Bailey Posted March 4, 2014 Report Share Posted March 4, 2014 Europa League qualification would be good for the players. They'd get the shock of their lives if we qualified for the CL without having tasted much, if any, European opposition. Also, it would boost our profile around Europe meaning we could attract better players that could push us into the CL spots the season after. Plus, just being in European competition will make a better calibre of player want to sign for us. Progression and education. Can't understand why anyone would be against us qualifying. Absolutely spot on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted March 4, 2014 Report Share Posted March 4, 2014 I think it is extremely short sighted for Any Evertonian to not want to be in the Europa League Apart from anything else if we were to take the competition seriously it would represent our best chance of silverware We aren't going to win the League , the FA Cup is dominated by the top 4 and we might as well not bother entering a side in the League Cup Matt, Sibdane and Romey 1878 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted March 4, 2014 Report Share Posted March 4, 2014 I think it is extremely short sighted for Any Evertonian to not want to be in the Europa League Apart from anything else if we were to take the competition seriously it would represent our best chance of silverware We aren't going to win the League , the FA Cup is dominated by the top 4 and we might as well not bother entering a side in the League Cup Fulham made it the final a couple of years ago and lost to Juventus. We beat Juventus in pre-season. Need I say more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brett Angel Posted March 4, 2014 Report Share Posted March 4, 2014 Is it right that the Europa winners next season qualify for the champions league the year after? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted March 4, 2014 Report Share Posted March 4, 2014 Yes Brett. I'm all for Europa, I think it will raise the profile of the club get the lads used to European campaigns and give us some more cash. I think getting more depth and giving more youngsters a chance will all be good things. Win win for me and hopefully we could win an get champs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brett Angel Posted March 4, 2014 Report Share Posted March 4, 2014 We even get a chance to beat the shite in Europe when they fall miserably out if the CL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted March 4, 2014 Report Share Posted March 4, 2014 I don't get the getting the lads used to Europe 95% of the squad have played European football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brett Angel Posted March 4, 2014 Report Share Posted March 4, 2014 Not for everton they havnt.... It's gonna be a totally different experience taking everton back into Europe....am getting excited thinking about it. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted March 4, 2014 Report Share Posted March 4, 2014 Not for everton they havnt.... It's gonna be a totally different experience taking everton back into Europe....am getting excited thinking about it. Great point, I'm getting excited as well, we just have to keep Man U off our backs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearso Posted March 4, 2014 Report Share Posted March 4, 2014 I think the problem with sitting back and resting on our laurels in terms of wanting to play in Europe until our squad is big enough, is each year that passes the gap between us and the top 4 gets bigger in bigger in terms of finances and quality of squads. We are at the ceiling of mid-table clubs, the only way we can break into that top echelon to expand the depth and quality of our squad is tapping into the financial goldmine of Europe. No point waiting around until Martinez has his own compiled squad of decent players, as it's just going to get harder and harder to catch those above us with each season that passes. Look at Liverpool, they've had a stellar season thus far riding on the back of the form of Suarez, Sturridge and Coutinho. You could argue that as a whole we have a more complete and better squad, but imagine how they'll strengthen after they get the increased funds of Champions league football lining their pockets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted March 4, 2014 Report Share Posted March 4, 2014 I think the problem with sitting back and resting on our laurels in terms of wanting to play in Europe until our squad is big enough, is each year that passes the gap between us and the top 4 gets bigger in bigger in terms of finances and quality of squads. We are at the ceiling of mid-table clubs, the only way we can break into that top echelon to expand the depth and quality of our squad is tapping into the financial goldmine of Europe. No point waiting around until Martinez has his own compiled squad of decent players, as it's just going to get harder and harder to catch those above us with each season that passes. Look at Liverpool, they've had a stellar season thus far riding on the back of the form of Suarez, Sturridge and Coutinho. You could argue that as a whole we have a more complete and better squad, but imagine how they'll strengthen after they get the increased funds of Champions league football lining their pockets. The key words being "champions league" not "Europa" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 The key words being "champions league" not "Europa" Very True. If you look on the bright side, what if they get knocked out immediately then they don't make that much. if we continue to progress in europa each gate receipt is money we didn't have. plus a liverpool squad that has to play FA cup, league cup, prem league, and champs league will be stretched thin. Suarez and Sturridge can't play every match, and their bench doesn't wow me. In addition they just reported some very large operating losses, so FFP will be coming in to play soon as well. So although we will be stretched thin, I think they will just as equally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearso Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 Very True. If you look on the bright side, what if they get knocked out immediately then they don't make that much. if we continue to progress in europa each gate receipt is money we didn't have. plus a liverpool squad that has to play FA cup, league cup, prem league, and champs league will be stretched thin. Suarez and Sturridge can't play every match, and their bench doesn't wow me. In addition they just reported some very large operating losses, so FFP will be coming in to play soon as well. So although we will be stretched