Hoof_It_Nev Posted June 10, 2023 Report Share Posted June 10, 2023 10 hours ago, Aidan said: I hope this isn't the case because it will mean the board aren't confident that we haven't breached FFP. How can we be? We've been told by the prem that we haven't, but until this independent commission clears us then how can we know for sure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted June 10, 2023 Report Share Posted June 10, 2023 Dyche knows how much money he has. He said before the season ended that he has already had talks about it, but for now he concentrating on the next game. Dyche wouldn’t have even come here without having that conversation in meetings before hand. And if he hasn’t…. Then I’m shocked how he ever got as far as he has. Bloody hell I can’t hire a plasterer without having those conversations…. And plastering isn’t even a real trade Formby 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post duncanmckenzieismagic Posted June 14, 2023 Popular Post Report Share Posted June 14, 2023 Well the window is now officially open, can’t wait until 22:50 on 1st September when we sign someone ! Romey 1878, Sibdane, Matt and 5 others 1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted June 14, 2023 Report Share Posted June 14, 2023 1 hour ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: Well the window is now officially open, can’t wait until 22:50 on 1st September when we sign someone ! Or no one, at all, during the window again... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted June 14, 2023 Report Share Posted June 14, 2023 I think there will be two signings ..... ch and str plus two loans ... rw and mid. AlbanyNYToffee and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harv Posted June 14, 2023 Report Share Posted June 14, 2023 But who will be on the way out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harv Posted June 14, 2023 Report Share Posted June 14, 2023 I don’t think we have a player who is a don’t sell at any cost. May be a fit D. C-L. can’t see a club taking the risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted June 14, 2023 Report Share Posted June 14, 2023 17 minutes ago, Harv said: I don’t think we have a player who is a don’t sell at any cost. May be a fit D. C-L. can’t see a club taking the risk. I would say Pickford falls into that category Romey 1878 and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harv Posted June 14, 2023 Report Share Posted June 14, 2023 29 minutes ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: I would say Pickford falls into that category My mistake, should have said outfield player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodison Glory Posted June 14, 2023 Report Share Posted June 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Bill said: I think there will be two signings ..... ch and str plus two loans ... rw and mid. So no FB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRob Posted June 14, 2023 Report Share Posted June 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Harv said: But who will be on the way out. If we could get £60m for Onana I would take that - He was hot and cold last season and hadn't made himself an integral part of the team. Yes, he will get better, but think at the moment £60M in to a transfer kitty may be more useful to us as a club. He wouldn't feel like a £60M loss to the team, much like Gordon didn't feel like a £45M loss in January. Would be happy to see Gray go, as he will command a fee - maybe up to £10M and is definitely a fringe Dyche player so will fall down the pecking order as other players come in. Obviously Maupay leaving for some sort of fee would be most welcome, £5M ish maybe and would say maybe the same for Keane. Just getting Gomez, Gbamin and Alli of the payroll would be great as well. That could generate of the order of £70M, and add to that some of the Gordon transfer funds (if its still available like it was in January), then potentially not the worst transfer kitty available - potentially be nudging the £100M mark. I might be far of the mark, and transfer fee gains simply cancel out all the lost sponsorship we have lost. Who fucking knows with this club - as its never straight forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted June 14, 2023 Report Share Posted June 14, 2023 I wouldn’t sell Onana unless we had to make up on financial grounds. I think he’ll be worth more next year. Give him a solid pre-season under stable management, and I think we’ll see some progress. Shukes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRob Posted June 14, 2023 Report Share Posted June 14, 2023 I just don't think we are yet a club that can afford the luxury of £60M worth of potential in our midfield, at the expense of an increased budget to spend elsewhere across the team. I am pretty confident we can't afford both. I feel transfer funds are going to be needed to be generated to allow decent and meaningful transfers to be made. The way I look at is if we only had £60M to buy a players this window - would spending the lot on Onana the very best use of it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted June 14, 2023 Report Share Posted June 14, 2023 Why haven’t we brought anyone yet? Sack the board!!!! oh wait, do we even have a board? Palfy, Newty82 and plaidharper 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formby Posted June 14, 2023 Report Share Posted June 14, 2023 2 hours ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: I would say Pickford falls into that category Ideally, I wouldn't want to sell him either, but if the money is going to be this tight, I would rather we get two proven goalscorers (one wide, one central) than keep him. An okay keeper and two really good forwards is better than an excellent keeper and Maupay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted June 14, 2023 Report Share Posted June 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, Formby said: Ideally, I wouldn't want to sell him either, but if the money is going to be this tight, I would rather we get two proven goalscorers (one wide, one central) than keep him. An okay keeper and two really good forwards is better than an excellent keeper and Maupay. I agree on this, but Pickford isn’t going anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted June 14, 2023 Report Share Posted June 14, 2023 1 hour ago, RuffRob said: Obviously Maupay leaving for some sort of fee would be most welcome, £5M ish maybe and would say maybe the same for Keane. I hope we would sell Maupay for more than £5mil given that we bought him for £15mil with only 1 year left on his contract! