He went just a little nuts, aiming to do good. In the event, the short run-up and lousy shot was a deflating disaster. As he was walking up to the spot, he had no thought of failure; couldn't imagine it. I don't know whether he's mature enough to imagine how to make amends for his petulance, how to apologize to his teammates, how to explain without justifying, how to help himself and the team, the fans, recover from a setback that constitutes such a major error that he and the club are the object of sneering criticism. This feels like a very delicate moment. A lot depends on the maturity of Kevin Mirallas. Not what I'd prefer, but it looks like where we are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/time-kevin-mirallas-prove-true-8483306 Chach 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/time-kevin-mirallas-prove-true-8483306 Like this bit: "But with no certainty could anyone say Mirallas has consistently been Everton’s stand-out player in that time." I know someone who can. Chach and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 "For every free-kick against Aston Villa or stunner against Spurs, there have been the games when he has been anonymous. Mirallas was firmly in the spotlight on Monday, alright, but for the wrong reasons. Injuries have limited his impact in each of his three seasons at the club and with a clear run of games, he can produce magical moments. Mirallas has Champions League ambitions but now is the time to show he is of that standard on a consistent basis. Oh, and also leave future spot-kicks to Baines." Perfectly summed up. Chach 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 Interesting point in the article, if it was because he wanted to dedicate a goal to his recently deceased friend Junior Malanda, would it make a difference to people's reactions had it have been said? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted January 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 Interesting point in the article, if it was because he wanted to dedicate a goal to his recently deceased friend Junior Malanda, would it make a difference ? Yes it would to me, it would still have been a petulant and foolish act but the mitigating circumstances would be perfectly understandable Matt and Toffee_in_LA 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 Interesting point in the article, if it was because he wanted to dedicate a goal to his recently deceased friend Junior Malanda, would it make a difference to people's reactions had it have been said? I don't mean to sound insensitive but it still points to the fact that he wanted the focus to be on him and his message. If anything that added pressure on him wanting to score 2-0 up then yeah ok maybe. The fact that players may be going out with a t shirt message for a goal celebration can lead to them making selfish deciosions - not passing to a better placed team mate, nicking the ball off them etc etc. The reality is that surely if Rom and Mirallas were going to do the t shirt it will have been at west ham. They pointed to the sky and that was a nice tribute. Toffee_in_LA and Chach 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 Interesting point in the article, if it was because he wanted to dedicate a goal to his recently deceased friend Junior Malanda, would it make a difference to people's reactions had it have been said? Yeah, but he had that chance at Wham in the replay, didn't he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted January 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 Yeah, but he had that chance at Wham in the replay, didn't he? That concert was years ago Matt, Peter H and Toffee_in_LA 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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