chalkpie Posted February 7, 2016 Report Share Posted February 7, 2016 20 goals baby. Tons slated him I've always stood by the lad. One of the best we've had in decades. What a player. I hope he hits 20 in the league. And that fuckin' header that Butland swiped and then hit the top crossbar.......FUCK!!!!!! Coulda' been 21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted February 7, 2016 Report Share Posted February 7, 2016 Well done to the lad. Goals aside, his overall game has improved beyond recognition. If we can just find that switch that takes him off "sleep mode" that he goes into when not expecting it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 7, 2016 Report Share Posted February 7, 2016 Well done to the lad. Goals aside, his overall game has improved beyond recognition. If we can just find that switch that takes him off "sleep mode" that he goes into when not expecting it.i don't expect we'll see it much, I'm convinced he was just knackered after all the games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted February 7, 2016 Report Share Posted February 7, 2016 i don't expect we'll see it much, I'm convinced he was just knackered after all the games. I'm hoping the shouts about his lack of desire and commitment die down a bit now. The lad played until half-time against Newcastle more or less crippled, and could barely walk once he went off. Then he's back for the next league game even though there's no way he'd have been fully fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted February 7, 2016 Report Share Posted February 7, 2016 (edited) He seemed totally up for it yesterday. Totally betrayed the shouts of some players not fancying it on a cold blustery day away from home against a tough crowd. I just don't know what it is that can get his "beast mode"... well it is Superbowl Sunday and whilst Marshaw lynch isn't in it it's an appropriate description of an athlete being able to tap into their "adrenaline". I hate the reference "beast"... but yes we need to find a way of tapping into it. I still say now his best performance was the derby game. That's his aim, to be that player. Edited February 7, 2016 by Hafnia nyblue23 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyblue23 Posted February 7, 2016 Report Share Posted February 7, 2016 ST- Embolo - £12m ST - Batshuay - £12m LW/SS - Calhanoglu - £18m CM - Goretzka - 10m CB - Sule - £8m RB - Ivan Lopez - £2m GK - Leno - £10m / GK - Dragowski - £3m Embolo's not going for anywhere nearly as low as 12 if we just bought Niasse for 13.5. Embolo's much younger and far more talented. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makis Posted February 7, 2016 Report Share Posted February 7, 2016 Embolo's club has already turned down an offer of more than 20 million so it will be closer to 30. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 if we get 65 mil for him id say sell. But only after lining up replacement. I say the same about 50 mil for Stones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 if we get 65 mil for him id say sell. But only after lining up replacement. I say the same about 50 mil for Stones. Both sums of money would be an amazing amount to reinvest in the right players. "right" being the operative word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 I'd like one more year to see if we can get Europe and a trophy. After that either bigger contract or sell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makis Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 People just forget one thing: you are looking at spending that on a number of players which would increase the wages a lot. If you spend 20 million on a player he expects to get 4-5 million per year, so five of those would mean closer to 20 million per year. And of course picking the right ones is tricky. Liverpool spend lots every year and to what end? Spurs spent and spent and spent and this is the first year they look like they have spent well. The Bale money was mostly wasted. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 I'd like one more year to see if we can get Europe and a trophy. After that either bigger contract or sell. It would be nice to keep the all for one more season! The 4 stars that is (Dela,Lukaku,Barkley,Stones) Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 It would be nice to keep the all for one more season! The 4 stars that is (Dela,Lukaku,Barkley,Stones) yes agreed although if one has to go stones is fine, i think Mori is doing a great job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 (edited) Problem is if Stones is not brought back in to play, his price will drop with every game he misses. If he can't get into our team how is he going to get into a top four club Edited February 8, 2016 by Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnh Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 Problem is if Stones is not brought back in to play, his price will drop with every game he misses. If he can't get into our team how is he going to get into a top four club The other problem is, if we play him and he plays crap and gives goals away his price will also drop. I think Chelsea have made their mind up about him and will pay what we ask whether we play him or not. Romey 1878, Matt and markjazzbassist 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rusty747 Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 To be perfectly blunt, Stones doesn't deserve to play for us at the moment. He may look good (most of the time) on the ball but the fact is that Jags and Mori have formed a highly effective partnership and Stones is not going to walk straight back into the starting eleven 'when fit!' Same with Deulofeu. He contributes less to the team than Lennon at the moment. Irrespective of injuries our best starting eleven is something like: Robles Coleman Jags Mori Baines/Oviedo Barry. Besic/McCarthy Lennon Barkley. Mirallas/Cleverley Lukaku Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnh Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 To be perfectly blunt, Stones doesn't deserve to play for us at the moment. He may look good (most of the time) on the ball but the fact is that Jags and Mori have formed a highly effective partnership and Stones is not going to walk straight back into the starting