Shukes Posted April 5, 2014 Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 His point about Baines ball retention is something that is underrated at times, and maybe Rm has something there. Baines always seems to hold the ball comfortably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted April 5, 2014 Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 Baines is in the the same size category as iniesta, xavi, arteta, nasri, carzola. Etc etc. Play the ball on the deck on the flanks the what's the problem? He has technical ability, brains, fitness.... He can do that role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodisonRoad Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 Some of the passes baines has been playing today is why Martinez has said what he did. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 Some of the passes baines has been playing today is why Martinez has said what he did. i completely agree and thought the exact same thing while watching the game! that first goal pass was amazing and very lahm like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 He still has a good few years as our marauding left back yet! Immense today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 i also really like when he got the captain's band when osman came off how he took the charge. when arteta elbowed barkley, he went straight at him and let him have it which then led to arteta getting a yellow. that's how you stick up for your team as a captain! Bailey and GoodisonRoad 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 i also really like when he got the captain's band when osman came off how he took the charge. when arteta elbowed barkley, he went straight at him and let him have it which then led to arteta getting a yellow. that's how you stick up for your team as a captain! About time we had someone willing to do that. Jags doesn't stand up for his team mates enough, IMO. markjazzbassist, Bailey and GoodisonRoad 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue 250 Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 Great game today from Baines, possible new captain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 i also really like when he got the captain's band when osman came off how he took the charge. when arteta elbowed barkley, he went straight at him and let him have it which then led to arteta getting a yellow. that's how you stick up for your team as a captain!saw him go to Arteta after the game, kind of apologetic, and I think I lip-read him sayin something like "I hear what you're saying but I'm the Captain and I will always defend Ross and the team". I smiled a lot there. As for the DCM role, it makes sense if were talking when he's 32-ish (Oviedo would be well blooded and around 25), which also shows that RM is looking way into the future. For the next 2-3 years though, let's just enjoy him destroying the left flank.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted April 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2014 http://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/leighton-baines-talentspotter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted April 9, 2014 Report Share Posted April 9, 2014 You've crushed me. As a boy I supported...Liverpool. As a local lad I used to watch from the Kop when Robbie Fowler was making his name. I started out at Liverpool's Centre of Excellence and although it was disappointing when nothing came of it, I was lucky that both Wigan and Wolves wanted to sign me.Read more at http://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/leighton-baines-talentspotter#hGKVSOXV5Ha6blS4.99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted April 9, 2014 Report Share Posted April 9, 2014 Don't care really, he came to his senses eventually markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYBlue Posted April 18, 2014 Report Share Posted April 18, 2014 Comments from Baines on the differences between Moyes and Martinez: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2607842/Leighton-Baines-says-Roberto-Martinez-thrown-shackles-Everton-ahead-David-Moyes-return.html markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NyarkosLeftToe Posted April 18, 2014 Report Share Posted April 18, 2014 Love Bainesy markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted April 19, 2014 Report Share Posted April 19, 2014 http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/apr/18/leighton-baines-everton-england-david-moyes-roberto-martinez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted May 3, 2014 Report Share Posted May 3, 2014 (edited) http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/everton/10805357/Leighton-Baines-Why-I-stayed-at-Everton-but-feel-gutted-for-David-Moyes-after-Manchester-United-sack.html It is with reluctance that Leighton Baines finds himself cast as the poster boy for those who want reassurance that not all footballers are money grabbing, self-serving egomaniacs. There is a perception that if the Everton and England left-back was more practised in the art of agitation, he would have been aManchester United player several years ago, but those old-fashioned values of loyalty, duty and being an all-round good egg kept him on Merseyside. The halo does not sit comfortably. Speaking in detail for the first time about United's failed attempt to sign him, Baines says his decision to stay at Everton was more complicated than unquestioningly pledging his future to his boyhood team. "I sat on the fence and saw how the thing played out," Baines says. "From this end, you might get credit for turning someone down that you probably don't deserve. The whole thing in the summer was letting things unfold. I