marcus jones Posted September 11, 2011 Report Share Posted September 11, 2011 Good news this, think he will push Distin for a place after Xmas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted September 12, 2011 Report Share Posted September 12, 2011 Good news this, think he will push Distin for a place after Xmas? If Heitinga isn't pushing Distin for a place do you really think Duffy will be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcus jones Posted September 12, 2011 Report Share Posted September 12, 2011 If Heitinga isn't pushing Distin for a place do you really think Duffy will be? Heitinga will be down the road I'm afraid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markduff Posted September 12, 2011 Report Share Posted September 12, 2011 If Heitinga isn't pushing Distin for a place do you really think Duffy will be? romey,.... as a matter of interest, have you been to see a game that shane has played a full 90mins? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted September 13, 2011 Report Share Posted September 13, 2011 romey,.... as a matter of interest, have you been to see a game that shane has played a full 90mins? I think you've taken it as me not thinking Duffy is good enough for Everton, far from it. It's just Moyes is funny with his defenders, rightly or wrongly, and if a Dutch international can't get in then what chance does a kid have? I don't think Duffy will ever have a career at Everton while Moyes is here, but that's just my opinion and it's not because I think he's shite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted September 13, 2011 Report Share Posted September 13, 2011 true! plays in a world cup final then warms the bench of the smallest squad in the world!!! (or plays midfield) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcus jones Posted September 13, 2011 Report Share Posted September 13, 2011 does this not show that we have a strong first eleven ? No, it just shows that Moyes loves his favourites and will not drop them when they are playing poor, also because he has a fixation with playing a left and right footed central defenders, god knows why, Denis Irwin was right footed and played left back and he was ace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted September 13, 2011 Report Share Posted September 13, 2011 No, it just shows that Moyes loves his favourites and will not drop them when they are playing poor... Does the fact that he played Hibbo instead of Neville on Saturday not suggest otherwise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted September 13, 2011 Report Share Posted September 13, 2011 No, it just shows that Moyes loves his favourites and will not drop them when they are playing poor, also because he has a fixation with playing a left and right footed central defenders, god knows why, Denis Irwin was right footed and played left back and he was ace. It provides balance when the central defender steps into the left/right channel when that full back bombs forward. Also, it makes the defender more comfortable with the foot further away from the pressing forward when the two centre backs spread wide after the goalkeeper picks up a loose ball forward and prepares for a throw-out. If the centre-back is on the 'wrong' side then their natural instinct is to cut the ball back inside onto their stronger foot. Many of the mistakes leading to goals you see centre-backs make are down to this very tendency. On current form, Heitinga deserves to be starting, yes. But at the expense of Jagielka, not Distin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcus jones Posted September 13, 2011 Report Share Posted September 13, 2011 It provides balance when the central defender steps into the left/right channel when that full back bombs forward. Also, it makes the defender more comfortable with the foot further away from the pressing forward when the two centre backs spread wide after the goalkeeper picks up a loose ball forward and prepares for a throw-out. If the centre-back is on the 'wrong' side then their natural instinct is to cut the ball back inside onto their stronger foot. Many of the mistakes leading to goals you see centre-backs make are down to this very tendency. On current form, Heitinga deserves to be starting, yes. But at the expense of Jagielka, not Distin. Yeah I know, all pretty basic stuff said, you missed out its easier for a righty to pass a ball which is curving towards a full back running on etc...... anyway, I don't think it makes a difference to Jags. Hate to be picky but don't count on him to get the ball off Howard and start anything going forward, seems Felli is scared to ask for the ball off him coz it might just go anywhere! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcus jones Posted September 13, 2011 Report Share Posted September 13, 2011 Does the fact that he played Hibbo instead of Neville on Saturday not suggest otherwise? Horses for courses here, Moyes used him because being faster than Nev he can make sure no one gets beyond him, instead making the winger pass inside and so to a condensed area. That's the theory anyhow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted September 13, 2011 Report Share Posted September 13, 2011 Horses for courses here, Moyes used him because being faster than Nev he can make sure no one gets beyond him, instead making the winger pass inside and so to a condensed area. That's the theory anyhow. So you're saying he always plays his favourites, except for when he thinks it's better tactically to drop them ? Hmmm....I'll leave you to argue this one out with yourself . