duncanmckenzieismagic Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 He's just a player, a bang average one too. It's just that he courts a lot of hype. He is the best bang average forward we've had in a generation though Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 Most people thought the world was flat Steve, what's your point? I would actually argue that missing word is denial. He is the most defended player I've known. I've been here before, I called Michael Owen for what he was and was ridiculed. I said without pace he is average at best. Of course that was flamed, till people actually rewalised it was true. You're starting to come across as a bloke who thinks because he sunk a few pens infront of the kop has golden eye for spotting striking talent. He had a tough season in the EPL and got found out for his weaknesses - we as a team didnt help him and play to his strengths but he is guilty of under performing and has warranted criticism. Prem is the toughest league, and it will be interesting to see how Kanes second season goes. But Lukaku also won golden boot in a European tournament, we have been screaming for a goal scorer for years, we get one and now people constantly try and tear him apat. Does my head in no end. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 (edited) You're starting to come across as a bloke who thinks because he sunk a few pens infront of the kop has golden eye for spotting striking talent. He had a tough season in the EPL and got found out for his weaknesses - we as a team didnt help him and play to his strengths but he is guilty of under performing and has warranted criticism. Prem is the toughest league, and it will be interesting to see how Kanes second season goes. But Lukaku also won golden boot in a European tournament, we have been screaming for a goal scorer for years, we get one and now people constantly try and tear him apat. Does my head in no end. Of course it's all because I scored a few pens at the kop end.... Actually it isn't , that comment whilst factually correct has no bearing whatsoever on what I think of lukaku. Talking shit there btay. I judge strikers, the way I judge footballers. Never more has there been a need to be two footed, instant control, and able to look after the ball. Teams set up to counter attack, the wait for players to lose the ball. Trust me that lad loses the ball more than any player I've seen play up front for us. Defenders get right to him as they know his control is shite, they show him to his right foot. You say weaknesses? Pretty glaring IMO Edited June 21, 2015 by Hafnia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 He is the best bang average forward we've had in a generation though Disagree, Rooney, saha and yak were better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 Of course it's all because I scored a few pens at the kop end.... Actually it isn't , that comment whilst factually correct has no bearing whatsoever on what I think of lukaku. Talking shit there btay. I can just imagine David Brent saying this - brilliant! ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 (edited) I can just imagine David Brent saying this - brilliant! ?I think you need to read it again. Factually correct is the fact I scored a few pens. That is the fact. The rest is opinion. Edited June 21, 2015 by Hafnia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 I think you need to read it again. Factually correct is the fact I scored a few pens. That is the fact. The rest is opinion. That's what's Brent about it... just how it's phrased. Tickled me anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 Rome romelu, rome romelu, rome romelu, romelu lukaku!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 For £28m the lad needs to be doing a lot more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 Rooney left 11 years ago so I didn't really have him in mind Saha was never fit enough but certainly had the talent , and the touch The Yak had a great first season but was woeful after that. In fact it's probably the only time I've ever been happy to see an Everton player pick up a long term injury , he was that shite Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 Ok Haf, if Rom gets 20 league goals next season, will you drop this argument with everyone else on the board and admit to being wrong about him? Win win situation. If he's as bad as you think then you'll never have to admit being wrong. If he scores 20 league goals then we have a great striker on our hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted June 22, 2015 Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 Ok Haf, if Rom gets 20 league goals next season, will you drop this argument with everyone else on the board and admit to being wrong about him? Win win situation. If he's as bad as you think then you'll never have to admit being wrong. If he scores 20 league goals then we have a great striker on our hands. Would it count if 8 of them were on the road to winning the FA Cup? That would be only 12 league goals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted June 22, 2015 Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 Ok Haf, if Rom gets 20 league goals next season, will you drop this argument with everyone else on the board and admit to being wrong about him? Win win situation. If he's as bad as you think then you'll never have to admit being wrong. If he scores 20 league goals then we have a great striker on our hands. If I thought he could get 20 league goals then I wouldn't have any complaints. He won't, but ok yeah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted June 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 Watch him "only" get 19 now. Btay, Toffee_in_LA and Matt 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted June 22, 2015 Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 Watch him "only" get 19 now. Well the most league goals scored in recent years is 15 (prior in 1996 when Kanchelskis scored 16). As i've said before its kinda embarrassing. On average 8-10 players score 15 or more in a season. Top prem goalscorers and their highest tally. 15 - Lukaku - Yakubu 13 - Saha 12 - Campbell 11 - Fellaini, AJ, Cahill, Big Dunc, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted June 22, 2015 Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 Second highest goal scorer in the league in one season for us since the Prem began. Good work for a kid! Toffee_in_LA, markjazzbassist, Matt and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted June 22, 2015 Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 (edited) The situation here is Lukaku's all round game is 'meh'. Joint highest goalscorer whilst cost double what Yakubu cost. Could the £28m have been spent on on all round better striker? Most certainly. The only way I look at it is "Lukaku" as a brand will hold value. So we may have to cut our losses at some point and get the money back. Because right now he isn't looking anywhere near that price tag. 10 goals in the league for a £28m striker isn't good enough. Edited June 22, 2015 by MC11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted June 22, 2015 Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 Could the £28m have been spent on on all round better striker? Most certainly. Who would you suggest we bought? This goes for Haf as well (it's not to stir) i'm just interested to know. In August 2014, the board said, "You have £28m to spend on a striker, go out and buy someone for us", who would you have bought? