Romey 1878 Posted December 30, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2018 22 hours ago, hafnia said: His upside is too big to sell too soon. With a left foot like that it's conceivable he could make the breakthrough and play at top 6 standard. He will improve... whether it will be to our desired levels I don't know but I think he is deffo prem level. Gerrard wanted him at rangers... he's too good for that level. He looks like he has a decent shot on him, I'm seeing nothing of this upside you're talking about tbh. Weak, slow... I see those things though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted December 30, 2018 Report Share Posted December 30, 2018 57 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: He looks like he has a decent shot on him, I'm seeing nothing of this upside you're talking about tbh. Weak, slow... I see those things though. He's got decent feet, skill and yeah a crackin shot and vision. He could be athletically lacking but he's got a year or 2 till we know for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogs Posted December 30, 2018 Report Share Posted December 30, 2018 My Mrs is a big Blade and I'm forced to watch them more than I'd like, this will give me something to watch at least Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted December 31, 2018 Report Share Posted December 31, 2018 Respect to Mrs Nogs for being a footie fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 I watched a bit of the Norwich v Sheffield Utd game earlier and Dowell started. He played OK but just didn't really put his stamp on the performance before being subbed off. I'm not sure he has started many games so hopefully he gets more playing time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 Dowell starting tonight for Sheffield Utd on Sky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 Set up one at least Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 I thought he played well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted February 9, 2019 Report Share Posted February 9, 2019 He just looks so timid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted February 9, 2019 Report Share Posted February 9, 2019 52 minutes ago, Bailey said: He just looks so timid. He'll fit in very well then, I think our team is full of them. Bailey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted February 12, 2019 Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/evertons-kieran-dowell-praised-support-15796120 https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2019/02/10/sheffield-united-fans-react-to-everton-loanee-kieran-dowells-dis/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted February 12, 2019 Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 There is a quality player in there, I hope this loan spell brings it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted February 12, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 8 hours ago, pete0 said: https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/evertons-kieran-dowell-praised-support-15796120 https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2019/02/10/sheffield-united-fans-react-to-everton-loanee-kieran-dowells-dis/ I recall rave reviews by the Forest fans too, then they started complaining about his invisibility in games. He needs to show consistency over a season. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted February 12, 2019 Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 27 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: I recall rave reviews by the Forest fans too, then they started complaining about his invisibility in games. He needs to show consistency over a season. He reminds me a lot of Sigurdssen in that sense (and more fortunately in his technical ability too). Hopefully he'll have a bit more to him after getting a few more kicks in the Championship and impose himself on the pitch for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted February 13, 2019 Report Share Posted February 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Romey 1878 said: I recall rave reviews by the Forest fans too, then they started complaining about his invisibility in games. He needs to show consistency over a season. True, but he is very young and Forrest was his first run in a competitive team. Loans like this will help his consistency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted February 13, 2019 Report Share Posted February 13, 2019 He’s 21, it’s not like he’s a young kid. He is young, but he needs to be further along in his development if he wants to make it at Everton. That ship has sailed for me though. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted February 13, 2019 Report Share Posted February 13, 2019 Dowell plays in a position where, although pace helps, vision, positioning and decision making are just as important. I wouldn't necessarily write him off because it’s a tough position to learn (number 10) and actually getting his chance when he is ‘wiser’ may actually be of benefit to him and us. The best case scenario would be that he plays a significant part in getting Sheff Utd up then gets another year with them playing consistently in the Premier League. Didn’t Osman break into our first team as a 23/24 year old? If Dowell’s good enough, I’m sure Brands will have a plan for him. pete0 and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted February 13, 2019 Report Share Posted February 13, 2019 2 hours ago, c1982 said: Dowell plays in a position where, although pace helps, vision, positioning and decision making are just as important. I wouldn't necessarily write him off because it’s a tough position to learn (number 10) and actually getting his chance when he is ‘wiser’ may actually be of benefit to him and us. The best case scenario would be that