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcus jones Posted September 13, 2011 Report Share Posted September 13, 2011 So you're saying he always plays his favourites, except for when he thinks it's better tactically to drop them ? Hmmm....I'll leave you to argue this one out with yourself . Any bets Hetinga will play against Bolton for eg? Yes he does NORMALLY play his favourites, the ''Untouchables'' if you will, can't see why though, perhaps too rigid in his thinking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted September 13, 2011 Report Share Posted September 13, 2011 Any bets Hetinga will play against Bolton for eg? Yes he does NORMALLY play his favourites, the ''Untouchables'' if you will, can't see why though, perhaps too rigid in his thinking? in midfield? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted September 14, 2011 Report Share Posted September 14, 2011 does this not show that we have a strong first eleven ? id say we have a strong seven or eight. but id like to see johnny play more at the back. he was immense when he got a run of games there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluemist Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 id say we have a strong seven or eight. but id like to see johnny play more at the back. he was immense when he got a run of games there. I agree, best cb we have! in my humble opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markduff Posted September 26, 2011 Report Share Posted September 26, 2011 (edited) delighted shane is staying on at scunthorpe.... http://www.scunthorp...2462664,00.html ......and a call up to play in the under 21s for his country on the 11th oct...http://www.scunthorp...2463591,00.html! Edited September 26, 2011 by markduff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinalaff Posted September 26, 2011 Report Share Posted September 26, 2011 Great news Mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted September 26, 2011 Report Share Posted September 26, 2011 great news mate, pass on our best wishes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markduff Posted October 3, 2011 Report Share Posted October 3, 2011 takin from a match report from scunthorpes 2-1 win on saturday..... Star Player Shane Duffy: The Iron might have scored twice, and whilst you had to say everyone played well - the centre halves deserve particular credit. Especially Duffy, who at just 19 belies his 6ft 4 frame, and showed the footballing world, just how much of a man he was. Blocks and headers galore - he dealt with absolutely everything the incredibly physical and direct Boro had to throw at him. And his off the line clearance at the end was a piece of positioning, and anticipatory, brilliance from him. He kept it alive throughout, and saved the day at the end. An absolutely perfect performance from the defender. Can we keep him David? Please!? Read more: http://www.scunthorpe.vitalfootball.co.uk/matchrep.asp?a=257649#ixzz1ZkSQPmrZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 3, 2011 Report Share Posted October 3, 2011 good on him! Cant wait to see him a regular in blue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 At the rate Jag's going, it'll be sooner rather than later! The experience he's getting will be good for him, I really hope he makes it at Everton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 Hate to break the mood but isn't that Shane making a bit of a pig's ear of it for Stevenage's goal (about 1.20 in) . http://news.bbc.co.u...ll/15144344.stm Saved their arses at the end though . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codders78 Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 What could he have done differently? Not much I reckon the Stevenage fella was right there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 What could he have done differently? Not much I reckon the Stevenage fella was right there Poor touch with his chest....that's why he puts his head in his hands when the goal goes in and acknowledges his mistake to another defender with a hand gesture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noddy Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 Better he makes those mistakes there than at Everton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 Better he makes those mistakes there than at Everton. It's a small criticism Noddy....and he mans up to it...and he makes amends. That'll do for me . Shame they lost tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noddy Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 Aw yeah. Don't get me wrong, I'm not naive enough to think that Shane never makes mistakes. Every player makes them, it's how they respond to it that matters (as long as they don't lose!). I'm just glad he's playing now (same with Baxter and Garbutt) - from Everton's point of view, that's what is necessary for some players' development. 6 games in just over a month, that's the first time he's had that many games in a while. Off with the U21s now, hopefully he's given Noel King reason to start him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codders78 Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 Poor touch with his chest....that's why he puts his head in his hands when the goal goes in and acknowledges his mistake to another defender with a hand gesture. To a point yes but he had to take the touch and the tackle came in almost immediately. Its all a learning curve and maybe with a bit more experience would have cleared it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markduff Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 photo from saturdays game....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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