thin, I think they will just as equally. All valid points, but the specific example of Liverpool isn't exactly what I was referring to. It's more the idea that each season the top 4 clubs qualify for Champions League it's widening the gap between us and them due to the incoming funds strengthening their squads over ours. You're right Miguel in that Europa and Champions League have much greater implications in terms of financial reward, but we'd be more immune to the widening of the gap between us and the top teams if we are playing deep into the Europa league and earning prize money, even if it is less than 10m. 6m pounds buys another Mirallas, 2m pounds buys a Gareth Barry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NyarkosLeftToe Posted March 5, 2014 Popular Post Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 What's the point in supporting a team if you don't want to see them progress, Europa League is progression for us seems we haven't played in it since 09/10. I'm gutted we haven't been in Europe for as long as we have, I love European nights at Goodison whether it be against some team from Slovakia/Greece/Norway no ones ever heard of, or when we came back from 2 nil down against Fiorentina and lost on pens. I'll be made up if we qualify for it. The manager can then try and deal with the squad size problems in the summer. Matt, Pearso, Ant1979 and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 (edited) All valid points, but the specific example of Liverpool isn't exactly what I was referring to. It's more the idea that each season the top 4 clubs qualify for Champions League it's widening the gap between us and them due to the incoming funds strengthening their squads over ours. You're right Miguel in that Europa and Champions League have much greater implications in terms of financial reward, but we'd be more immune to the widening of the gap between us and the top teams if we are playing deep into the Europa league and earning prize money, even if it is less than 10m. 6m pounds buys another Mirallas, 2m pounds buys a Gareth Barry. You have to have really good scouts to find players like Mirallas for that money. Players of that pedigree would usually cost £12m+. I think the Europa would be good for the fans etc. However I don't see it taking us to the next level. Financially it's not very fruitful and it can have a major affect on player fatigue (as would the champions league). The difference is financially the champions league allows you to add additional quality to counter fatigue of players. Don't get me wrong I would be happy for a Europa league finish now that we are probably out of the champions league places for good. It just comes down to the inability to go out and spend to progress to the next level. Edited March 5, 2014 by MiguelCotto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted March 20, 2014 Report Share Posted March 20, 2014 hmm.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted March 20, 2014 Report Share Posted March 20, 2014 even when they're doin well they have nothin better to do than talk shit about other teams...bless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted March 20, 2014 Report Share Posted March 20, 2014 cant see the clip, whats it about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ant1979 Posted March 20, 2014 Report Share Posted March 20, 2014 Fat prick. Don't mind banter if it's funny, but that was just shite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ant1979 Posted March 20, 2014 Report Share Posted March 20, 2014 cant see the clip, whats it about? It's that chubby LFC fan who's been on TV a few times doing various impressions, he's doing Martinez now and saying his objective is to win the cup and get relegated, etc, etc... To be fair he's usually pretty good with the voices, he's just not amusing at all though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted March 20, 2014 Report Share Posted March 20, 2014 I thought it was quite funny, accent is spot in! marcus jones 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted March 20, 2014 Report Share Posted March 20, 2014 I thought it was quite funny, accent is spot in! I think it's miles off.....it's just a very poor generic Spanish with none of Roberto's mannerisms; and not remotely funny. In short, pathetic attempt. Sibdane and Ant1979 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted March 20, 2014 Report Share Posted March 20, 2014 Nothing like him. His Gerrard, Alonso,Rogers and Benitez are decent though. Martinez was well off the mark. Ant1979 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcus jones Posted March 20, 2014 Report Share Posted March 20, 2014 I thought it was well funny! I don't care if he took the piss........... so what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brett Angel Posted March 20, 2014 Report Share Posted March 20, 2014 It's Benitez...... That is piss poor mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodisonRoad Posted March 20, 2014 Report Share Posted March 20, 2014 Sounds more like Mata!! he does some of Roberto's manorisms to a tee but the voice is wayyy off! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted March 21, 2014 Report Share Posted March 21, 2014 Sounds more like Mata!! he does some of Roberto's manorisms to a tee but the voice is wayyy off! He doesn't even say, "phenomenal" or "incredible" once as far as I can remember.....goes to show that he's just doing a "comedy" Spanish accent and has done zero research, an observational comedian who doesn't observe? Don't even know why I came back here. Sibdane, GoodisonRoad and MC11 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted March 22, 2014 Report Share Posted March 22, 2014 The Guardian's Michael Cox has written 5 areas where he believes Martinez has improved Everton. http://www.freebets.org.uk/blog/5-ways-everton-have-improved-under-martinez Matt and Sibdane 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted March 22, 2014 Report Share Posted March 22, 2014 The Guardian's Michael Cox has written 5 areas where he believes Martinez has improved Everton.http://www.freebets.org.uk/blog/5-ways-everton-have-improved-under-martinezalso recognizing Moyes' contribution. Not that it will be accepted by some! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted March 22, 2014 Report Share Posted March 22, 2014 The Guardian's Michael Cox has written 5 areas where he believes Martinez has improved Everton. http://www.freebets.org.uk/blog/5-ways-everton-have-improved-under-martinez Good read that. Long may it continue! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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