he plays a significant part in getting Sheff Utd up then gets another year with them playing consistently in the Premier League. Didn’t Osman break into our first team as a 23/24 year old? If Dowell’s good enough, I’m sure Brands will have a plan for him. Very true that Osman did. But he wasn’t competing with what appears to be an open chequebook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted February 14, 2019 Report Share Posted February 14, 2019 https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2019/02/14/evertons-kieran-dowell-plays-brand-new-position-some-sheffield-u/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaidharper Posted February 14, 2019 Report Share Posted February 14, 2019 Always been a fan. Think he just needs to drink a full cup of snide and he will be there. Can't ghost in the #10. pete0 and Bailey 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted February 14, 2019 Report Share Posted February 14, 2019 12 minutes ago, plaidharper said: Always been a fan. Think he just needs to drink a full cup of snide and he will be there. Can't ghost in the #10. he is a LWB now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaidharper Posted February 14, 2019 Report Share Posted February 14, 2019 1 minute ago, markjazzbassist said: he is a LWB now For 1 game. Wonder if he will stay there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted February 14, 2019 Report Share Posted February 14, 2019 17 minutes ago, plaidharper said: For 1 game. Wonder if he will stay there? yeah i was being a smart ass, honestly i'm just glad he's playing at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaidharper Posted February 14, 2019 Report Share Posted February 14, 2019 1 minute ago, markjazzbassist said: yeah i was being a smart ass, honestly i'm just glad he's playing at this point. Indeed. The whole point of a loan is playing time to me. Learning to fight for your place is good but they can do that here. Game time is a must for a loan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted February 14, 2019 Report Share Posted February 14, 2019 On 13/02/2019 at 19:35, StevO said: He’s 21, it’s not like he’s a young kid. He is young, but he needs to be further along in his development if he wants to make it at Everton. That ship has sailed for me though. 21 is young in footballing terms, players don't reach their peak till 27/28. With a focus on youth and a lack of creativity in the side he still has time to make his way into the first team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted February 14, 2019 Report Share Posted February 14, 2019 Just now, London Blue said: 21 is young in footballing terms, players don't reach their peak till 27/28. With a focus on youth and a lack of creativity in the side he still has time to make his way into the first team. Yeah it is still young, but from what I’ve seen of him I just don’t think he’s good enough. I’d love to be wrong and him turn into a player like David Silva, but I’ll be shocked if it happens. I think we are holding on for a decent transfer fee. Do you honestly think we won’t just buy more players who are better than him? Focus on youth is all nice and good, but if we want to get to the levels Moshiri has talked about we won’t be waiting around. Matt, EFC-Paul and Romey 1878 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 11 hours ago, StevO said: Yeah it is still young, but from what I’ve seen of him I just don’t think he’s good enough. I’d love to be wrong and him turn into a player like David Silva, but I’ll be shocked if it happens. I think we are holding on for a decent transfer fee. Do you honestly think we won’t just buy more players who are better than him? Focus on youth is all nice and good, but if we want to get to the levels Moshiri has talked about we won’t be waiting around. This is essentially what I mean about Davies as well although I do think Davies is a better player who has shown some good signs lately It's a tough and potentially costly game gambling on youth that don't have that crystal clear natural ability, hopefully though they do kick on but I fully get Steve's point StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogs Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 Example in the papers today - remember Suso? Not good enough for Liverpool at 21, now at 25 Spurs and Arsenal are rumoured to be in for him for £35m. You just can't say for definite that players aren't going to be top class at 21. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 59 minutes ago, nogs said: Example in the papers today - remember Suso? Not good enough for Liverpool at 21, now at 25 Spurs and Arsenal are rumoured to be in for him for £35m. You just can't say for definite that players aren't going to be top class at 21. Suso was never going to become a first teamer whilst Coutinho was there plus the lad was clearly a very naturally gifted player No one is saying you can definitely rule out a 20/21 year old, it's judging their current ability and whether they have the ability to step it up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 7 hours ago, nogs said: Example in the papers today - remember Suso? Not good enough for Liverpool at 21, now at 25 Spurs and Arsenal are rumoured to be in for him for £35m. You just can't say for definite that players aren't going to be top class at 21. He would have to prove himself over here for that point to be worth making IMO. There will be other examples though. The other thing is how many players do you hold onto to see if they make it that far? If you think our U23 squad holds probably 20 players. Where do you draw the line? No matter what you do, some players will slip through the net. Romey 1878 and EFC-Paul 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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