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRob Posted June 14, 2023 Report Share Posted June 14, 2023 2 hours ago, Bailey said: I hope we would sell Maupay for more than £5mil given that we bought him for £15mil with only 1 year left on his contract! do you think he is worth more than £5M this summer? What we payed for players is not a great barometer for what we might sell for AlbanyNYToffee and Bailey 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted June 14, 2023 Report Share Posted June 14, 2023 3 hours ago, Formby said: Ideally, I wouldn't want to sell him either, but if the money is going to be this tight, I would rather we get two proven goalscorers (one wide, one central) than keep him. An okay keeper and two really good forwards is better than an excellent keeper and Maupay. Really good forwards carry a premium price tag, we aren’t getting two of them with any fee we would get for Pickford Even if we could I think an average keeper behind our shite defence would concede a lot more goals than two really good forwards supplied by our creative vacuum of a midfield could ever score Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted June 14, 2023 Report Share Posted June 14, 2023 Gutted Bellingham has gone to Real Madrid, really thought he was going to be first through the door! Goodison Glory, Matt, StevO and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted June 14, 2023 Report Share Posted June 14, 2023 15 minutes ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: Gutted Bellingham has gone to Real Madrid, really thought he was going to be first through the door! Don’t panic I’m sure he’s got a sister. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted June 14, 2023 Report Share Posted June 14, 2023 2 hours ago, RuffRob said: do you think he is worth more than £5M this summer? What we payed for players is not a great barometer for what we might sell for Not sure he is worth £5 based on what he looked like for us but hopefully someone can look past that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted June 14, 2023 Report Share Posted June 14, 2023 If we took £5m for Maupay it would show as a £10m loss, so financially we would be better off keeping him and maybe loaning him out to cover his wages. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted June 14, 2023 Report Share Posted June 14, 2023 3 hours ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: Gutted Bellingham has gone to Real Madrid, really thought he was going to be first through the door! He'd have been ours if we could have done business this month, no doubt about it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted June 25, 2023 Report Share Posted June 25, 2023 So far we have seen Mina, Coady, and Davies all involved with the 1st team, it’s looking like Gray and Onana may follow and Iwobi if he still refuses to sign a new contract, again all 1st team players. Then we should get our fee for Kean and Gomes should be sold and we may possibly get something for Gbamin, and I’m sure there will 1 or 2 more to exit so we should get a nice bit of money and a fair amount off the wage bill. Then we are in the hands of Moshiri and Kenwright that we are given the opportunity to reinvest it, and if so the hard bit begins buying the the right players, so good luck everyone we may need quite a lot of it this coming transfer window. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted June 25, 2023 Report Share Posted June 25, 2023 5 minutes ago, Palfy said: So far we have seen Mina, Coady, and Davies all involved with the 1st team, it’s looking like Gray and Onana may follow and Iwobi if he still refuses to sign a new contract, again all 1st team players. Then we should get our fee for Kean and Gomes should be sold and we may possibly get something for Gbamin, and I’m sure there will 1 or 2 more to exit so we should get a nice bit of money and a fair amount off the wage bill. Then we are in the hands of Moshiri and Kenwright that we are given the opportunity to reinvest it, and if so the hard bit begins buying the the right players, so good luck everyone we may need quite a lot of it this coming transfer window. We have already had the Keane money so unless we sell Onana or Pickford we won’t have a pot to piss in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 13 hours ago, Palfy said: So far we have seen Mina, Coady, and Davies all involved with the 1st team, it’s looking like Gray and Onana may follow and Iwobi if he still refuses to sign a new contract, again all 1st team players. Then we should get our fee for Kean and Gomes should be sold and we may possibly get something for Gbamin, and I’m sure there will 1 or 2 more to exit so we should get a nice bit of money and a fair amount off the wage bill. Then we are in the hands of Moshiri and Kenwright that we are given the opportunity to reinvest it, and if so the hard bit begins buying the the right players, so good luck everyone we may need quite a lot of it this coming transfer window. Highly doubt we'll be able sell Gbamin, it'll be more likely we loan him out for his last year and he leaves on a free next summer. Could be the same with Gomes, but there's a chance we can get a small fee for him. The wage bill will definitely be looking healthier, unless we then go fucking crazy on what we give to any incoming players. But I guess, I'm worrying over nothing when we've got the dream team of Moshiri, Kenshite and Thelwell on the job. Fosse Captain and Matt 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fosse Captain Posted June 27, 2023 Report Share Posted June 27, 2023 So plenty of people out the door or currently walking through it seems. The squad was thin and imbalanced before, now its just thin. So despite the financial problems, you could argue that the squad is in a good place. Deadwood gone (apart from a couple) so kind of a blank canvas. The reset point we all want. It will now go one of 2 ways We bring 10 or so players in (realistically that's what we need now) All are carefully thought out and part of a plan. They have the right age profile and most importantly improve the squad in terms of quality but also numbers and also options. Their wages reflect their 'reputation' too (eg unknown talent) and they even have resale value. Or We piss what little money we do have up the wall on absolute shite / premier league 'experience'. 29 year olds on 5 year contracts who've been shite for a while but they once had a few good games in 2019 ......... and nothing changes. The Everton Retirement Home in all its glory Most important Summer in many years, we have to get this right What's your money on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted June 27, 2023 Report Share Posted June 27, 2023 I would rather we brought in 3 or 4 quality players and tried to build the squad. Buying ten players would water down the quality. We may as well or just kept the players we had. We need to stop thinking short term and start looking at the longer picture. Take a few seasons to grow the squad with quality, and young potential. We have five or six decent players here who we need to add to. Bailey and Newty82 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted June 27, 2023 Report Share Posted June 27, 2023 I guess the strategy is a clear out and see what's left. Take it from there Sean and Thelwell. Fosse Captain and Shukes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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