London Blue Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 We don't need an Osman type and he's nowhere near as good as Ossie was anyway. I respect your opinion but I think we do, a player who can come on and inject some pace, quick passing and energy. I'm not saying he is going to be regular but he is an option we need. Time will tell regarding the comparison with Ossy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 I respect your opinion but I think we do, a player who can come on and inject some pace, quick passing and energy. I'm not saying he is going to be regular but he is an option we need. Time will tell regarding the comparison with Ossy. I've pretty much said he's ok for the squad. He's not a starter though. Not in a million years. We need to go back to two proper wingers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 Pre injury he was great whether that's had a lasting effect on him remains to be seen but I do agree with MC if we want to push on he's not a starter To fit him in you have to compromise your formation and he's not good enough to justify doing that for me, we need to bring in a creative player and drop this two holding/deep laying midfielder bollocks I'd keep him around but he wouldn't start for me if we wish to push on and invest wisely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 I always think when we buy these little squad fillers that that's were the young players from Finch Farm should come in. It does my tits in buying in players that are no better than the youth who should be getting a chance. That's not aimed at TC (thought he was ace early in the season!). Regards to him, like everyone, the new man has to decide. They all get to start again. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 I always think when we buy these little squad fillers that that's were the young players from Finch Farm should come in. It does my tits in buying in players that are no better than the youth who should be getting a chance. That's not aimed at TC (thought he was ace early in the season!). Regards to him, like everyone, the new man has to decide. They all get to start again. after seeing Davies, Dowell i'm wondering why even bother replacing gibson, just play those lads. same with the 3rd/4th CB position, should be galloway and pennington's to lose. no need for the old vet when we have cheap quality homegrown options. save the money for the big signings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makis Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 Linked with Lucien Favre (again?). Wouldn't mind, did a really good job at Mönchengladbach. Tight defensively, good counter-attacking team and style not too bad on the eye. Also good at developing youth players, Marco Reus is what he is thanks to Favre. He has the knack of making even the stars and offensive players work as part of a unit. On top of that, he had to rebuild the side after Reus, Dante and Neustäder all left. Yet they managed to finish 8th the next season and 6th the season after that (they finished 4th with Reus). Impressive considering the team were last in Bundesliga in February when he took over. He saved them and consequently took them to the CL. This is a good article: http://www.thetacticsroom.com/articles/2014/11/20/lucien-favre-is-leading-the-foals-to-water-and-it-looks-like-theyll-drink-it-too A more detailed look at his tactics: http://theinsidechannel.com/lucien-favres-tactics-at-borussia-monchengladbach/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makis Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 One more article on Favre and his tactics: http://www.just-football.com/2015/03/how-borussia-moenchengladbach-became-the-bundesliga-surprise-package/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted May 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 Favre has been my choice for a while. Think he'd be brilliant personally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlblue Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 If we're looking to move up the table... There's no way Tom Cleverley can be seen as a first teamer. Our success in Martinez first season was based on two wide players and Barkley. Cleverley isn't good enough to play in the middle either. Bit harsh on Cleverley, I think hes a very solid player been much better than most this season.Always get a good shift out of him, i think every team needs this kind of player. Favre - i cant really comment dont know much about him, headlines raving because Wenger knows him but he knew Remi Garde too . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 he was awful on the left wing, he's not a winger. so really the only other place to play him was central midfield. he wasn't great there either. like a barry without a lot of pace, but he doesn't have the passing skills barry has. he's squad filler and not even much of that for me. Completely disagree. He had some of his best games on the left, linking up with the more central players. He was brought to Everton to play on the left. I agree he isn't a winger, but he is a very capable left midfielder. With an attacking left back he can be a great asset. In central midfield he was not good at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 Don't get the Cleverley hate. Before his injury he was superb. That injury was a big blow as it happened after a good pre season and his match sharpness just went. He needs to be fully fit like mccarthy. He's not a skilled or flair player, more industrious who needs to be fully functional. He cost fuck all and is a solid squad member. dlblue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 Don't get the Cleverley hate. Before his injury he was superb. That injury was a big blow as it happened after a good pre season and his match sharpness just went. He needs to be fully fit like mccarthy. He's not a skilled or flair player, more industrious who needs to be fully functional. He cost fuck all and is a solid squad member. Where do we want to be Haf? Mid table 7th, 8th? If we want to crack on we need to forget about players like Cleverley and McCarthy. Solid squad players but not good enough for challenging IMO. