rubecula Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 4 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: I hope not. Knob heads need not apply. meant skill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 9, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 9 hours ago, rubecula said: meant skill I hope not. Knob heads slowing down the play and losing the ball on the edge of their own penalty area need not apply. rubecula and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogs Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 2 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: I hope not. Knob heads slowing down the play and losing the ball on the edge of their own penalty area need not apply. Created more chances than any other player in the previous three seasons, apparently... rubecula 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 5 hours ago, nogs said: Created more chances than any other player in the previous three seasons, apparently... Just a shame about the quality of them... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 I’d like to think Dowell would have more time on the ball in the prem than the championship. I’m a bit concerned about his lack of pace but you can only give him a chance. What is he now 22/23? He needs to be making his mark next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiku Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 3 minutes ago, Finn balor said: I’d like to think Dowell would have more time on the ball in the prem than the championship. I’m a bit concerned about his lack of pace but you can only give him a chance. What is he now 22/23? He needs to be making his mark next season. He's 20, turning 21 in October. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogs Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 1 hour ago, pete0 said: Just a shame about the quality of them... Talk about trying to revise history Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 3 hours ago, nogs said: Talk about trying to revise history He's known for dawdling too long in the ball. We had the second best finisher in the league, Barkley should have been getting a lot more assists but hovered on the ball so by the time the pass was made the chance was much harder to convert. This Dowell looks like he's got a better pass and vision on him. nogs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted January 10, 2018 Report Share Posted January 10, 2018 Maybe we just don’t need to compare them at all? Vranny, nyblue23, nogs and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogs Posted January 10, 2018 Report Share Posted January 10, 2018 8 hours ago, pete0 said: He's known for dawdling too long in the ball. We had the second best finisher in the league, Barkley should have been getting a lot more assists but hovered on the ball so by the time the pass was made the chance was much harder to convert. This Dowell looks like he's got a better pass and vision on him. I'm pretty sure you don't remember 99% of the chances he created so are not really in a position to comment on whether they are good chances or bad chances. But I know I'd get a similar response to you if I told you Gana won 136 tackles last season, more than any other player in the Prem. 'Yeah but they were all shit tackles, he just fell on his arse 136 times and rolled away with the ball.' Matt, StevO, chicagoblue and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted January 10, 2018 Report Share Posted January 10, 2018 8 hours ago, nogs said: I'm pretty sure you don't remember 99% of the chances he created so are not really in a position to comment on whether they are good chances or bad chances. But I know I'd get a similar response to you if I told you Gana won 136 tackles last season, more than any other player in the Prem. 'Yeah but they were all shit tackles, he just fell on his arse 136 times and rolled away with the ball.' I am, and I did. Look at previous posts I'd say the majority agreed he dawdles, and that split second lost is huge at this level. Can be the difference between a clear cut chance and a half chance. Well done going back off topic though and bringing even more stuff into it as you obviously don't understand football or have the smarts to debate 👏 nyblue23 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogs Posted January 10, 2018 Report Share Posted January 10, 2018 18 minutes ago, pete0 said: I am, and I did. Look at previous posts I'd say the majority agreed he dawdles, and that split second lost is huge at this level. Can be the difference between a clear cut chance and a half chance. Well done going back off topic though and bringing even more stuff into it as you obviously don't understand football or have the smarts to debate 👏 No I presented a fact, which you chose to try to rubbish with an opinion. And then to prove you don't know how to debate, you had to get personal. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted January 10, 2018 Report Share Posted January 10, 2018 30 minutes ago, nogs said: No I presented a fact, which you chose to try to rubbish with an opinion. And then to prove you don't know how to debate, you had to get personal. I thought my response was polite in comparison to how condescending yours was. Frankly gave a smidgen back. Don't like what you don't understand do yer? Tell me more about the relevance of Gana in this debate... