Hafnia Posted May 24, 2023 Report Share Posted May 24, 2023 Never in my life can I recall a club playing 75% of a season without a recognised striker. Let alone a club with so few goals from midfield. if we manage to get over the line then we must demand and drive the exits required at the top. I’m absolutely dumbfounded at how shit the people who run our club are. disgraceful. If we had DCL fit for Bournemouth I wouldn’t feel half as nervous as I am. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KinL Posted May 24, 2023 Report Share Posted May 24, 2023 20 hours ago, Wall Writer said: Oops! Thanks Mike for putting my mind at ease. We've got nothing to worry about after all! Don't give up hope for Maupay, there's a 0.04 chance that he might just bag one. I think he's averaged a shot per game this season so we're in with a chance. Wall Writer and Palfy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted May 24, 2023 Report Share Posted May 24, 2023 Maupay had a good track record with Brighton. For sure, he’s contributed little at Everton, but that doesn’t mean he’s lacking in ability. As always, players excel when we leverage their strengths. Having said that, I would prefer Gray or Simms to start. MikeO, StevO and Matt 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted May 24, 2023 Report Share Posted May 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Cornish Steve said: Maupay had a good track record with Brighton. For sure, he’s contributed little at Everton, but that doesn’t mean he’s lacking in ability. As always, players excel when we leverage their strengths. Having said that, I would prefer Gray or Simms to start. He had a good track record in the championship. In the prem nothing much doing at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted May 24, 2023 Report Share Posted May 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Cornish Steve said: Maupay had a good track record with Brighton. For sure, he’s contributed little at Everton, but that doesn’t mean he’s lacking in ability. As always, players excel when we leverage their strengths. Having said that, I would prefer Gray or Simms to start. Crucial must win last game is not the time to take another chance with Maupay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted May 24, 2023 Report Share Posted May 24, 2023 23 minutes ago, Gwlad all over said: Crucial must win last game is not the time to take another chance with Maupay. Agreed, but some of the Maupay-bashing is over the top. Matt and Bailey 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted May 24, 2023 Report Share Posted May 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Cornish Steve said: Maupay had a good track record with Brighton. For sure, he’s contributed little at Everton, but that doesn’t mean he’s lacking in ability. As always, players excel when we leverage their strengths. Having said that, I would prefer Gray or Simms to start. 20-21, 32 games and 8 goals with 2 assists, 21-22, 33 games 8 goals and 2 assists, both seasons pretty much the same 1 goal every 4 games, and 1 assist every 16 games. Not what many would consider a good track record imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Goodison Glory Posted May 24, 2023 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 24, 2023 24 minutes ago, Palfy said: 20-21, 32 games and 8 goals with 2 assists, 21-22, 33 games 8 goals and 2 assists, both seasons pretty much the same 1 goal every 4 games, and 1 assist every 16 games. Not what many would consider a good track record imo. It's also not a "nothing at all in the prem". Barring one season DCL hasn't done much better than one in 3 in any season. I'm not a maupay supporter, I don't want him in the team because clearly it's not worked, but to say "he's done nothing" is a touch exaggerated. MikeO, Bailey, StevO and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MikeO Posted May 24, 2023 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, Goodison Glory said: It's also not a "nothing at all in the prem". Barring one season DCL hasn't done much better than one in 3 in any season. I'm not a maupay supporter, I don't want him in the team because clearly it's not worked, but to say "he's done nothing" is a touch exaggerated. I agree, 26 goals over three PL seasons at Brighton for someone who's not an outright number nine is a decent return, 'specially in a team finishing 15th, 16th and 9th. We plainly don't play to his strengths but that doesn't mean he hasn't got any. Bailey, Cornish Steve, Romey 1878 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted May 24, 2023 Report Share Posted May 24, 2023 1 hour ago, MikeO said: I agree, 26 goals over three PL seasons at Brighton for someone who's not an outright number nine is a decent return, 'specially in a team finishing 15th, 16th and 9th. We plainly don't play to his strengths but that doesn't mean he hasn't got any. He stated that he "can play out wide or as a number 10, but my favoured position is striker. I like to play down the middle and use my pace to get in behind defences" and "I'm used to looking after the ball and holding off defenders".[6 I’ve not seen any of that from him. Pace? None. Look after the ball? None. He scored most of his goals in the championship. 10 is his record in the prem as a striker for Brighton when they were scoring goals - put into context Dwight mcneil has 7 from left mid for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted May 24, 2023 Report Share Posted May 24, 2023 15 minutes ago, Hafnia said: He stated that he "can play out wide or as a number 10, but my favoured position is striker. I like to play down the middle and use my pace to get in behind defences" and "I'm used to looking after the ball and holding off defenders".[6 I’ve not seen any of that from him. Pace? None. Look after the ball? None. He scored most of his goals in the championship. 10 is his record in the prem as a striker for Brighton when they were scoring goals - put into context Dwight mcneil has 7 from left mid for us. His favoured position is obviously not his best one. When Brighton were scoring goals? 121 over three seasons so just a smidge over one goal per game, not exactly prolific. McNeil has 14 PL goals in 169 career games, Maupay 27 in 129; I'm not talking purely about contibutions to us this season but value/strike rate over a career. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted May 24, 2023 Report Share Posted May 24, 2023 2 hours ago, Goodison Glory said: It's also not a "nothing at all in the prem". Barring one season DCL hasn't done much better than one in 3 in any season. I'm not a maupay supporter, I don't want him in the team because clearly it's not worked, but to say "he's done nothing" is a touch exaggerated. Show me where I said he’s done nothing I said it’s not good imo. There are plenty of midfielders with more impressive stats than his, if good was ranked as B he’s a D below average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted May 24, 2023 Report Share Posted May 24, 2023 18 minutes ago, MikeO said: His favoured position is obviously not his best one. When Brighton were scoring goals? 