Romey 1878 Posted November 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 Oh stop it, Rom, you're giving me hope when I really don't want any because it's still extremely unlikely! We'd have to finish third to make this happen (I don't think we'd get through the qualifying game to actually reach the CL with finishing fourth), and that would be hard for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted November 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 http://www.football365.com/everton/9049533/Lukaku-handed-in-transfer-request- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted November 30, 2013 Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 IF, massive IF, we got fourth place, and qualified, would everyone be happy if we spent all the money to get Rom on a permenant deal? Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted November 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 IF, massive IF, we got fourth place, and qualified, would everyone be happy if we spent all the money to get Rom on a permenant deal? Only if we didn't sell anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingsRoadBlue Posted November 30, 2013 Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 http://www.football365.com/everton/9049533/Lukaku-handed-in-transfer-request- that's rubbish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted November 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 Quiet game from him today but still got on the scoresheet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 the flick on thing was true again yesterday..he even missed some when unchallenged...need to play it to his feet and let him use his strength havin a quiet game and still scoring though is a sign of a quality striker Sibdane, Romey 1878 and StevO 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 Thought he had an excellent game myself. His link up play and movement were really good. He might have fucked up occasionally and not won every duel but he puts in a great shift every game and does a lot of underrated work. He could have bagged a hat-trick too today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 the flick on thing was true again yesterday..he even missed some when unchallenged...need to play it to his feet and let him use his strength havin a quiet game and still scoring though is a sign of a quality striker I noticed it too today. But he scored three goals in two games where I think he's looked average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 IF, massive IF, we got fourth place, and qualified, would everyone be happy if we spent all the money to get Rom on a permenant deal? Absolutely. Providing we can seal this second season loan for Delou then I believe Martinez has the right attitute to help everton exceed expoectiations in the CL. If we lose him, we will struggle next season without a proven striker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 Lukaku as much as I love him isn't the only striker in the world. The way we are playing chances will keep coming whoever is up front. I'm sure Roberto has someone lined up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 Apart from jelly lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted December 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/evertons-romelu-lukaku-wont-chelsea-6360417? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 You're two of my favourite posters here, and I agree with the general point you're both making (that these boys are raw and need time to develop and become truly top players). Matt is also correct that Drogba was a late bloomer. But there's something very perplexing going on here too. First, there's the implication that Lukaku has a long way to go to be as good as Drogba, and this point is argued by comparing Barkley to Zidane. This is flawed logic because Lukaku is actually better than Drogba was at 20, and it's very realistic that he may go on to surpass Drogba's achievements in the game, and be considered a better player - not guaranteed, but it's a possibility. On the other hand, Barkley will never ever be fit to lace Zidane's boots: I don't mean that as a slight on Barkley, he's a very exciting young talent and has a chance of being a very top player, but we're talking about Zinedine Zidane here - he's considered the best player of his generation alongside Ronaldo and many people consider him a top ten player of all-time. Barkley won't ever be that good, or anywhere near it. He might become world-class but Zidane is all-time great class. Zidane belongs to a tier which none of Drogba, Lukaku or Barkley will ever get near. There's also the other issue that Lukaku is similar to a young Drogba and will probably develop his game to the point where he will closely emulate Drogba's style. Barkley on the other hand isn't really that reminiscent of Zidane aesthetically - he's far pacier, more nippy, more explosive you may argue. Zidane was graceful, cerebral, incredibly smart. I'm thinking hafnia just threw Zidane's name out to highlight how absurd he feels the Drogba-Lukaku comparisons are (as Zidane is the pinnacle for any midfielder of the last two decades), but he actually does the opposite because it's a very reasonable debate when compared to Barkley-Zidane - both in terms of quality and style. He just undermines his own point by saying something as extreme as that. Please don't take the above as criticism of Everton players - it isn't intended as that. It's just that we're talking about Zinedine Zidane here. I realise this post has been a bit pedantic, but when I saw hafnia say that and then Matt state that there's no reason that Barkley can't be as good as Zidane, or better, I couldn't believe my eyes. There's plenty of reasons, the main one being that Zidane is one of the greatest players of all time. I havent got a crystal ball, so I cant see into the future Ok, maybe a little carried away but the lad is 19, impressing in his debut season in one of (arguably the) best leagues in the world, and has massive potential so who knows where he will end up. I didnt see Zidane as a 19yr old, I saw him with Madrid (with very vague memories of him at Juve) when he was nearly 30, so I cant compare. Anyway, we can hope cant we? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 You're two of my favourite posters here, and I agree with the general point you're both making (that these boys are raw and need time to develop and become truly top players). Matt is also correct that Drogba was a late bloomer. But there's something very perplexing going on here too. First, there's the implication that Lukaku has a long way to go to be as good as Drogba, and this point is argued by comparing Barkley to Zidane. This is flawed logic because Lukaku is actually better than Drogba was at 20, and it's very realistic that he may go on to surpass Drogba's achievements in the game, and be considered a better player - not guaranteed, but it's a possibility. On the other hand, Barkley will never ever be fit to lace Zidane's boots: I don't mean that as a slight on Barkley, he's a very exciting young talent and has a chance of being a very top player, but we're talking about Zinedine Zidane here - he's considered the best player of his generation alongside Ronaldo and many people consider him a top ten player of all-time. Barkley won't ever be that good, or anywhere near it. He might become world-class but Zidane is all-time great class. Zidane belongs to a tier which none of Drogba, Lukaku or Barkley will ever get near. There's also the other issue that Lukaku is similar to a young Drogba