Elston Gunnn Posted September 9, 2015 Report Share Posted September 9, 2015 yep he's been a centre back. plus he's young, and he doesn't play due to gareth "must play clause" barry and james "faux world beater" mccarthy. I can't remember, but I guess Roberto's the one who first saw in him a DM? In any case, the BiH manager seems also to have moved him permanently to DM. Carefully intending to make no skills-comparison, I'd say positionally he was used in BiH's 2 recent Euro qualifiers as a "Pirlo," deep-lying, play and pass from centre of pitch in front of defenders, pushing forward with controlled dribbling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted September 9, 2015 Report Share Posted September 9, 2015 I can't remember, but I guess Roberto's the one who first saw in him a DM? In any case, the BiH manager seems also to have moved him permanently to DM. Carefully intending to make no skills-comparison, I'd say positionally he was used in BiH's 2 recent Euro qualifiers as a "Pirlo," deep-lying, play and pass from centre of pitch in front of defenders, pushing forward with controlled dribbling. yes and that's exactly what i've said, he's like a poor man's busquets, he can defend and pass and move the ball. we woudln't need 2 sitting DCM's with him. But Barry has to retire first, and Mccarthy has to be sold otherwise he's just redunant for a team not playing CL. New GK COleman Stones Jags Baines Besic Barkley Lennon Gerry Mirallas Lukaku That's what i want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elston Gunnn Posted September 9, 2015 Report Share Posted September 9, 2015 (edited) yes and that's exactly what i've said, he's like a poor man's busquets, he can defend and pass and move the ball. we woudln't need 2 sitting DCM's with him. But Barry has to retire first, and Mccarthy has to be sold otherwise he's just redunant for a team not playing CL. New GK COleman Stones Jags Baines Besic Barkley Lennon Gerry Mirallas Lukaku That's what i want. I'm unwilling just yet to advocate getting rid of either Besic or McCarthy. I'm ok -- this season -- sticking with 3 DCM's in the squad, as long as RM does some rotating, as surely (surely) he will if we last in the League and FA cups awhile. I trust that RM actually, really does intend to "bring Besic along." Ok, then do it, some. I guess RM's attachment to 2 DCMs must be a function of the plan for Coleman and Baines -- both, a lot -- to get forward. Now even under that plan, I'd prefer one DCM, even, heaven forgive me for these words, if that single DCM must very occasionally be Barry. But my preference for a single DCM is itself a function of my (and many others') preference for Barkley to play (full stop) and play middle of the action, not way forward like a 10. As to our missing 10, I wouldn't mind hearing your and others' comments on Deulofeu in that role for this season. I do think Lennon is the better choice RW, as he'll track back much more willingly and effectively than Deulofeu. As for Mirallas tracking back on the left, cross fingers, pray, and cuss. Can Deulofeu be our 10? Is it obviously worth a try? Edited September 9, 2015 by Elston Gunnn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted September 9, 2015 Report Share Posted September 9, 2015 (edited) I'm unwilling just yet to advocate getting rid of either Besic or McCarthy. I'm ok -- this season -- sticking with 3 DCM's in the squad, as long as RM does some rotating, as surely (surely) he will if we last in the League and FA cups awhile. I trust that RM actually, really does intend to "bring Besic along." Ok, then do it, some. I guess RM's attachment to 2 DCMs must be a function of the plan for Coleman and Baines -- both, a lot -- to get forward. Now even under that plan, I'd prefer one DCM, even, heaven forgive me for these words, if that single DCM must very occasionally be Barry. But my preference for a single DCM is itself a function of my (and many others') preference for Barkley to play (full stop) and play middle of the action, not way forward like a 10. As to our missing 10, I wouldn't mind hearing your and others' comments on Deulofeu in that role for this season. I do think Lennon is the better choice RW, as he'll track back much more willingly and effectively than Deulofeu. As for Mirallas tracking back on the left, cross fingers, pray, and cuss. Can Deulofeu be our 10? Is it obviously worth a try? arsenal's fullbacks attack and they play 451, with one holding mid arteta/coquelin who is also a playmaker. this whole 2 DCM thing is a myth. same with Man city, Fernandinho is the only DCM, yaya doesn't defend he's box to box like ross would be in the lineup i put above. Edited September 9, 2015 by markjazzbassist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted September 10, 2015 Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 yes and that's exactly what i've said, he's like a poor man's busquets, he can defend and pass and move the ball. we woudln't need 2 sitting DCM's with him. But Barry has to retire first, and Mccarthy has to be sold otherwise he's just redunant for a team not playing CL. New GK COleman Stones Jags Baines Besic Barkley Lennon Gerry Mirallas Lukaku That's what i want. Barkley with Besic? would be exciting, we'd need to score five to win the game, but exciting non the less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/mo-besic-injury-midfielder-targets-10359104 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 On against Ireland at half time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 On against Ireland at half time. Fingers crossed he lasts the half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 Fingers crossed he lasts the half. Got through it, didn't really affect the game in my opinion. Bosnia were 1-0 down, it ended 2-0 but nothing of any real note for Besic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted November 22, 2015 Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 He got another 60 minutes under his belt for the U21s today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted November 22, 2015 Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 Great news I want to see more of him this year. Slot in for McCarthy some or Barry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted November 22, 2015 Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 I think he is going to be a top player. Barry replacement all day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 I think he is going to be a top player. Barry replacement all day I would love to see him get more time in Barryj position this year and slowly make the transition. He can pass, tackle, dribble and isn't scared of shooting either....just needs time and discipline. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 will be a high level DM when he gets it all right in his head. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/muhamed-besic-i-cant-afford-10515113 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 https://twitter.com/angrybosnianfan/status/684851751950749697 Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 You know I said we needed that person on the pitch who gets at the players - doesn't suffer fools, doesn't respect reputations and wil say it as it is.... the sounness, keane, viera, adams this is the man. Awesome last night, his warrior mentality gives us an identity. brittoncarl 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 I've said from the start that he'd be a big player for us. I hope last night has shown Martinez that he can trust him. Him and McCarthy together are going to run things for us once Barry's legs inevitably give up. markjazzbassist, Matt and Lowensda 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 Am i officially getting old but don't these two look like they're in PE at school? Matt and brittoncarl 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlbanyNYToffee Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 Vaulting up the charts for me in terms of favorite players. Last 10 years: 1. Cahill (reason i became an everton fan) 2. Jags 3. Besic 4. Stracq 5. Rom 6. Hibbert 7. Baines 8. Fellaini 9. Neville Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 He has bollocks. Just what this team needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 He has bollocks. Just what this team needs. And you've tickled them. With your beard. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 If he carries on kicking the other useless cunts up the arse I'll tickle them with whatever he wants!! Lowensda, Matt and Romey 1878 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 yep i've loved him since he came here, was mad he got injured just the player we need. glad he's taken the chance and proven himself. tom clev will be a squad player now. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 I fucking love the way he plays. Officially my favourite player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10153164533491277&id=56909226276&_rdr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 https://twitter.com/patto1878/status/684880598964531200 Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 https://twitter.com/ssn401/status/685031761764564993 Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10153164533491277&id=56909226276&_rdr Love the first comment under that, "..may want to check his pockets for silva and toure.." . Matt and Romey 1878 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
efc1111 Posted January 8, 2016 Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 The "cultured scrapper who could turn out to be an Everton gem": http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2016/jan/07/muhamed-besic-srapper-everton-gem-roberto-martinez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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