eleven 'when fit!' Same with Deulofeu. He contributes less to the team than Lennon at the moment. Irrespective of injuries our best starting eleven is something like: Robles Coleman Jags Mori Baines/Oviedo Barry. Besic/McCarthy Lennon Barkley. Mirallas/Cleverley Lukaku Agree. Was going to post the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 9, 2016 Report Share Posted February 9, 2016 People just forget one thing: you are looking at spending that on a number of players which would increase the wages a lot. If you spend 20 million on a player he expects to get 4-5 million per year, so five of those would mean closer to 20 million per year. And of course picking the right ones is tricky. Liverpool spend lots every year and to what end? Spurs spent and spent and spent and this is the first year they look like they have spent well. The Bale money was mostly wasted. But if we don't spend we'll get left behind!!! The other problem is, if we play him and he plays crap and gives goals away his price will also drop. I think Chelsea have made their mind up about him and will pay what we ask whether we play him or not. Man City supposedly hot for him too with Pep taking over. I'd still keep him though, he will learn from this recent break and come back better than ever. Alternatively we've got 3-4 massively rich clubs interested in him and can get them to compete Win win for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Romey 1878 Posted February 9, 2016 Popular Post Report Share Posted February 9, 2016 After Lukaku dominating unrelated threads it's funny that John Stones has taken over one of Lukaku's dedicated threads . Gwlad, Peter H, Btay and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted February 9, 2016 Report Share Posted February 9, 2016 If we did sell I'd take bony at a discount. Still only 27 and won't be on Pep's plans. Could be a smart piece of business. He could be the focal point of the attack like Rom is and he was at Swansea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 9, 2016 Report Share Posted February 9, 2016 If we did sell I'd take bony at a discount. Still only 27 and won't be on Pep's plans. Could be a smart piece of business. He could be the focal point of the attack like Rom is and he was at Swansea.if that's the case, I'd like to see Bony and 40m for Stones please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted February 9, 2016 Report Share Posted February 9, 2016 I've never been sold on Bony tbh. Flatters to deceive for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted February 9, 2016 Report Share Posted February 9, 2016 I've never been sold on Bony tbh. Flatters to deceive for me. Given a run of games a very good player. He can't do the Dzecko job, he needs to be out there. I would happily sign him given his price will depreciate due to being underused. Hardly surprising - he has the best striker in the prem ahead of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted February 9, 2016 Report Share Posted February 9, 2016 Given a run of games a very good player. He can't do the Dzecko job, he needs to be out there. I would happily sign him given his price will depreciate due to being underused. Hardly surprising - he has the best striker in the prem ahead of him. As far as I'm concerned the only things he has on Lukaku is that he's better in the air and has a fatter arse. Lukaku is 5 years younger, faster and a better finisher. Oh and Lukaku won't piss off to the ACON every two years. Not a chance in hell he plays ahead of Rom, and if we sold Rom and he became our number one striker to say I'd be underwhelmed is an understatement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted February 9, 2016 Report Share Posted February 9, 2016 As far as I'm concerned the only things he has on Lukaku is that he's better in the air and has a fatter arse. Lukaku is 5 years younger, faster and a better finisher. Oh and Lukaku won't piss off to the ACON every two years. Not a chance in hell he plays ahead of Rom, and if we sold Rom and he became our number one striker to say I'd be underwhelmed is an understatement. I'm looking at him as a replacement in the region of £15-£20m if Rom goes for £50-£60m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted February 9, 2016 Report Share Posted February 9, 2016 Roms one of the hottest property's in Europe at the moment. You can't replace him. You have to look at what's available and get the best you can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted February 9, 2016 Report Share Posted February 9, 2016 I'm looking at him as a replacement in the region of £15-£20m if Rom goes for £50-£60m I hope Martinez has better on his list than Bony as a replacement for Lukaku. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted February 9, 2016 Report Share Posted February 9, 2016 (edited) We could well be surprised at how well Naisse fares if he turns out to be a good solid player then if Lukaku did go that money IF given to spend could go on two possibly three players I genuinely think Guidetti would be a very good buy very similar to Lukaku in how he plays I'm not saying he's as good but he's better with the ball at his feet and still relatively young I'm not a big fan of Bony for previously said reasons he's a good player but not a solution and he wouldn't be a cheap one either Then the man the legend and most likely to become a myth Yarmolenko would do me although I'd prefer to keep Rom and build on what we have but I'd expect him to want out if a big CL club came knocking Edited February 9, 2016 by EFC-Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 9, 2016 Report Share Posted February 9, 2016 I've never been sold on Bony tbh. Flatters to deceive for me.can you imagine him paired with Rom though? Most defences would shot themselves. I've never thought he he was better but he's still a quality striker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted February 9, 2016 Report Share Posted February 9, 2016 can you imagine him paired with Rom though? Most defences would shot themselves. I've never thought he he was better but he's still a quality striker I'm not sure our strikers inspiring suicide would go down too well. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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