could have signed a contract at any time in the summer and put it all to bed. "It was a case of letting the business side of it get conducted, knowing you couldn't lose. The perspective was I could only win from this situation. "I don't want to keep playing that tune of being humble. You just appreciate where you are. It was stressful because I didn't know which way it was going to play out. You just try to conduct yourself in the proper manner as much as you can. There is always that. That is a factor throughout. "I had the important conversations myself and didn't have someone in there for me feeding back what was happening. I spoke with the manager, I spoke with the chairman and we had private conversations. They kept me in the loop all along. I just let them deal with it and I wanted to be kept informed. I guess you never know if you're doing the right thing or not but at the time, it's not your decision as a player to make those calls." Whether Baines accepts applause or not, the fact he never asked for a transfer or issued public ultimatums is an admirable distinction from many of his peers. Marouane Fellaini handed in a transfer request to ensure he left Everton for Manchester United, and one only had to witness the different exit strategies of Gareth Bale and Luis Suárez – with varying degrees of success. There is another shrug. "Maybe it was just how I was brought up," says Baines. "If I was playing for a foreign club I may have acted differently but I think there is a different level of respect." There has been no cause for regret since. What attracted Baines to United was the Champions League, annual title bids and a manager he admired. All have gone, Baines's penalty in David Moyes's final game indicative of how fate conspired against the former Everton coach. "There are a lot of lads here who were long-serving under him. We all feel the same, we are a bit gutted for him," says Baines. "There are personal relationships there – you don't want to see anyone having a hard time. It's hard to know what to say but we know from working with him that he is a top manager. He has to do what is right for him now whether that's coming back straight away or having a little bit of time. The lads here who worked with him know he is a top manager. "It's really hard. The important thing is the start. When you go in everyone is sussing each other out and from both sides. If you start well as a player when a new manager comes in the first impressions are positive. It can also work the other way." While Moyes sank, his successor Roberto Martínez has thrived at Goodison. There is still a top-four chance, albeit slim, heading into Saturday's meeting with Manchester City, although Baines recalls the early months when no one was certain that the Spanish coach's methods would work. "We started with a few draws and everyone was kind of sitting on the fence, and then we beat Chelsea and went on a bit of a run. That game was massive," Baines says. "Even if you look back, we nearly conceded a ridiculous goal trying to play out of defence. What if that had of gone in and you lose the game because of it? It was the tipping point. If we had lost maybe people would have started to want what they had before. But we went on a run. "They are fine lines. Beating Chelsea gave us the lift and made us kick on. We were trying to buy into all the new ideas and concepts but it's the same with everyone. It's a results-based business and until you start getting results, you're not going to buy into it. I guess over there [Manchester United] they never quite got going and, if they had, they would probably have been flying. "I can only be happy with the way we are going along now and the position we are in, still in with a fighting chance of getting Champions League football. We have our highest Premier League points tally in a season and that under the new manager, for a first season, is extremely positive going. The next step is to see what we can do about strengthening. I'm sure the manager is looking at that." One of Martínez's plans is to redeploy Baines as a central midfielder, enabling him to follow the journey of Bayern Munich's Philipp Lahm from full-back to midfield. Baines accompanied his manager on a scouting mission when Bayern played United at Old Trafford. "No pressure!" Baines jokes. "The lads have been talking about it and I've been getting a bit of stick. I'm teacher's pet now. I've never heard of it happening before but it was good to see the game live and for him to show the things that they do and the similarities of what he wants us to do. "I'll be excited to give it a go. I know it sounds stupid but for a few years we used to play a 'young versus old' game on a Friday and that was my position. Tim Howard was saying the other day, 'I hope you do play there because I called it two years ago'. Steve Round [former Moyes assistant] had mentioned it before so it wasn't out of nowhere but I wouldn't expect to be playing there. "Roberto is such a contrast to what we had before, the way he wants us to play and the fact he won't compromise on it. He wants you to do what he wants and if he sees it's not really happening, he's not going to go, 'right we will play long'. We could play good stuff before but I think now there is a real tactical meaning to everything. "There are certain triggers within the system that someone takes up a certain position knowing that another guy is going to see that trigger, and he will go into a different position himself. It is all very specific and thought out and that's the difference." Victory over City will secure Everton's European place but whatever the outcome the impact on the title race, for Liverpool as much as City, has dominated the pre-match