121 over three seasons so just a smidge over one goal per game, not exactly prolific. McNeil has 14 PL goals in 169 career games, Maupay 27 in 129; I'm not talking purely about contibutions to us this season but value/strike rate over a career. He scored 10 in a season for brighton. That’s his best, Brighton scored 39 goals. Admittedly they weren’t scoring goals. But 1 in 4 ratio as main striker. Dwight mcneil - a player who isn’t a striker, far less prolific career wise, has 7 for us of our 33 goals from the wing. my point being, maupay hasn’t done his job. As you will know I’m not one to judge strikers purely on goals, but he has been absolutely abysmal from a contribution perspective I do not want to see him start on Sunday, I genuinely think he’s one of the worst I’ve witnessed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted May 24, 2023 Report Share Posted May 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Hafnia said: 10 is his record in the prem as a striker for Brighton when they were scoring goals... 13 minutes ago, Hafnia said: He scored 10 in a season for brighton....Admittedly they weren’t scoring goals... Backing down? That's a first Newty82 and StevO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted May 24, 2023 Report Share Posted May 24, 2023 When Lampard brought Maupay in he bought him to score goals, the only other striker/forward in the team was DCL with a long term injury, I refuse to believe he was bought for any other reason than to get goals. So on the basis he hasn’t delivered how can he be classed as good his average returns for Brighton show that, he wasn’t a success before he came here and he has managed to drop even further since joining us. Formby, Hafnia and Wiggytop 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggytop Posted May 24, 2023 Report Share Posted May 24, 2023 It’s not just his lack of goals that’s been disappointing, it’s his overall contribution, half arsed pressing, tracking back, tackles, Dom shows what we need ( when he’s available) Maupay just doesn’t come close IMO. Hafnia and Palfy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted May 24, 2023 Report Share Posted May 24, 2023 5 hours ago, Cornish Steve said: Agreed, but some of the Maupay-bashing is over the top. I feel for him, just not up to the job we expected him to do. Please don't start him on Sunday though. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted May 24, 2023 Report Share Posted May 24, 2023 2 hours ago, MikeO said: Backing down? That's a first I admit when wrong. It’s just not that often I am Matt, Newty82 and Romey 1878 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deacs Posted May 25, 2023 Report Share Posted May 25, 2023 3 hours ago, Hafnia said: I admit when wrong. It’s just not that often I am You sound just like my better half Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Romey 1878 Posted May 25, 2023 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 25, 2023 5 hours ago, Deacs said: You sound just like my better half Tell me she's a twat, without telling me she's a twat. KinL, Matt, Deacs and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hafnia Posted May 25, 2023 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 25, 2023 6 hours ago, Deacs said: You sound just like my better half Mines just the same hahaha, I only come in here to feel like I can win an argument Romey 1878, KinL, Newty82 and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted May 25, 2023 Report Share Posted May 25, 2023 3 hours ago, Hafnia said: Mines just the same hahaha, I only come in here to feel like I can win an argument It's all starting to make sense..... Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted May 25, 2023 Report Share Posted May 25, 2023 58 minutes ago, Newty82 said: It's all starting to make sense..... Shut up ya tool Newty82 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted May 27, 2023 Report Share Posted May 27, 2023 Maupay may be a striker, but he’s not a lone striker. For him to be effective he needs to be in a partnership. Matt, London Blue, Romey 1878 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted May 27, 2023 Report Share Posted May 27, 2023 6 hours ago, StevO said: Maupay may be a striker, but he’s not a lone striker. For him to be effective he needs to be in a partnership. I’m not going to argue with that it isn’t worth it, just to say why did Everton buy him when they had no other available strikers to partner him, and why did Lampard and now Dyche play him in that lone role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted May 27, 2023 Report Share Posted May 27, 2023 7 hours ago, StevO said: Maupay may be a striker, but he’s not a lone striker. For him to be effective he needs to be in a partnership. So why did we sign him? I don’t get it. We needed a wide man/goal scorer. We didn’t play 442 with lampard. just a mess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Romey 1878 Posted May 27, 2023 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, Hafnia said: So why did we sign him? I don’t get it. We needed a wide man/goal scorer. We didn’t play 442 with lampard. just a mess Played in the Premier League? Check. Scored in the Premier League? Check. Available? Check. No thought whatsoever given to if he actually fits how we/the manager want us to play. We're a rotten football club. Matt, Goodison Glory, chicagoblue and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted May 27, 2023 Report Share Posted May 27, 2023 31 minutes ago, Hafnia said: So why did we sign him? I don’t get it. We needed a wide man/goal scorer. We didn’t play 442 with lampard. just a mess Panic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted May 27, 2023 Report Share Posted May 27, 2023 2 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: Played in the Premier League? Check. Scored in the Premier League? Check. Available? Check. No thought whatsoever given to if he actually fits how we/the manager want us to play. We're a rotten football club. I’ve sat through hours of watching baz and Andy the talent scout on toffeetv…. The names I’ve seen pulled out. Saliba, leao, but no, we have to buy off casts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted May 27, 2023 Report Share Posted May 27, 2023 Looks like we could get gyokeres now. Coventry lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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