MikeO Posted December 10, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2022 8 minutes ago, dunlopp9987 said: Absolutely not. Also that's a penalty. My first thought when it was given was that someone other than Kane should take it, just had a feeling he'd miss. Romey 1878 and dunlopp9987 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunlopp9987 Posted December 10, 2022 Report Share Posted December 10, 2022 58 minutes ago, Hafnia said: Feels very similar to watching Everton last year. Var and refs have their agenda, simple as that After watching the whole game, I'd say the ref isn't biased against one side or the other. He's just a shit ref Bailey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted December 10, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2022 Hopefully this will be the end for Southgate; for me, given the quality at his disposal, we've looked half decent in the last few years despite him, rather than because of him. Imagine a Guardiola having that squad for example, we'd have trophies in the cabinet. Romey 1878, KinL and Hafnia 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted December 10, 2022 Report Share Posted December 10, 2022 21 minutes ago, dunlopp9987 said: So question, is this whole "adding the actual amount of stoppage time" going to find its way into the European leagues after the WC break? Or do we think this is just an international tournament thing? The PL have already said they won’t be doing it, obviously. dunlopp9987 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted December 10, 2022 Report Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, MikeO said: Hopefully this will be the end for Southgate; for me, given the quality at his disposal, we've looked half decent in the last few years despite him, rather than because of him. Imagine a Guardiola having that squad for example, we'd have trophies in the cabinet. I’m hoping for that too but feel pretty sure we’ll be stuck with him until after the next Euro’s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo 2.0 Posted December 10, 2022 Report Share Posted December 10, 2022 57 minutes ago, dunlopp9987 said: Absolutely not. Also that's a penalty. Both penalties were stonewall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted December 10, 2022 Report Share Posted December 10, 2022 33 minutes ago, Zoo 2.0 said: Both penalties were stonewall. I can’t believe he didn’t give the second one and needed VAR to step in. KinL and Bailey 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted December 10, 2022 Report Share Posted December 10, 2022 Not bothered that we haven't progressed further. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted December 11, 2022 Report Share Posted December 11, 2022 Time for a game of World Cup bingo: England miss a penalty and get knocked out England snatch defeat from the jaws of victory “It’s the ref’s fault” “England deserved to win” France win! BINGO!! Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted December 11, 2022 Report Share Posted December 11, 2022 For all the quality attacking players we have, all we did was huff and puff. Our best chance (pens aside - which was shocking French defending) was a Maguire header from a set piece (also shocking French defending). I think that is probably the best we have played in a big game but I think we were second best on the night and as the French showed when it went to 1-1 they had gears to go through and it was probably more of a case of them taking their foot off the gas that made us look better than we really were. Almost all of this squad will still be around for the Euros (Walker/Henderson/Trippier aside) so we do get to have another crack at it but I feel like Kane will be on his way out by the next World Cup and he will be tough to replace. I have no idea who is winning this though, Croatia and Morocco have shown themselves to be really tough to beat whereas Argentina and France both have the quality to break both sides down. I feel like Argentina are probably the most balanced side, whereas France are probably the most potent. Croatia seem to be the most battle hardened team, and Morocco are probably the team most neutrals want to win! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted December 11, 2022 Report Share Posted December 11, 2022 Bailey, I don’t think they went up any gears at 1-1 at all. We were still well on top and then gifted them a goal with some shoddy defending. I thought over the whole game we were the better side. Which I was surprised about after how badly we’d played in that first half. But, if you don’t make the most of being in charge of the game and score more than the opposition then you don’t deserve to win. It’s as simple as that. KinL, duncanmckenzieismagic and Sibdane 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted December 11, 2022 Report Share Posted December 11, 2022 18 hours ago, Sibdane said: Saw this last might. I can’t believe it. It will be pretty wild if it turns out to be foul play. He mentioned in his podcast the day before that he was under the weather but also felt like he was coming out of the other side of it. It’s too early to know, but either way it’s tragic. He did such excellent work and seemed like an incredible person. 17 hours ago, dunlopp9987 said: Truly. He really was a pioneer when it comes to covering the sport here in the states. I was really stunned when I saw it. https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/dec/10/grant-wahl-death-world-cup-qatar-2022-tribute-soccer Sibdane and dunlopp9987 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted December 11, 2022 Report Share Posted December 11, 2022 13 hours ago, Cornish Steve said: Time for a game of World Cup bingo: England miss a penalty and get knocked out England snatch defeat from the jaws of victory “It’s the ref’s fault” “England deserved to win” France win! BINGO!! The funny thing is, I'd thought to post this message 24 hours ago, before kickoff, but then I thought twice about it given how full of hope everyone must be. Why should I burst their bubble? If I'd had the courage, though, it would make it even more funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunlopp9987 Posted December 11, 2022 Report Share Posted December 11, 2022 4 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/dec/10/grant-wahl-death-world-cup-qatar-2022-tribute-soccer God this breaks my heart. I genuinely haven't been stunned by a public figure's death like this in quite some time, especially considering the timing of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted December 11, 2022 Report Share Posted