agenda. Baines says the players are thinking only of winning. "Loads of people have obviously mentioned that potential scenario [of helping Liverpool] but when the game comes around we will want to win the game, pure and simple," he says. "You understand the fans' side of the rivalry but you shouldn't judge yourself on others' success or failure. I think Liverpool not winning the league doesn't make us any better." Edited May 3, 2014 by tenaciousj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted May 3, 2014 Report Share Posted May 3, 2014 Been nothing more than a good player this season for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted May 3, 2014 Report Share Posted May 3, 2014 I think he's an underrated player. Much of what he does in a game goes un noticed. His ball renationalisation and calmness helps the team immensely. And good to read an article where there is no bullshit. Really nice guy and a great player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted May 3, 2014 Report Share Posted May 3, 2014 I think he's an underrated player. Much of what he does in a game goes un noticed. His ball renationalisation and calmness helps the team immensely. And good to read an article where there is no bullshit. Really nice guy and a great player. He's not underrated he just hasn't been our main outlet this season. Progression all over the pitch. I don't think he's stood out this season though. Oviedo has Quinn31 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JoeQuince Posted May 3, 2014 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 3, 2014 He's not underrated he just hasn't been our main outlet this season. Progression all over the pitch. I don't think he's stood out this season though. Oviedo has Oviedo stuck out because he exceeded expectations and played much better than we could have hoped in Baines' absence. He wasn't better than Baines. They are just different types of players. I'm not trashing Bryan's performances. I have the guy's name on my shirt. I just think it's a case of him coming in, us expecting to lose a few and for our left side to suffer without Baines, except we won a few and didn't skip a beat. Quinn31, Sibdane, Ant1979 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted May 5, 2014 Report Share Posted May 5, 2014 I'm hoping his transition to central midfielder will happen sooner rather than later. He would be well suited there, and it would open the door for Bryan Oviedo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ant1979 Posted May 5, 2014 Report Share Posted May 5, 2014 I'm hoping his transition to central midfielder will happen sooner rather than later. He would be well suited there, and it would open the door for Bryan Oviedo. I would guess it will be tested out in pre-season, it will be interesting to see how it goes! Roberto must feel it's a goer or he wouldn't have mentioned it to the press. I suppose Bryan as first choice LB and Baines in midfield would explain us being linked with Robertson, firstly as Oviedo's back up then see who claims the position as their own long term? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted May 5, 2014 Report Share Posted May 5, 2014 Don't like baines in midfield he's been tried a few times and hasn't done well. on the wing yes, but this is a sitting, central position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 5, 2014 Report Share Posted May 5, 2014 I still think it's crazy but we shall see. MC11 and Matt 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted May 5, 2014 Report Share Posted May 5, 2014 Was meant to give Rom green there. I agree I'm still baffled by it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted May 16, 2014 Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 (edited) Baines commenting on some tweets about himself. http://sport.bt.com/video-01363814401986?videoid=3509027322001&videotitle=Leighton%20Baines%20takes%20on%20~!mean%20tweets~! Edited May 16, 2014 by Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted May 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 http://m.premierleague.com/en-gb/news/article.team-of-the-season-2013-14-poll.html Vote for Baines! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 22, 2014 Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/england/10847850/World-Cup-2014-Left-back-Leighton-Baines-joins-manager-Roy-Hodgsons-book-club-as-England-prepare.html Nice WC-related interview. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vranny Posted May 24, 2014 Report Share Posted May 24, 2014 Bringing back an old debate here, but I'd be really curious to see how Baines would go in the centre of midfield. Some of his greatest strengths are his engine, ball retention and incisive passing, the later of which is rarely allowed to be displayed from left-back. It'd also allow him to show off his long range shooting a lot more, which is another skill of his starved from playing out wide. At the same time the only skill of his that would conceivably diminish from playing centrally would be Leighton's mostly excellent crossing ability, which has seen a decline in frequency under Martinez anyway. Also I feel like one of the main concerns many people would have with playing Baines as a DM would be his lack of stature in the middle of the park. One thing to consider is that he is actually the same/similar height to other masterful defensive midfielders such as Lahm, Edgar Davids and Makelele himself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted May 24, 2014 Report Share Posted May 24, 2014 I don't see it but hey I've never seen him in there so who nows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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