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 I respect your opinion but I think we do, a player who can come on and inject some pace, quick passing and energy. I'm not saying he is going to be regular but he is an option we need. Time will tell regarding the comparison with Ossy. Inject some pace, Osmand and Cleverly?? markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 Inject some pace, Osmand and Cleverly?? To be fair Donny was always the quickest. Chach and markjazzbassist 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlblue Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 (edited) Where do we want to be Haf? Mid table 7th, 8th? If we want to crack on we need to forget about players like Cleverley and McCarthy. Solid squad players but not good enough for challenging IMO. Plenty of Winning teams have a workhorse, a player who allows the creative players to shine. Edited May 18, 2016 by Dean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makis Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 Where do we want to be Haf? Mid table 7th, 8th? If we want to crack on we need to forget about players like Cleverley and McCarthy. Solid squad players but not good enough for challenging IMO. We are not in position to have 22 world class players. You won't have those sitting on the bench at a club this size. City, Chelsea and United can sign them if they wish, not us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 We are not in position to have 22 world class players. You won't have those sitting on the bench at a club this size. City, Chelsea and United can sign them if they wish, not us. Read properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 To be fair Donny was always the quickest. ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 Favre being strongly linked now. Just read up on him. Sounds pretty good to me. Develops youth too, so all good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogs Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 Emery for me. That must have been some team talk tonight, Sevilla were shite first half made them look like us at Anfield second half. Clearly knows how to fire a team up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 Emery for me. That must have been some team talk tonight, Sevilla were shite first half made them look like us at Anfield second half. Clearly knows how to fire a team up. Get off the drugs mate. Came in here looking for this exact post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagoblue Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 Get off the drugs mate. Came in here looking for this exact post. No idea what this means, Emery would be a coup, but no way he would come here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 Get off the drugs mate. Came in here looking for this exact post. Pretty accurate description tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 No idea what this means, Emery would be a coup, but no way he would come here. It would be a huge coup but after tonight he'll be marked for much bigger things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted May 18, 2016 Report Share Posted May 18, 2016 Yeah, surely he can't be ignored by 'big' clubs anymore? He's only 44 and had 3rd position finishes with Valencia and 3 Europa Cups with Sevilla. The guy has something. Unfortunately, he's moved out of our league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogs Posted May 19, 2016 Report Share Posted May 19, 2016 Get off the drugs mate. Came in here looking for this exact post. Oh I am sorry. There's everyone banging on about Mourinho... https://mobile.twitter.com/RorySmithTimes/status/733040225950302208 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted May 19, 2016 Report Share Posted May 19, 2016 Koemans ruled himself out today apparently according to Talksport he's said he will reject any approach from us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubecula Posted May 19, 2016 Report Share Posted May 19, 2016 Just now I am more concerned with WHEN not WHO. If we don't get a move on we will be starting the new season and the new man at the helm will hardly have a clue on the best team to put out, AND we will not have a good transfer window. Surely the board knew before RM got the elbow who they wanted in? So why nothing is happening is beyond me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veedublin Posted May 19, 2016 Report Share Posted May 19, 2016 there appears to be renewed speculation surrounding Lucien Favre. http://royalbluemersey.sbnation.com/2016/5/18/11700048/wednesday-everton-manager-and-director-rumors http://www.football365.com/news/evertons-new-manager-i-am-your-favre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted May 19, 2016 Report Share Posted May 19, 2016 Just now I am more concerned with WHEN not WHO. If we don't get a move on we will be starting the new season and the new man at the helm will hardly have a clue on the best team to put out, AND we will not have a good transfer window. Surely the board knew before RM got the elbow who they wanted in? So why nothing is happening is beyond me. You don't know that nothing is happening, for all we know they could have agreed to appoint Lowe but are waiting until after the Euros to announce it Or maybe we are still negotiating with a club in order to speak to a manager, it's only been a couple of weeks since we sacked Roberto these things take time rubecula, markjazzbassist and MikeO 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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