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogs Posted January 10, 2018 Report Share Posted January 10, 2018 8 minutes ago, pete0 said: I thought my response was polite in comparison to how condescending yours was. Frankly gave a smidgen back. Don't like what you don't understand do yer? Tell me more about the relevance of Gana in this debate... It's about as relevant as your idiot savant memory of every single chance Barkley created in the past three years. My apologies if I was condescending, I was attempting a humorous parody of you on your favourite topic. But no, you're right. Barkley was shit, Gana's shit, I know nothing about football and I'm not smart enough to debate with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted January 10, 2018 Report Share Posted January 10, 2018 http://www.nottinghampost.com/sport/football/kieran-dowell-officially-staying-nottingham-1041128 London Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted January 10, 2018 Report Share Posted January 10, 2018 43 minutes ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: http://www.nottinghampost.com/sport/football/kieran-dowell-officially-staying-nottingham-1041128 Good, best place for him to continue his development as he will be playing every week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted January 10, 2018 Report Share Posted January 10, 2018 19 hours ago, StevO said: Maybe we just don’t need to compare them at all? But where is the fun in that!? StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted January 10, 2018 Report Share Posted January 10, 2018 3 hours ago, nogs said: It's about as relevant as your idiot savant memory of every single chance Barkley created in the past three years. My apologies if I was condescending, I was attempting a humorous parody of you on your favourite topic. But no, you're right. Barkley was shit, Gana's shit, I know nothing about football and I'm not smart enough to debate with you. Are you genuinely going there on this forum. You're a fucking moron. Look in the Barkley thread, I'd do it myself but you're not worth the time. StevO and aaron 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 He's got the same agent as Barkley. Simply lovely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted January 12, 2018 Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 On 09/01/2018 at 22:44, pete0 said: He's known for dawdling too long in the ball. We had the second best finisher in the league, Barkley should have been getting a lot more assists but hovered on the ball so by the time the pass was made the chance was much harder to convert. This Dowell looks like he's got a better pass and vision on him. Sorry but even though I hate what Barkleys done his pass opportunity was hampered by lukakus league one level movement. No surprise United fans are in dismay at how shite his movement is. Pundits only starting to pay attention to it. Barkley will get a shed load of assists at Chelsea. Just everyone luck that we don't get to see barkley with a striker in front who is inytelligent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted January 12, 2018 Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 Fwiw. The maldini quote was overly self indulgent pretentious bollocks. Where did Bobby Moore make his mistake when he did that tackle on pele in 1970? The answer is that he didn't. Yes Mr maldini you were 10 yards ahead in the head but please fuck off with trying to invent defending. MikeO and nyblue23 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted January 12, 2018 Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 Barkley will have his work cut out to displace anybody at Chelsea so I can't see him getting any assists, I think they bought him just to make up the number of "English players". He'll probably be on the bench or loaned out. nyblue23, chicagoblue, markjazzbassist and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogs Posted January 12, 2018 Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 1 hour ago, hafnia said: Fwiw. The maldini quote was overly self indulgent pretentious bollocks. Where did Bobby Moore make his mistake when he did that tackle on pele in 1970? The answer is that he didn't. Yes Mr maldini you were 10 yards ahead in the head but please fuck off with trying to invent defending. Careful. If you disagree with him he'll call you a fucking moron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted January 12, 2018 Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 18 minutes ago, Bill said: Barkley will have his work cut out to displace anybody at Chelsea so I can't see him getting any assists, I think they bought him just to make up the number of "English players". He'll probably be on the bench or loaned out. i think so too bill, maybe the odd cup match here or there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted January 12, 2018 Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 2 hours ago, markjazzbassist said: i think so too bill, maybe the odd cup match here or there. If Walcott signs I bet Barkley ends up with more assists by the end of the season in all comps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted January 12, 2018 Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 5 minutes ago, Bailey said: If Walcott signs I bet Barkley ends up with more assists by the end of the season in all comps. Yeah I don’t rate Walcott so no argument there. Barkley doesn’t have a chance at this starting lineup, rotation and cup games would be it I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaidharper Posted January 12, 2018 Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 6 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: He's got the same agent as Barkley. Simply lovely. Dowell does? *facepalm* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 56 minutes ago, plaidharper said: Dowell does? *facepalm* Yep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted January 12, 2018 Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 7 hours ago, hafnia said: Fwiw. The maldini quote was overly self indulgent pretentious bollocks. Where did Bobby Moore make his mistake when he did that tackle on pele in 1970? The answer is that he didn't. Yes Mr maldini you were 10 yards ahead in the head but please fuck off with trying to invent defending. Alonso says similar. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.hitc.com/en-gb/2012/09/25/xabi-alonsotackling-is-not-really-a-quality-do-you-agree/ From the little I've watched of him, Dowell looks an intelligent player at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 12, 2018 Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, pete0 said: Alonso says similar. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.hitc.com/en-gb/2012/09/25/xabi-alonsotackling-is-not-really-a-quality-do-you-agree/ "They can play in tight spaces and they know how to interpret the pattern of a game. They know when to dribble and when to play a short pass." Bit like Gana. nyblue23 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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