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Jesus christ.

 

Can't deny the ambition.

 

Suppose when you even it out, how much would you say Sandro was worth? £10m? So think of Pickfords price as £25m...

 

Clutching straws I know, but an accumulative figure of total spends should be a better indication as to whether the purchases are 'worth' it.

 

Edit: Lets not be kid by the full price tag though. That's IF he/Everton meet certain clauses/performance related bonuses. The deal COULD be £15m plus bonuses equaling £30m?

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Sorry but I trust their judgement more than yours.

Fair enough :)

 

To be honest, it's more the market that's inflating the price which is the issue. No way is he worth near that in terms of ability (yet, and from what I've seen), and even if it's £15-18m plus add-ons as rumoured, I don't see the gulf in quality to justify spending that much.

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We're probably going to have to overpay for a few of our targets really. Just got to hope that they work out.

 

Plus, if it does work out with Pickford that's our keeper sorted for over a decade.

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We're probably going to have to overpay for a few of our targets really. Just got to hope that they work out.

 

Plus, if it does work out with Pickford that's our keeper sorted for over a decade.

Mostly agree, but I'll interested to see how much patience fans have with the lad.

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"we need to pull our finger out and hurry up and sign our targets." "oh we are paying too much for them." No winning with some people. Who's assed how much we are paying, we aren't poor anymore so I don't get why people get so jumped up about prices. £30m could turn out to be a steal for this lad, don't forget its not all upfront, usually spread out, certain things need to be met.

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Pretty much what Aaron is saying for me.

 

We will be getting quoted daft prices for players...again!

 

Clubs, agents and players know about Moshiri and the ambition...they'll want their kings ransom.

 

If people at the club believe this guy is the next answer...so be it. No point bring butt hurt over Robles.

 

Let's get the ball rolling and get our targets in.

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Rumour is its £21m up front, rest in add on's and Dowell and Kenny on loan.

 

Great deal IMO. Gets our lads Championship football (which will aid us in the long run) and £20m is closer to the figure he's worth at present.

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The lad is class, current rumour is £18 up front and the rest are performance / career related add ons which I think is far as it suits both parties. If it doesn't work our we only pay him £18mil (which is a fair price imo) and if it does we end up with a top notch English keeper worth more than double that.

 

Please just don't expect him to come in and be faultless!

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Good goalkeepers are like rocking horse shit.

 

+1 to this. When there's an exceptional goalkeeping prospect available, you get him. People on other boards are saying "Butland is better" (I disagree), but he's at a Premier League club and he isn't for sale. Others are saying "City got that amazing keeper who nobody had heard of until a week ago but he has a cool-sounding foreign name so must be amazing". With keepers from other leagues (especially Portugal, a low level) you're taking a big risk.

 

I'm really happy with this. One position taken care of hopefully for the next 10 years. Plus, we have an English defense, and hopefully will for some time to come given the talent in it, so that'll help with communication.

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Hope we get this done quickly. Arguably this is the most important position to get sorted - let him have as much time as possible to build a relationship with the defence.

Well he wont sign and have a medical until after he's done with the U21's so I expect this to drag a bit

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Hope we get this done quickly. Arguably this is the most important position to get sorted - let him have as much time as possible to build a relationship with the defence.

 

Well he wont sign and have a medical until after he's done with the U21's so I expect this to drag a bit

 

Just in time for someone else to pop up!

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You love him. We get it :P

 

I'm not arguing that it's not a lot of money, but we do need better than Joel or Stek.

It's not that. I know I rate him, but I'm not blinded by it.

 

Fact is, unless someone has watched both week in, week out, we'll never really know. All I'm saying is that they're both young keepers with potential that require a lot of game time to develop. One is on our books, one is going to cost a lot of money, taking budget away from other positions. My concern is that £20-30m isn't going to give a massive jump in quality, and that the money could be better spent reinforcing the defensive line (which is a must anyway) so the current keeper has less work to do.

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It's not that. I know I rate him, but I'm not blinded by it.

 

Fact is, unless someone has watched both week in, week out, we'll never really know. All I'm saying is that they're both young keepers with potential that require a lot of game time to develop. One is on our books, one is going to cost a lot of money, taking budget away from other positions. My concern is that £20-30m isn't going to give a massive jump in quality, and that the money could be better spent reinforcing the defensive line (which is a must anyway) so the current keeper has less work to do.

We have scouts who will have watched him week in, week out once he was identified as a player we wanted. And the fact is, as much as you or I rate Joel, our manager, the one that picks the team, does not, and that is the be all and end all here.

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I thought his kicking looked awful. However I've only seen him a handful of matches.

 

Whether you agree with the signing or not, hopefully at least we have 1 position sorted for next season.

 

Wonder if Joel will move on Now.

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It's not that. I know I rate him, but I'm not blinded by it.

 

Fact is, unless someone has watched both week in, week out, we'll never really know. All I'm saying is that they're both young keepers with potential that require a lot of game time to develop. One is on our books, one is going to cost a lot of money, taking budget away from other positions. My concern is that £20-30m isn't going to give a massive jump in quality, and that the money could be better spent reinforcing the defensive line (which is a must anyway) so the current keeper has less work to do.

 

 

We have scouts who will have watched him week in, week out once he was identified as a player we wanted. And the fact is, as much as you or I rate Joel, our manager, the one that picks the team, does not, and that is the be all and end all here.

 

 

This. And it's also not my (or your) money. Manager wants him, he pays what he thinks he's worth.

 

Edit: Even if I do think its too much.

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It's not that. I know I rate him, but I'm not blinded by it.

 

Fact is, unless someone has watched both week in, week out, we'll never really know. All I'm saying is that they're both young keepers with potential that require a lot of game time to develop. One is on our books, one is going to cost a lot of money, taking budget away from other positions. My concern is that £20-30m isn't going to give a massive jump in quality, and that the money could be better spent reinforcing the defensive line (which is a must anyway) so the current keeper has less work to do.

 

I like him, but the problem with Joel is that you can guarantee he is going to make pretty basic mistakes and cost us goals. He will make some great saves as well that I wouldn't expect every keeper in the league to make but he makes more mistakes that lead to goals then brilliant saves that others couldn't make. He has had enough games now to really assess him. He is much better than Stek, streets better but from what I have seen of Pickford he is already at least as good as Joel, has half a season of Premier League footy under his belt and will only get better. He is commanding and a leader as well, plus he is English which will puts an extra few quid on his head and worth to your team.

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We have scouts who will have watched him week in, week out once he was identified as a player we wanted. And the fact is, as much as you or I rate Joel, our manager, the one that picks the team, does not, and that is the be all and end all here.

Oh I know, just frustrating.

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I like him, but the problem with Joel is that you can guarantee he is going to make pretty basic mistakes and cost us goals. He will make some great saves as well that I wouldn't expect every keeper in the league to make but he makes more mistakes that lead to goals then brilliant saves that others couldn't make. He has had enough games now to really assess him. He is much better than Stek, streets better but from what I have seen of Pickford he is already at least as good as Joel, has half a season of Premier League footy under his belt and will only get better. He is commanding and a leader as well, plus he is English which will puts an extra few quid on his head and worth to your team.

All keepers do though, even the best!

 

£30m for at least as good is a fuckton of cash for little/no improvement

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