and will probably develop his game to the point where he will closely emulate Drogba's style. Barkley on the other hand isn't really that reminiscent of Zidane aesthetically - he's far pacier, more nippy, more explosive you may argue. Zidane was graceful, cerebral, incredibly smart. I'm thinking hafnia just threw Zidane's name out to highlight how absurd he feels the Drogba-Lukaku comparisons are (as Zidane is the pinnacle for any midfielder of the last two decades), but he actually does the opposite because it's a very reasonable debate when compared to Barkley-Zidane - both in terms of quality and style. He just undermines his own point by saying something as extreme as that. Please don't take the above as criticism of Everton players - it isn't intended as that. It's just that we're talking about Zinedine Zidane here. I realise this post has been a bit pedantic, but when I saw hafnia say that and then Matt state that there's no reason that Barkley can't be as good as Zidane, or better, I couldn't believe my eyes. There's plenty of reasons, the main one being that Zidane is one of the greatest players of all time. My barkley/zidane comparison is that I don't think i've seen such a big lad with such balance and vision since Zizou.... will he reach zidance heights??? Unlikely - zizou won everything and scored crucial goals in major finals, Barkley is english so will therefore struggle playing alongside chalatans like Cleverley and having to contend with our press trying to destroy him. Barkley does have the potential to be the best technical midfielder England have had since Scholes and that for me is an outstanding plaudit - given how highly zizou himself rated scholes. I guess the only way you can appraise my ambitious statement is to compare a 19 year old zidane to a 19 year old barkley. But just to make it clear, Zidane is one of the best players ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted December 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2517376/Jose-Mourinho-hits-Romelu-Lukaku-Ill-decides-future-lies.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 Keep it up, Mourinho! It's good to see your man-management skills at work. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 Mou is such a cancer. His best young prospect is lukaku and he's treating him like this? I bet he'll call him back at the end of the year and make him sit on the bench to suffer all next season just like he did to kaka. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thoward18 Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 Mourinho is such an egotistical douche. He has nothing to gain from a media battle with Lukaku, yet he's doing it just because he can't handle the thought of swallowing his pride. He'll sacrifice his relationship with arguably Chelsea's top young player as long as he gets to be "right." Sibdane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 He finished second in the Golden Boy award to Paul Pogba. It's an award for the best young player in Europe and is voted on by 30 media outlets in 30 countries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted December 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 http://soccerlens.com/chelseas-romelu-lukaku-targeted-by-barcelona-reports-spanish-press/121563/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 shit off :shaking fist: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jofanon Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 Them fighting can only be good for us. Stick your arm around him Bob and tell him he's best off at Everton not those nasty Chelski's. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 The problem is Chelsea can afford not to sell him... give him a bit of punishment in the reserves etc and Mourinho's ego would do that. Romey 1878 and Sibdane 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingsRoadBlue Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 If Jose lets him go because of something as stupid as has been going on in the media lately I'll never forgive him. Sibdane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 Whatever happens we won't be signing him, look at Salgado at spurs £27 mill. Lukaku has two years left in his contract, when he goes back to Chelsea he can whittle his contract away and sign on a free/ tribunal or Chelsea will sell him to the highest bidder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nikica Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 Matt and hafnia - fair play guys. It is remiss of me to judge - after all, if you can't get carried away with a local teenage lad starting for the team, who can you get carried away with? Back on topic - Lukaku does have to polish his game but he's scoring goals freely and has been for a while (all his career, actually). You'd imagine that once that raw ability is translated into more experience, technique and intelligence, he will be almost the complete striker. Fancy him to do well tonight, especially if up against Smalling. Although i'd imagine Vidic will be the main marker as he's a powerhouse himself. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted December 9, 2013 Report Share Posted December 9, 2013 I could see this coming off! Watching Lukaku in recent weeks you can see that although he is a beast as a solo player, he isnt really up to a top four player as a team player. His passing is awful, his decision making is poor and his control is... well he has none. Is this the type of player that will fit into a Chelsea team? i dont think so. but i think with the way we play he fits! Chelsea have the money to buy a ready made player to fit straight into thier team, where we dont have that luxury and need to spend time progressing players to the level we need them to be. The last few games he has looked very poor, but you simply cannot take him of as you know how explosive he can be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Guest Nikica Posted December 9, 2013 Popular Post Report Share Posted December 9, 2013 (edited) I could see this coming off! Watching Lukaku in recent weeks you can see that although he is a beast as a solo player, he isnt really up to a top four player as a team player. His passing is awful, his decision making is poor and his control is... well he has none. Is this the type of player that will fit into a Chelsea team? i dont think so. but i think with the way we play he fits! Chelsea have the money to buy a ready made player to fit straight into thier team, where we dont have that luxury and need to spend time progressing players to the level we need them to be. The last few games he has looked very poor, but you simply cannot take him of as you know how explosive he can be. I see that as more of a rawness than his actual ability - at times his touch looks lovely, but it's very inconsistent. His game needs polish imo, rather than him simply lacking as a footballer. Let's not forget that this guy is still only twenty. They are reasonable concerns, though. The fact that he scores goals while sometimes playing garbage shows how truly frightening his potential is if the complete package comes together. Edited December 9, 2013 by Nikica Matt, Romey 1878, Lowensda and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted December 9, 2013 Report Share Posted December 9, 2013 Agree. If he can turn that raw potential into anything consistent he could be awesome. I almost hope he stays inconsistent this season and makes Chelsea consider letting him go haha! I can only dream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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