Romey 1878 Posted December 19, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 41 minutes ago, StevO said: I think the pressure in the SPL would be interesting for him. Personally I don’t think he’ll make it here, but that could be the making of him. Being expected to win every week, even with the best players, isn’t an easy situation to be in. Someone gets where I was coming from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 8 hours ago, StevO said: I think the pressure in the SPL would be interesting for him. Personally I don’t think he’ll make it here, but that could be the making of him. Being expected to win every week, even with the best players, isn’t an easy situation to be in. Not exactly good preparation for potentially playing for Everton though. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 I also think that playing under a character with the determination and mind set of someone like Gerrard can only benefit him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 unless we are trying to sell him to Rangers i'm against this move. Leeds or a lower prem side like Huddersfield would be best IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 As much as I can't bare the man he could do much worse than learn from arguably one of the best midfielders the Prem has had over the last decade Not a great league but this season is probably the most competitive it's ever been Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavisJD Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 Terrible move for a loan to the SPL. If it’s not a loan to a PL side, I’d like to see him loaned in Spain where he could hone his technical ability or Germany which is proving a great place for developing young talent at the moment. DownUnderToff and markjazzbassist 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 15 hours ago, MikeO said: Not exactly good preparation for potentially playing for Everton though. Nothing will prepare him in my opinion. Needs to prepare for a transfer to have the best football career he possibly can. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 3 hours ago, DavisJD said: Terrible move for a loan to the SPL. If it’s not a loan to a PL side, I’d like to see him loaned in Spain where he could hone his technical ability or Germany which is proving a great place for developing young talent at the moment. Technical ability has never been the issue with Dowell. He has bags of it!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 22 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: Someone gets where I was coming from. Sometimes feels to me like people expect every prospect to make it. Just won’t happen. If it did Jose Baxter and JP Kissock would be our front two right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted December 20, 2018 Report Share Posted December 20, 2018 1 hour ago, StevO said: Sometimes feels to me like people expect every prospect to make it. Just won’t happen. If it did Jose Baxter and JP Kissock would be our front two right now. I completely agree. On the same wavelength we as a club will get more from a championship side than an SPL side. Gerard’s squad is half Liverpool loans and the like. Mike Ashley need I say more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUnderToff Posted December 20, 2018 Report Share Posted December 20, 2018 9 hours ago, StevO said: Nothing will prepare him in my opinion. Needs to prepare for a transfer to have the best football career he possibly can. Still a reason to target a better loan, put him in a bigger shop window and hopefully improve the return. Still think he's got enough ability, just needs to apply it. Lower Prem or Germany for mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted December 20, 2018 Report Share Posted December 20, 2018 13 hours ago, markjazzbassist said: I completely agree. On the same wavelength we as a club will get more from a championship side than an SPL side. Gerard’s squad is half Liverpool loans and the like. Mike Ashley need I say more? Oh no, my point is just let the kid go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted December 20, 2018 Report Share Posted December 20, 2018 6 hours ago, DownUnderToff said: Still a reason to target a better loan, put him in a bigger shop window and hopefully improve the return. Still think he's got enough ability, just needs to apply it. Lower Prem or Germany for mine. I’m never bothered by the price we get for a kid who hasn’t made it. Do what you can to help the kid get a good career, it’s more important than making a profit on them to me. Historically we have done what’s best for these young lads, and usually involves sell on clauses and minimal up front costs. Much more integrity in helping them than making a profit when the club is owned by a billionaire. MikeO, Matt and pete0 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted December 20, 2018 Report Share Posted December 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, StevO said: Oh no, my point is just let the kid go haha rate him that highly eh ste? i think we can get 2m or something from a championship side for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted December 20, 2018 Report Share Posted December 20, 2018 6 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said: haha rate him that highly eh ste? i think we can get 2m or something from a championship side for him. Haha extremely mate We probably could, just hope he goes to wherever is best for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUnderToff Posted December 20, 2018 Report Share Posted December 20, 2018 6 hours ago, StevO said: I’m never bothered by the price we get for a kid who hasn’t made it. Do what you can to help the kid get a good career, it’s more important than making a profit on them to me. Historically we have done what’s best for these young lads, and usually involves sell on clauses and minimal up front costs. Much more integrity in helping them than making a profit when the club is owned by a billionaire. Fair enough. Might only be 5 - 10m (maybe more in these crazy markets), but every bit is important in the long run. Our Billionaire owner is not just going to keep pumping in 5-10% of his net worth year on year. See SPL as more of a career killer. Doesn't seem like many come out and kick on, Van Dijk recently... anyone else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted December 20, 2018 Report Share Posted December 20, 2018 Steven Naismith?...... oh wait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted December 20, 2018 Report Share Posted December 20, 2018 dembele, wanyama, yeah there's not many Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted December 20, 2018 Report Share Posted December 20, 2018 44 minutes ago, DownUnderToff said: Fair enough. Might only be 5 - 10m (maybe more in these crazy markets), but every bit is important in the long run. Our Billionaire owner is not just going to keep pumping in 5-10% of his net worth year on year. See SPL as more of a career killer. Doesn't seem like many come out and kick on, Van Dijk recently... anyone else? That’s my point though, clubs who he would play every week for can’t afford to pay £5-10m for a player who has no experience. If we let him go for nothing but a load of clauses and bonuses it gives the lad a better chance to have a good career. I’d rather we did that and looked after these young lads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted December 21, 2018 Report Share Posted December 21, 2018 1 hour ago, StevO said: That’s my point though, clubs who he would play every week for can’t afford to pay £5-10m for a player who has no experience. If we let him go for nothing but a load of clauses and bonuses it gives the lad a better chance to have a good career. I’d rather we did that and looked after these young lads. If that’s truly how it works and a sale to rangers with a sell on clause and he does well and goes to say Leeds for decent money, then I’m with you Ste. Admittedly I don’t know the finance/contract side of the game that well and this concept in theory does sound pretty good. One other factor is how Brands handles things as I’m sure he will play a part in the goings and might have methods he prefers. StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted December 23, 2018 Report Share Posted December 23, 2018 Deal to go to Sheffield United imminent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted December 23, 2018 Report Share Posted December 23, 2018 Just now, Finn balor said: Deal to go to Sheffield United imminent Loan or full transfer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted December 23, 2018 Report Share Posted December 23, 2018 Loan apparently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted December 23, 2018 Report Share Posted December 23, 2018 good for him, hope he likes it there and they have some coin to buy him at the end of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted December 28, 2018 Report Share Posted December 28, 2018 Sent out on loan: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46702649 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted December 28, 2018 Report Share Posted December 28, 2018 Good for him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted December 28, 2018 Report Share Posted December 28, 2018 Needs to really impress there to push for a place in our squad. Best of luck to him he obviously has the ability to one day be a PL player - but is it at Everton? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heath Posted December 29, 2018 Report Share Posted December 29, 2018 Best of luck to him. Hope he can do the business for Sheffield United, and come back to us a better player. pete0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted December 29, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2018 11 hours ago, Aidan said: Needs to really impress there to push for a place in our squad. Best of luck to him he obviously has the ability to one day be a PL player - but is it at Everton? Championship level for me. Hope he does well and we can bring in a decent amount for him. EFC-Paul 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted December 29, 2018 Report Share Posted December 29, 2018 2 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: Championship level for me. Hope he does well and we can bring in a decent amount for him. His upside is too big to sell too soon. With a left foot like that it's conceivable he could make the breakthrough and play at top 6 standard. He will improve... whether it will be to our desired levels I don't know but I think he is deffo prem level. Gerrard wanted him at rangers... he's too good for that level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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