December 11, 2022 13 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: Bailey, I don’t think they went up any gears at 1-1 at all. We were still well on top and then gifted them a goal with some shoddy defending. I thought over the whole game we were the better side. Which I was surprised about after how badly we’d played in that first half. But, if you don’t make the most of being in charge of the game and score more than the opposition then you don’t deserve to win. It’s as simple as that. I disagree, they forced a save from Pickford immediately from kick off. Giroud then stepped over when he could have got a shot away deep inside our 18 yard box and Pickford made another save from Giroud square in front of goal, not far out. Then they scored. IMO that was them shifting in attitude from a cagey hang on to a lead way of playing to, lets buck our ideas up and win this. The gap between the equaliser and the winner was probably Frances best period of creating chances. My view is that you are only in charge of a game if you are creating chances and opportunities to go with it. At no point did we really look like a goal was coming for all that we retained the ball better than we normally do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted December 11, 2022 Report Share Posted December 11, 2022 3 hours ago, dunlopp9987 said: God this breaks my heart. I genuinely haven't been stunned by a public figure's death like this in quite some time, especially considering the timing of it. Same here. I knew he was pretty well-liked, but I had no idea the impact he had on so many people personally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo 2.0 Posted December 11, 2022 Report Share Posted December 11, 2022 4 hours ago, Cornish Steve said: The funny thing is, I'd thought to post this message 24 hours ago, before kickoff, but then I thought twice about it given how full of hope everyone must be. Why should I burst their bubble? If I'd had the courage, though, it would make it even more funny. Should be on stage Steve, lung splitting banter. Romey 1878, Palfy and Matt 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MikeO Posted December 11, 2022 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted December 11, 2022 Interesting revelation in this piece on the BBC, always quality journalism! "Gareth Southgate's side left their hotel in Al Wakrah before their flight home." https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63934519 Zoo 2.0, Matt, Cornish Steve and 2 others 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted December 12, 2022 Report Share Posted December 12, 2022 Time for a new manager. One, I can’t stand the media backing him. He’s done “alright” to decent…. They are making out he’s taken a minnows squad to the latter stages. but I’m sorry, that squad of players is very very strong and should be doing better. The reality is most top managers in the business would love to manage England cos they are that strong. Sibdane, MikeO and Btay 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted December 12, 2022 Report Share Posted December 12, 2022 The question if Southgate is going to go, is who replaces him? I think that Southgate is tactically naive and overly negative despite the quality of the attacking players he has, but a lot of national team managers leave a lot to be desired. Do you stick with a guy who will more often than not get us deep into a tournament only to fail when the games get tough, only to maybe fall over the line a bit like we almost did against Italy. Or do you go in a different direction and go for someone where it could backfire and set us back a few years again like we did with Capello, McLaren, Allardyce, Hodgson etc? I think we need to do everything we can with this group of players as there is no guarantee this amount of quality will come around again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted December 12, 2022 Report Share Posted December 12, 2022 6 minutes ago, Bailey said: The question if Southgate is going to go, is who replaces him? Come back Sam. All is forgiven. Can’t you see from Qatar that corruption is no longer an obstacle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted December 12, 2022 Report Share Posted December 12, 2022 On 11/12/2022 at 20:07, MikeO said: Interesting revelation in this piece on the BBC, always quality journalism! "Gareth Southgate's side left their hotel in Al Wakrah before their flight home." https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63934519 To be fair, it's a long walk home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted December 14, 2022 Report Share Posted December 14, 2022 Update on Grant Wahl who passed at the WC: I’m glad there’s no foul play suspected at least. RIP Grant. dunlopp9987 and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dunlopp9987 Posted December 16, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted December 16, 2022 https://www.espn.com/soccer/fifa-world-cup/story/4832862/fifa-president-gianni-infantino-players-should-respect-football-by-not-protesting I hate this guy so much. Romey 1878, MikeO, Sibdane and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted December 16, 2022 Report Share Posted December 16, 2022 Yeah, fuck that dude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted December 18, 2022 Report Share Posted December 18, 2022 As expected, Southgate is sticking around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted December 18, 2022 Report Share Posted December 18, 2022 2 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: As expected, Southgate is sticking around. Ffs. I can’t abide him. 24 games against top 10 teams, won 4 of them. it’s like us under Moyes, get very rich winning against teams you expect to beat and fail against the better teams and bottle big matches. Romey 1878, Sibdane, Formby and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted December 18, 2022 Report Share Posted December 18, 2022 How annoyed is Ronaldo right now MikeO, Sibdane and Romey 1878 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted December 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2022 9 minutes ago, Matt said: How annoyed is Ronaldo right now That's the best thing about today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted December 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2022 Martinez has a 23.1% penalty save rate, Lloris 12.1%; was pretty much done and dusted when it finished a draw. Wonder if France had a better option on the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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