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted June 22, 2015 Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 Second highest goal scorer in the league in one season for us since the Prem began. Good work for a kid! To put into context Yak scored 15 in 29 in a season where we scored 55 goals. Rom scored 15 in 31 in a season where we scored 61 goals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted June 22, 2015 Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 Who would you suggest we bought? This goes for Haf as well (it's not to stir) i'm just interested to know. In August 2014, the board said, "You have £28m to spend on a striker, go out and buy someone for us", who would you have bought? I still say it now, Wilfried Bony £20m at the time would have triggered release clause. I would have had Welbeck ahead of him also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted June 22, 2015 Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 (edited) I still say it now, Wilfried Bony £20m at the time would have triggered release clause. I would have had Welbeck ahead of him also. I think he'd have been a great addition in fairness, but that summer it would have been a straight race between us and City. Realistically, I think we'd have known the outcome. Do you think he would he have joined Everton from Swansea if reported interest was coming in from City? Welbeck's scored 4 PL goals so far. Albeit he cost £10m less. Definitely more realistic option though. Edited June 22, 2015 by tenaciousj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted June 22, 2015 Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 Who would you suggest we bought? This goes for Haf as well (it's not to stir) i'm just interested to know. In August 2014, the board said, "You have £28m to spend on a striker, go out and buy someone for us", who would you have bought? There is nobody, not that would have any resale value anyway which is absolutely a must when a club like us pisses 28 million up the wall (not up front but still) People were mentioning Wellbeck, after a semi decent side he's done absolutely fuck all for a much more free scoring team than us with much better players around, Bony maybe but no resale from him and he was only as proven as Lukaku was. CharlieAustin, Ings? Nobody else would probably ofcome on our wages to us I don't think. Lukaku will come good I have no doubt about that. We will also get our money back off him regardless of how he does. Matt and holystove 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted June 22, 2015 Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 There is nobody, not that would have any resale value anyway which is absolutely a must when a club like us pisses 28 million up the wall (not up front but still) People were mentioning Wellbeck, after a semi decent side he's done absolutely fuck all for a much more free scoring team than us with much better players around, Bony maybe but no resale from him and he was only as proven as Lukaku was. CharlieAustin, Ings? Nobody else would probably ofcome on our wages to us I don't think. Lukaku will come good I have no doubt about that. We will also get our money back off him regardless of how he does. voice of reason. thank you. spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted June 22, 2015 Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 (edited) Who would you suggest we bought? This goes for Haf as well (it's not to stir) i'm just interested to know. In August 2014, the board said, "You have £28m to spend on a striker, go out and buy someone for us", who would you have bought? In January 2011, Suárez transferred to Liverpool for €26.5 million (£22.8 million). I know this was a few years ago but this makes the (£25m) fee for Lukaku look like a joke, there are plenty of better strikers out there if you search for them. The mistake was to buy from another English club ,they are always way over priced. Edited June 22, 2015 by Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted June 22, 2015 Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 I think he'd have been a great addition in fairness, but that summer it would have been a straight race between us and City. Realistically, I think we'd have known the outcome. Do you think he would he have joined Everton from Swansea if reported interest was coming in from City? Welbeck's scored 4 PL goals so far. Albeit he cost £10m less. Definitely more realistic option though. We bought Rom before Bony signed his contract with Swansea that enabled them to get more than the £20m, I actually think we could have got him. Welbeck is just one unlucky lad, because hw is such a willing runner he is used out wide, Giroud is a better finisher, but I honestly believe with extended games centrally Welbeck would flourish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted June 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 In January 2011, Suárez transferred to Liverpool for 26.5 million (£22.8 million). I know this was a few years ago but this makes the (£25m) fee for Lukaku look like a joke, there are plenty of better strikers out there if you search for them. The mistake was to buy English, they are always way over priced. Lukaku's Belgian? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted June 22, 2015 Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 (edited) Yeah i already edited it Mark. meant English club. Edited June 22, 2015 by Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted June 22, 2015 Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 In January 2011, Suárez transferred to Liverpool for 26.5 million (£22.8 million). I know this was a few years ago but this makes the (£25m) fee for Lukaku look like a joke, there are plenty of better strikers out there if you search for them. The mistake was to buy from another English club ,they are always way over priced. So who would you have taken instead then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted June 22, 2015 Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 We bought Rom before Bony signed his contract with Swansea that enabled them to get more than the £20m, I actually think we could have got him. Welbeck is just one unlucky lad, because hw is such a willing runner he is used out wide, Giroud is a better finisher, but I honestly believe with extended games centrally Welbeck would flourish. Our best opportunity to sign Bony was pre-Swansea IMO. After that and his great first season, we were already out of the running. Bill - Who, as of last summer, would you have taken for £28m. Not years gone. Just last summer. What were the options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted June 22, 2015 Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 (edited) In January 2011, Suárez transferred to Liverpool for €26.5 million (£22.8 million). I know this was a few years ago but this makes the (£25m) fee for Lukaku look like a joke, there are plenty of better strikers out there if you search for them. The mistake was to buy from another English club ,they are always way over priced. But £24m for Soldado looks like a joke. £35m for Andy Carroll looks like a joke. £33m for Robinho looks like a joke. Even players with incredible records, may cost you millions (Torres - £50m, Schevchenko £30m) and even that's not a guarantee of how a player will perform at the new club. Those two were absolute dead certs to carry on their credentials. It just so happened not to. They were finished articles and flopped. We have an unfinished one, who's heavily critisised. Until you pay it, how do you know if they're worth the money? Suarez did well in Holland, not that brilliant, he became a MUCH better player at Liverpool. Without doubt. He was worth (£23m) that, back then. Alfonso Alves came from Holland, scored a goal a game....turned out he just liked pies too much. Edited June 22, 2015 by tenaciousj holystove, duncanmckenzieismagic, Matt and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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